2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Electing Hillary in ’16 Is More Important Than Electing Obama in ’08
By Jon Favreau
2/26/16
A former Obama 08 speechwriter explains how and why Secretary Clinton is a lot more compelling than you might think.
I hear youre still not Ready for Hillary.
I get it. I didnt start off as her biggest fan either. During the 2008 campaign, I wrote plenty of less-than-complimentary words about Hillary Clinton in my role as Barack Obamas speechwriter. Then, a few weeks after the election, I had a well-documented run-in with a piece of cardboard that bore a striking resemblance to the incoming Secretary of State.
It was one of the stupider, more disrespectful mistakes Ive made, and one that could have cost me a job if Hillary hadnt accepted my apology, which she did with grace and humor. As a result, I had the chance to serve in the Obama administration with someone who was far different than the caricature I had helped perpetuate.
The most famous woman in the world would walk through the White House with no entourage, casually chatting up junior staffers along the way. She was by far the most prepared, impressive person at every Cabinet meeting. She worked harder and logged more miles than anyone in the administration, including the president. And shed spend large amounts of time and energy on things that offered no discernible benefit to her political futuresaving elephants from ivory poachers, listening to the plight of female coffee farmers in Timor-Leste, defending LGBT rights in places like Uganda.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/26/why-electing-hillary-in-16-is-more-important-than-electing-obama-in-08.html
This is what Favreau is referring to when he mentioned his disrespectful mistake.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-favreau.html
The Hillary he describes is the Hillary that I know. The Hillary depicted by conservatives, the Left (many right here on DU) and the media is a caricature of the real person.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)K&R
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)That's what H said about the poor homeless children who came to the US seeking a future.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Do you think that any country is going to encourage another country to send their kids unattended??????
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)And you want to tell them we can't take care of them?
AFAIK the US supplied weapons for the war they were trying to get away from.
And you abandon them? I just HATE hearing any Democrat even go there. Sickening.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)H voted to drop bombs on and invade Iraq killing untold numbers of children
Send her back..... send Hillary back. Make her go away, please!
FangedNoumenom
(145 posts)fleeing Honduras due to the illegal coup that took place in 2009. The same illegal coup that Hillary's state department aided. Femicide has doubled since the coup.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/22/1488999/-Honduran-Fascism-and-the-Clinton-Connection
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)No wonder Bernie about blew a fuse when she stood there and defended the idea we can't take care of homeless child refugees we helped make homeless.
And then we read excuses for it on DU! Sickening!
djean111
(14,255 posts)is it replicating or something?
Oh, and nope.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Favreau was not her supporter in 2008, he wrote his opinion and observations after getting to know her. Pity that you disregard him right off the bat.
djean111
(14,255 posts)and the TPP and increased H-1B visas, to name just a few things? Pity you think I would ignore those issues because of a puff piece.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Are you even trying to think positive?!
Once you get beyond HRC's warmongering, endless lying and the fact that she has sold our democracy to Wall Street--she really is a very sweet humanitarian with a beautiful heart.
It's' a shame that you're so closed minded.
When HRC isn't plotting murderous wars for profit or taking "donations" from powerful Wall Street sociopaths, you can find her knitting sweaters for homeless kitties or making crafts out of seashells.
djean111
(14,255 posts)And I am unrepentant.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)How 'bout now?
djean111
(14,255 posts)Full disclosure - never going to try. Goes against the grain.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)I'm just stating that Hillary will win the nomination. What you do is up to you.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)that she's much, much worse in person.
I get it. The flacks are currently in overdrive--because beyond Hillary's little bubble of support--is intense lack of support for her. Ranging from those on the left, who detest her policies and her dishonesty--to those on the right who believe she's the ant-Christ. It's no wonder that these fluffy flack pieces are happening now.
It's a tough sell--convincing the public that a warmongering neocon and corrupt, corporate sellout is actually sugar and spice and everything nice.
No one is buying this nonsense.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Besides, it sounds like you've never met her.
connecticut yankee
(1,728 posts)How does "President Trump" sound?
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)she'll have a depressing effect on Dem turnout; and her 52 percent negatives/untrustworthiness are a recipe for disaster.
Her lack of cross-over appeal and her inability to attract Independents doesn't help either.
Why do you think so many of us have been clamoring for Bernie? She has no pathway to the nomination. Her negatives are too high and she cannot bring together a big enough coalition to win.
It's frightening.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Pledge-y thing iteration 750 or so. Gets tiresome, has no effect but irritation.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)very pointed post doesn't cut it. No matter how it turned out to be, NOTHING was more important than putting Obama in the White House. NOTHING. IMHO of course.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)in Congress and the Tea Party. In 2008, Congress was still in the hands of Democrats. This year there's an urgency to not let the WH fall into Republican hands.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Great stuff. I'm sure Chelsea being on the Board of Directors of IAC which owns the Daily Beast has no influence on their coverage of Hillary.
ymetca
(1,182 posts)a single instance of HRC standing for something other than her own self-aggrandizement, I might for a moment consider this post to be something other than low propaganda it is.
"She shows up early, stays late and pretends to care". Great employee, I guess. Not a leader, however.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)And she does care. That you don't care for her, is a different issue.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I'd be looking for an alternate exit that didn't have a paybox on it.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Give us a Break
Give us a Break
Next you are going to tell us Hillary is the John F. Kennedy of 2016
Give it up Hillary supporters Hillary Clinton is neither a liberal or a progressive
She is a far right Corporatist.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Why do so many democrats hate liberals?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)She is a corporatist neocon warhawk.
And if she is the Dem nominee, she will lose. At qhich point, remember to blame Debbie And the DNC.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)I want to say more, but I'm afraid it'll be almost as offensive as this OP, so I'll refrain.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)why does Obama have to be torn down at the expense of Hillary? You are getting support from those who supported Obama OVER Clinton in 2008. Is there a desire to say "hillary wuz greater than obama" before she gets into office?
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Who else will make sure that banksters emerge unscathed from the next crash?
sendero
(28,552 posts)... now? Not on your life.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)really.
Mary Mac
(323 posts)Bump.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Mary Mac
(323 posts)Nt.