2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWaPo: Why black voters remain in Hillary Clinton’s corner
Clinton participates in a Breaking Down Barriers town hall campaign event at Morris College in Sumter, S.C., on Feb. 24
Jonathan Capehart - February 25 at 9:07 PM
There are three reasons Clintons firewall of black voters wont #feelthebern in South Carolina and beyond.
First, Obama. His approval rating among African Americans is 89 percent in the latest Gallup tracking poll. This explains why Clinton has left no daylight between herself and the man who bested her in 2008 and for whom she worked as secretary of state. And it explains why she highlights the many times that Sanders argued for a primary challenge to Obama in 2012.
Second, Clinton doesnt shy away from race. Sanders talks about race, too, of course. But he seems to do so at a remove, and his attempts to make a convincing link between his economic message and race continue to fall short.
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The third reason is perhaps the most important, because of how deeply it resonates with African Americans: Clinton openly talks about the necessary role that whites must play in healing and bridging the racial divide.
Ending systemic racism requires contributions from all of us, especially those of us who havent experienced it ourselves, she said in Harlem. White Americans need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers that you face every day. We need to recognize our privilege and practice humility, rather than assume that our experiences are everyones experiences.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-black-voters-remain-in-hillary-clintons-corner/2016/02/25/7a86100a-da7d-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)We tried to tell him back in May . . .
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)After Barack won the nom he and Hillary decided they were going to work together and they did. Bernie on the other hand decided he was going never going to give Barack a break and he didn't. No appointment satisfied him, no speech was sufficient, no policy was good enough or even good, nothing Obama did earned anything but indifference or in the last couple of years ferocious rebuke. So that's what we're starting with and it appears that's what we're ending with.
A lot of Bernie supporters think AA just starting paying attention to politics recently. I have no clue why they think that, but they do. They think none of them saw Bernie diss Obama and Dems for years. They think they didn't notice Bernie calling for a primary on the first black president.
It's amazing to me that they seem to think only white people pay attention to politics, and that AA voters are somehow not politically sophisticated. Makes me shake my head.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)policies.
Obama himself said we should hold his feet to the fire. Many of us did for whatever (non) effect it had.
No leader should be untouchable as far as criticisms on policy is concerned. No one.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)The one that never happened?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)to haunt a person eh?
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)didn't work in Vegas.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I just knew it smelled like hog lagoon but paid no attention to the farmer.
jillan
(39,451 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Plus, he's simply tone deaf about racial issues, as Brave's excellent article at Dkos today points out. IMO.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)When members of the AA community learn about him, he is seen favorably by about the same percentage as see Hillary favorably. (See http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511149130 )
Of course that doesn't necessarily yield a vote. Someone who likes both of them can still only vote for one.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Newsflash NO ONE give a shit was he has to say! He is a joke.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Yes he is very handsome but he is a joke.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)No conceivable comparison in fact.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Enjoy
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)But I suppose that is JMHO, YMMV.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Seriously there is no more room under the bus. It's full down there.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)kiss up to Bernie = he's a bad reporter suddenly. I wonder if people always felt that way...
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Iggy for Jonathan!
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CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts).
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)anything that could be referred to as "identity" politics. For all her faults, Hillary has not.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)You might say she boldly goes where no man has gone before.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)FangedNoumenom
(145 posts)while collecting money from the largest gun retailer in the country. Interesting.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)in an encounter where she seemed to put more of the onus for that on the AA community. See:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/18/clinton-tells-black-lives-matter-activists-to-focus-on-ways-to-change-policy-not-change-hearts/
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)... the "Bernie is the second coming of MLK" meme that his supporters like to float.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...I did miss the disclaimer of which SuperPAC paid for the advertisement of his endorsement, however. I thought that was required.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)That's what opinion writers do -- write about their opinions.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Which may be more of an indictment of cable news, but does not give him bonus marks in journalistic integrity.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Van Jones is not impartial. Thom Hartman is not impartial. Bill Press is not impartial. I could go on and on. Why do you have different standards for this guy? Because he supports Hillary?
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)but it cleared up in a few days.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)An opinion writer should research and weigh both sides of an issue and then offer his/her opinion. I've never had the sense Capeheart does that. He could learn from Eugene Robinson, who has earned my respect and then some.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)and writes about politics and social issues for the PostPartisan blog." And just for the record, this is a regular WaPo opinion piece, not a bolg post, and there is no such disclaimer.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)They will BERN the bern down!
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I think SuperTuesday is going to close the deal so here's hoping Dem voters make it happen!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Followed by a trail of even more victories in huge states like Texas will open the eyes of many people across the country as to who is a viable candidate and who isn't.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... in the primaries. Case closed!
Impedimentus
(898 posts)they ask Capehart to make something up.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)kingCowan
(25 posts)Jonathan Capehart? he's still writing? I thought the WaPo fired him for the whole photogate nonsense.
thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)Yes, she's currently wrapping herself in his legacy, but you don't have to look very hard to find points of departure, either. Like support for a Syrian no-fly zone. Or that (in)famous quote...
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)BostonBob
(18 posts)Hillary and her financial backers are the payday lenders of American politics. They act like they are trying to help struggling workers but only want to screw them over. It is sad that people continue to trust these con artists.
William769
(55,147 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Seems like the natural choice since he's already on the job.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)Although I think Brock might get an even bigger position.
oasis
(49,407 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The man who lied about Danny Lyon, Bernie, those photos and all of that?