2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTIME Magazine Now Falsely Claiming Bernie HIMSELF Yelled "English Only!!"....
The LIE that wouldn't Die...
http://www.mediaite.com/online/time-magazine-now-falsely-claiming-bernie-sanders-himself-yelled-english-only/
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Who buys Time mag anymore. Better used as toilet paper.
Segami
(14,923 posts)oasis
(49,389 posts)of proportion. Maybe Bernie should have personally addressed the issue before suddenly leaving Nevada.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Wow.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)I'm still very angry about this and I'm not going to forget it.
I watched the videos. Huerta's description of what took place was accurate. She was shouted off the stage, the moderator yelled "English only" and the crowd cheered.
People are accusing Huerta of lying because her tweet used the word "chanted" and the room was so noisy and chaotic, nobody knows whether there was chanting or not. Her point was 100% correct, however. The crowd gleefully embraced "English only!"
Susan Sarandon came across as a bully and a twit and Snopes lost a lot of credibility jumping to a quick conclusion based on Sarandon's account.
As a result, Bernie's campaign looks bad in this. Bernie should have apologized right away.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)It's easy to laugh at people's struggles to be included when you've never had to worry about being included.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)when she grossly misrepresented Bernie's record on immigration issues. The idea that Bernie should apologize is silly. The crowd may have been cheering because Huerta was not allowed to translate. A neutral person should translate, and so I would have cheered that decision too. The attempt to portray Bernie supporters as right wing nativist English-only assholes seems pretty lame to me.
Oh, and I agree that Sarandon was obnoxious.
dr60omg
(283 posts)Dime con quién andas, y te diré quién eres do you understand what that means?
Our heroes and heroines are not saints ... They are human beings ... sometimes human beings do extraordinary things but they are still human .... Latino Rebels has handled this all well and actually at first I was looking for their radio program and interview with Huerta.
http://www.latinorebels.com/2016/02/24/dolores-huerta-is-wrong/
Even Huerta supposedly walked back the comments. I am sure you don't read Latino rebels but they did a very good deconstruction that was even handed http://www.latinorebels.com/2016/02/21/dolores-huertas-english-only-moment-at-caucus-what-happened-last-night-in-las-vegas/ particularly on their radio show https://soundcloud.com/latinorebels/dolores-huertas-english-only-moment-the-latino-litmus-test-and-voter-suppression-in-arizona
Her attempted smear of Sanders fit the typical Clinton pattern get someone heroic tied to political power and then have them slowly walk it back. It was interesting the other day as I was looking to find an article to make sense of this https://siglodelucha.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/the-politics-of-opportunism-and-capitulation-the-myth-of-dolores-huerta/
Me entiendes?
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)go figure!
Matariki
(18,775 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Correction: The original version of this story incorrectly attributed a statement from a Feb. 20 caucus event in Nevada to Bernie Sanders. Sanders was not present.
http://time.com/4214020/david-brock-correct-record-media-matters-hillary-clinton/
Segami
(14,923 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)dr60omg
(283 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Big Money looks out for itself.
angrychair
(8,700 posts)How could Sanders chant something at an event he was not in attendance????
I'm sure a full page retraction and apology is tomorrow
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)noamnety
(20,234 posts)to issue a correction instead of some weasel worded "misspeak" codswallop.
"Correction: The original version of this story incorrectly attributed a statement from a Feb. 20 caucus event in Nevada to Bernie Sanders. Sanders was not present."
http://time.com/4214020/david-brock-correct-record-media-matters-hillary-clinton/
I'd love to have them reveal who fed them the lie though.