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Beacool

(30,251 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:22 PM Feb 2016

Why Electing Hillary in ’16 Is More Important Than Electing Obama in ’08

By Jon Favreau
2/26/16

A former Obama ’08 speechwriter explains how and why Secretary Clinton is a lot more compelling than you might think.

I hear you’re still not Ready for Hillary.

I get it. I didn’t start off as her biggest fan either. During the 2008 campaign, I wrote plenty of less-than-complimentary words about Hillary Clinton in my role as Barack Obama’s speechwriter. Then, a few weeks after the election, I had a well-documented run-in with a piece of cardboard that bore a striking resemblance to the incoming Secretary of State.

It was one of the stupider, more disrespectful mistakes I’ve made, and one that could have cost me a job if Hillary hadn’t accepted my apology, which she did with grace and humor. As a result, I had the chance to serve in the Obama administration with someone who was far different than the caricature I had helped perpetuate.

The most famous woman in the world would walk through the White House with no entourage, casually chatting up junior staffers along the way. She was by far the most prepared, impressive person at every Cabinet meeting. She worked harder and logged more miles than anyone in the administration, including the president. And she’d spend large amounts of time and energy on things that offered no discernible benefit to her political future—saving elephants from ivory poachers, listening to the plight of female coffee farmers in Timor-Leste, defending LGBT rights in places like Uganda.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/26/why-electing-hillary-in-16-is-more-important-than-electing-obama-in-08.html

This is what Favreau is referring to when he mentioned his disrespectful mistake.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-favreau.html

The Hillary he describes is the Hillary that I know. The Hillary depicted by conservatives, the Left (many right here on DU) and the media is a caricature of the real person.



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Why Electing Hillary in ’16 Is More Important Than Electing Obama in ’08 (Original Post) Beacool Feb 2016 OP
DU rec! MaggieD Feb 2016 #1
Yup. Control-Z Feb 2016 #4
Send them back RobertEarl Feb 2016 #2
The issue was that these children were being sent alone and many didn't even have family here. Beacool Feb 2016 #7
These are poor homeless kids RobertEarl Feb 2016 #9
Another issue RobertEarl Feb 2016 #11
Those are children.. FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #12
Blood on their hands RobertEarl Feb 2016 #15
Gee, this is the third or fourth time this condescending piece of twaddle has shown up - djean111 Feb 2016 #3
Hillary will be the nominee, and hopefully president. Beacool Feb 2016 #6
And I should ignore how much I hate Hillary's stancers on war and fracking and cluster bombs djean111 Feb 2016 #8
Now, now--You're must succumb to these planted fluff pieces CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #30
I find that I must stick to my principles. Sigh. djean111 Feb 2016 #31
I don't think you're trying hard enough CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #35
Bwah! Thank you for the smile! djean111 Feb 2016 #36
I don't give a fig what you do. Beacool Feb 2016 #38
Everything I've read about HRC indicates CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #27
Don't believe everything you read. Beacool Feb 2016 #39
Consider the alternative connecticut yankee Feb 2016 #28
Sounds like he'll be the President because CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #32
A little too soon for that boogeyman, doncha think? djean111 Feb 2016 #34
they just keep puting it up after it sinks. the desperation is dripping from them now. litlbilly Feb 2016 #21
nothing was more important than electing Obama in 2008 IMHO roguevalley Feb 2016 #5
I know. How is this not a slap in the face for those of us who voted for him? nt artislife Feb 2016 #18
it isn't and supposing intent for another person from their roguevalley Feb 2016 #42
I think that he's saying that because we now have to contend with a Republican majority Beacool Feb 2016 #41
Oh boy, the puff piece from one of Chelsea's subsidiary companies is linked again BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #10
If I had ever witnessed ymetca Feb 2016 #13
Hillary IS a great leader. Beacool Feb 2016 #14
I wouldn't follow her out of a fire. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #25
A caring warmonger and corporate sellout. Yep. She's a walking Hallmark card. (nt) CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #33
OMG INdemo Feb 2016 #16
OMG INdemo Feb 2016 #17
Bull, but you're entitled to your opinion. Beacool Feb 2016 #40
Is this from cha or Steven Leser? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #19
I didn't see a reason. Was it that she is oh so hard-working? reformist2 Feb 2016 #20
Third time this has been posted UglyGreed Feb 2016 #22
so now she is the uber-obama? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #23
She lies. She thinks rules are for other people. She is for the 1%, not the rest of us. peacebird Feb 2016 #24
This belongs in the Hillary group forum Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #26
Why DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #29
They've built her up into this mythical thing that doesn't resemble reality. So weird and sad. nt BreakfastClub Feb 2016 #37
Very important for the 1% eridani Feb 2016 #43
I care about that wingnut's opinion... sendero Feb 2016 #44
She's terrific! RiverLover Feb 2016 #45
agree 100% Mary Mac Apr 2016 #46
Thanks, I almost forgot about this OP. Beacool Apr 2016 #47
he has a new one in daily beast Mary Mac Apr 2016 #48
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Send them back
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:24 PM
Feb 2016

That's what H said about the poor homeless children who came to the US seeking a future.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
7. The issue was that these children were being sent alone and many didn't even have family here.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

Do you think that any country is going to encourage another country to send their kids unattended??????

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. These are poor homeless kids
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

And you want to tell them we can't take care of them?

AFAIK the US supplied weapons for the war they were trying to get away from.

And you abandon them? I just HATE hearing any Democrat even go there. Sickening.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. Another issue
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

H voted to drop bombs on and invade Iraq killing untold numbers of children

Send her back..... send Hillary back. Make her go away, please!

 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
12. Those are children..
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

fleeing Honduras due to the illegal coup that took place in 2009. The same illegal coup that Hillary's state department aided. Femicide has doubled since the coup.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/22/1488999/-Honduran-Fascism-and-the-Clinton-Connection

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. Blood on their hands
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

No wonder Bernie about blew a fuse when she stood there and defended the idea we can't take care of homeless child refugees we helped make homeless.

And then we read excuses for it on DU! Sickening!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Gee, this is the third or fourth time this condescending piece of twaddle has shown up -
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:24 PM
Feb 2016

is it replicating or something?
Oh, and nope.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
6. Hillary will be the nominee, and hopefully president.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:28 PM
Feb 2016

Favreau was not her supporter in 2008, he wrote his opinion and observations after getting to know her. Pity that you disregard him right off the bat.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. And I should ignore how much I hate Hillary's stancers on war and fracking and cluster bombs
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

and the TPP and increased H-1B visas, to name just a few things? Pity you think I would ignore those issues because of a puff piece.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. Now, now--You're must succumb to these planted fluff pieces
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016

Are you even trying to think positive?!

Once you get beyond HRC's warmongering, endless lying and the fact that she has sold our democracy to Wall Street--she really is a very sweet humanitarian with a beautiful heart.

It's' a shame that you're so closed minded.

When HRC isn't plotting murderous wars for profit or taking "donations" from powerful Wall Street sociopaths, you can find her knitting sweaters for homeless kitties or making crafts out of seashells.


Beacool

(30,251 posts)
38. I don't give a fig what you do.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

I'm just stating that Hillary will win the nomination. What you do is up to you.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
27. Everything I've read about HRC indicates
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

that she's much, much worse in person.

I get it. The flacks are currently in overdrive--because beyond Hillary's little bubble of support--is intense lack of support for her. Ranging from those on the left, who detest her policies and her dishonesty--to those on the right who believe she's the ant-Christ. It's no wonder that these fluffy flack pieces are happening now.

It's a tough sell--convincing the public that a warmongering neocon and corrupt, corporate sellout is actually sugar and spice and everything nice.

No one is buying this nonsense.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
32. Sounds like he'll be the President because
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:47 PM
Feb 2016

she'll have a depressing effect on Dem turnout; and her 52 percent negatives/untrustworthiness are a recipe for disaster.

Her lack of cross-over appeal and her inability to attract Independents doesn't help either.

Why do you think so many of us have been clamoring for Bernie? She has no pathway to the nomination. Her negatives are too high and she cannot bring together a big enough coalition to win.

It's frightening.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
34. A little too soon for that boogeyman, doncha think?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

Pledge-y thing iteration 750 or so. Gets tiresome, has no effect but irritation.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
42. it isn't and supposing intent for another person from their
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

very pointed post doesn't cut it. No matter how it turned out to be, NOTHING was more important than putting Obama in the White House. NOTHING. IMHO of course.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
41. I think that he's saying that because we now have to contend with a Republican majority
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

in Congress and the Tea Party. In 2008, Congress was still in the hands of Democrats. This year there's an urgency to not let the WH fall into Republican hands.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
10. Oh boy, the puff piece from one of Chelsea's subsidiary companies is linked again
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

Great stuff. I'm sure Chelsea being on the Board of Directors of IAC which owns the Daily Beast has no influence on their coverage of Hillary.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
13. If I had ever witnessed
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

a single instance of HRC standing for something other than her own self-aggrandizement, I might for a moment consider this post to be something other than low propaganda it is.

"She shows up early, stays late and pretends to care". Great employee, I guess. Not a leader, however.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
14. Hillary IS a great leader.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

And she does care. That you don't care for her, is a different issue.


hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
25. I wouldn't follow her out of a fire.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:07 PM
Feb 2016

I'd be looking for an alternate exit that didn't have a paybox on it.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
17. OMG
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016

Give us a Break

Next you are going to tell us Hillary is the John F. Kennedy of 2016

Give it up Hillary supporters Hillary Clinton is neither a liberal or a progressive
She is a far right Corporatist.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
24. She lies. She thinks rules are for other people. She is for the 1%, not the rest of us.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

She is a corporatist neocon warhawk.

And if she is the Dem nominee, she will lose. At qhich point, remember to blame Debbie And the DNC.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
26. This belongs in the Hillary group forum
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

I want to say more, but I'm afraid it'll be almost as offensive as this OP, so I'll refrain.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
29. Why
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

why does Obama have to be torn down at the expense of Hillary? You are getting support from those who supported Obama OVER Clinton in 2008. Is there a desire to say "hillary wuz greater than obama" before she gets into office?

eridani

(51,907 posts)
43. Very important for the 1%
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:24 AM
Feb 2016

Who else will make sure that banksters emerge unscathed from the next crash?

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