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Harry Reid endorses Hillary Clinton AND a Republican for SCOTUS in the same day. (Original Post) jillan Feb 2016 OP
Nice! n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #1
Actually, It IS Nice Leith Feb 2016 #62
That POS was my senator for 9 years.... Punkingal Feb 2016 #77
How did Sandoval get the job then? JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #86
He's always trying with Rory and it never works. Punkingal Feb 2016 #88
Your post was alerted on. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #114
Okay, are we not allowed to criticize the establishment on this board? trillion Feb 2016 #117
It was alerted for calling Reid a POS. It lost 5-2. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #120
Yes POS is rude. trillion Feb 2016 #121
Jury system. It is what it is. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #122
This is a defining moment for him which I think we all suspected for at least the last decade. trillion Feb 2016 #115
Good point... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #79
Smart! nt californiabernin Feb 2016 #83
i don't think i would trade a SCOTUS for a fucking senator... islandmkl Feb 2016 #95
Put a bad nominee on the SC to save a Senate seat and protect his political legacy... Armstead Feb 2016 #118
You just heard that? From whom? Sandoval has said that he will not run for the Senate. totodeinhere Feb 2016 #124
Well, Since You Asked So Sweetly Leith Feb 2016 #125
Your link shows no such thing. totodeinhere Feb 2016 #128
Said, really said. PFunk1 Feb 2016 #2
Reid is LDS and has always been a fairly conservative Democrat. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #72
The 3rd Way at it's best! tk2kewl Feb 2016 #3
+1000! Fearless Feb 2016 #105
Dirty Harry has been propping up GOP, and GOP-lite Candidates quite a bit this week... AzDar Feb 2016 #4
Out of the gate-I think Reids tolerance of McConnells fredamae Feb 2016 #14
Harry is old and confused. N/T mindem Feb 2016 #5
You made me think of this. geardaddy Feb 2016 #53
Results of your Jury Service Eugene Feb 2016 #70
and down goes the Establishment Merryland Feb 2016 #6
Harry speaks for the Oligarchy. nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #7
Gee 2 right wingers in the same day Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #78
We knew before he was appointed ML back 11 yrs ago Zorra Feb 2016 #8
It's sad that we've been fighting this scam for so long, and the scam remains invisible arcane1 Feb 2016 #15
The Democratic party cannot live much longer with the Third Way cancer eating Zorra Feb 2016 #18
And with the repubs wandering off to crazytown, dems would become the new conservatives. arcane1 Feb 2016 #19
That seems to be the end game of the Reaganite takeover. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #20
That outcome is totally unacceptable AlbertCat Feb 2016 #76
"Getting things done" for who? senz Feb 2016 #27
Mitch McConnell's best friend. nt TheLogicalSong Feb 2016 #9
Mitch McConnell tried to destroy Obama. senz Feb 2016 #29
Nevada's Democratic Town hall. Sanders talks about Harry Reid lunamagica Feb 2016 #10
LMAO, and BOOM goes the dynamite! stevenleser Feb 2016 #16
Politicians speak tactfully to one another. You weren't aware of this? senz Feb 2016 #39
Everybody is entitled to be wrong now and again Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #30
Was he supposed to speak the truth? Politicalboi Feb 2016 #54
There is a reason Democrats are the minority in the Senate. earthside Feb 2016 #11
Amen to that & it is also a reason why Dems don't bother to vote esp in mid-terms. jillan Feb 2016 #12
What's to vote for? Vote for a republican, get a republican. Vote for a democrat, get a republican. stranger81 Feb 2016 #22
You my friend have just hit the nail on the head. This is jwirr Feb 2016 #31
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #33
+1000000. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #74
It's also a reason why so few folks are voting now PFunk1 Feb 2016 #91
Perfect. senz Feb 2016 #42
Actually it's "Heads they win, tails I lose." for us progressives Divernan Feb 2016 #49
Reid ought to limit himself to endorsing no more than one conservative corporatist per day Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #13
But, he doesn't have anything to lose to get reelected... Just has to worry about revolving door... cascadiance Feb 2016 #123
that's exactly what it's going to be like under another Clinton admin nashville_brook Feb 2016 #17
Hmmm not a fan of that guy for Supreme Court. Agschmid Feb 2016 #21
Harry just doomed Hillary in the GE -- should she muscle her way into it nichomachus Feb 2016 #23
Excellent point. Why should we vote for Hillary if this is what we can expect. Bingo!! jillan Feb 2016 #24
add to your excelent point DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #101
Turd Way Politics... WillyT Feb 2016 #25
+10000000 Duval Feb 2016 #36
This is why we lose Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #26
Two WINS for The Establishment and Wall Street in one day! NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #28
He is pro choice, but not for federal funding of abortion. He definitely leans to the right still_one Feb 2016 #32
Lynch would be good. nt Duval Feb 2016 #40
The Repub nominee ruse is to raise anxiety in the GOP. alfredo Feb 2016 #34
Their objective is... monicaangela Feb 2016 #84
That's the belief. alfredo Feb 2016 #94
That sounds serious monicaangela Feb 2016 #99
It's serious, but not that serious. It's Melanoma that was caught early. I'll be OK. alfredo Feb 2016 #103
I'm really happy to hear that freddy! monicaangela Feb 2016 #106
So he supports zentrum Feb 2016 #35
It will be interesting to see whom Mr Obama does nominate... malthaussen Feb 2016 #37
The stonewalling of the GOP to any Obama pick is a blessing LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #38
Here comes the Ted Cruz nomination! Fuddnik Feb 2016 #65
??? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #111
Also it was announced that INdemo Feb 2016 #41
Probably not as ironic as it was meant to be FiveGoodMen Feb 2016 #48
When will they nominate a Trial Lawyer to SCOTUS, someone who has represented the people? Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #43
I support the blockade rnk6670 Feb 2016 #44
Imagine that UglyGreed Feb 2016 #45
Selective spines. Stand up for people? No. Jackilope Feb 2016 #46
Harry Reid , the guy I called Conservative long before it became cool to call Hillary one PatrynXX Feb 2016 #47
Check him out Milliesmom Feb 2016 #50
No, that says it all. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #51
Republicans, DINOs, it's all one to him... Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #52
Didn't that Governor help undo solar in Nevada? Sienna86 Feb 2016 #55
What's the point of voting in Democrats who support Republicans? Deadshot Feb 2016 #56
The Republican and Democrat establishment need to merge Bernblu Feb 2016 #100
I agree. Deadshot Feb 2016 #110
The two "parties" are now two wings of the same party: hifiguy Feb 2016 #108
I'm sure glad a Dem POTUS was there to choose a justice. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #57
Reid endorses 2 Republicans in the same day Politicalboi Feb 2016 #58
Get rid of him! I hope he's going to be primaried. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #59
He's not running for re-election Divernan Feb 2016 #61
Will be good to have him gone. Hopefully to be replaced by someone a bit more progressive. JudyM Feb 2016 #80
Unlikely PFunk1 Feb 2016 #92
Hoping Bernie's candidacy will be a rallying cry for progressives to step up through the country. JudyM Feb 2016 #113
So this is his final statement to the American people. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #96
Harry's a Hollow Man, whose political world ends not with a bang, but with a whimper! Divernan Feb 2016 #60
Is Sandoval tied to the Reid/ICE/Organized Crime scandal? (nt) noamnety Feb 2016 #63
The number of Democrats under the bus is getting rather large. longship Feb 2016 #64
He is more liberal than many Dem office holders: tblue37 Feb 2016 #66
Yep. I'm not advocating Sandoval but the people freaking out should probably research him a bit. PragmaticLiberal Feb 2016 #112
Why do you have the last article first? George II Feb 2016 #67
Because Hillary is a Republican, if not in name. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #102
A fucking Republican? Phlem Feb 2016 #68
That is so disappointing. nt MaeScott Feb 2016 #69
Fucking Corporate Dems Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #71
And yet . . . Gamecock Lefty Feb 2016 #73
Actually, yes. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #81
Reid, you were once a boxer... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #75
Down with the party bosses! iamthebandfanman Feb 2016 #82
He's probably getting even with Sandoval JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #85
Oh God..C'mon Reid, show at least a little discretion EndElectoral Feb 2016 #87
Harry used smoke & mirrors to go after Alan Grayson Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #89
We need to respond ASAP! elljay Feb 2016 #90
So, two Republicans, then? n/t Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #93
Yes, two Republicans in the same day. Bernblu Feb 2016 #98
This is proof that the Democratic and Republican establishments should merge Bernblu Feb 2016 #97
Not Today noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #104
I find it disturbing and sad myself. trillion Feb 2016 #119
Reid Declared He Was Neutral noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #129
Well, hifiguy Feb 2016 #107
Wait didn't Harry have a B rating from the NRA???? UglyGreed Feb 2016 #109
Typical 3rd way tactic beedle Feb 2016 #116
At least he's consistant. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #126
How...convenient. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #127

Leith

(7,809 posts)
62. Actually, It IS Nice
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:38 PM
Feb 2016

Sorry, PonyUp, this is not really a reply to your post. I just wanted to get what I have to say at the top.

I heard a couple days ago that Brian Sandoval might be interested in running for Senate when Harry Reid retires. Since he's fairly popular in NV, the gov would probably get it - thereby flipping the seat to a Republican.

Sandoval has already been a federal judge and he would probably be very interested in a lifelong position in Washington DC with all the prestige but without mucking around raising funds for reelection. Furthermore, he was pretty moderate for a Republican (he accepted the MedicAid expansion here). He would make a decent Supreme.

Reid is trying to raise the chances of keeping his Senate seat in Democratic hands.

Let's not underestimate the senior Senator from my state. He's crazy like a fox.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
77. That POS was my senator for 9 years....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:07 PM
Feb 2016

And I did a lot of work in primaries, etc, and let me tell you, no one got elected in Nevada without his say so, even Republicans. He wanted NO ONE to have any power in Nevada but his damn self. He has been known to make statements about how he would be okay with such and such a Republican getting elected. That way he had zero competition in the Democratic party there.

He has been a bad leader in the Senate and I am glad his sorry ass is retiring. He is a slimy crook.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
86. How did Sandoval get the job then?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:24 PM
Feb 2016

In 2010 Sandoval beat Harry Reid's son by a considerable margin, yet you claim no one got elected without Harry's say so. That's some tough love there.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
88. He's always trying with Rory and it never works.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

But that explains why he wants to get rid of Sandoval. Interesting.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
117. Okay, are we not allowed to criticize the establishment on this board?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:10 PM
Feb 2016

Is that why that person's post was alerted?

I've donated to the DNC many times so I find it hard that I'm not allowed to criticize them.

Are we allowed to list boards were people can criticize Dems and STILL Be Dems?

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
121. Yes POS is rude.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

My thing is, I'm seeing a lot of alerts. I was alerted with - GOP talking point and I've yet to figure out that one. I've never been part of the GOP or would be.

Is POS really that bad? Shouldn't we have discussion on agree or disagree with it instead of immediately alerting and banning?

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
115. This is a defining moment for him which I think we all suspected for at least the last decade.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:52 AM
Feb 2016

I no longer watch the senate. When we had a majority I did keep track and the lip service we got while our own dems sided with the republicans under the guise of the republicans being inflexible so we had to be anti-partisan on our part, was painfully obvious that we were simply being sold out. I mean, we had the majority.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
79. Good point...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

... and it makes me reconsider my previous condemnation of his actions. The Hillary thing is something else again.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
95. i don't think i would trade a SCOTUS for a fucking senator...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

Harry is just trying to play one last power play...and he can sit back and admire what he accomplished

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
118. Put a bad nominee on the SC to save a Senate seat and protect his political legacy...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

I'd say just crazy

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
124. You just heard that? From whom? Sandoval has said that he will not run for the Senate.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

If you have other information please provide a link. Just saying you heard something is not good enough.

Nevada GOP Gov. Brian Sandoval Won't Run For Senate In 2016

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/09/brian-sandoval-nevada-senate_n_7543028.html

Leith

(7,809 posts)
125. Well, Since You Asked So Sweetly
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:15 PM
Feb 2016

It has been on NBC news feeds like the one below since yesterday morning.

http://www.nbc26.com/news/national/sources-nevada-gov-brian-sandoval-being-vetted-for-supreme-court

There is also a tweet by the Washington Post in the article with a timestamp of 10:10am EST yesterday saying the same thing.

Are NBC News and the Washington Post good enough sources? Do I have to explain myself to you any more or am I free to go?

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
128. Your link shows no such thing.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:44 PM
Feb 2016

The article states that Sandoval was being considered for a court pick. We all know that. But what you said was that "I heard a couple days ago that Brian Sandoval might be interested in running for Senate when Harry Reid retires." The article says no such thing. You have not substantiated your claim that Sandoval might br interested in running for the Senate. So there is no need for an attitude on your part.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
2. Said, really said.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:20 PM
Feb 2016

All I can say is what away to go out on Harry (and probably why Nevada's next senator will be a repug).

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
4. Dirty Harry has been propping up GOP, and GOP-lite Candidates quite a bit this week...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:20 PM
Feb 2016




This is why people are calling for a Revolution...

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
14. Out of the gate-I think Reids tolerance of McConnells
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

obstruction/filibusters should have raised flags a Long time ago. I have long maintained that these Dems are neither stupid nor weak. They let it happen, imo-because it's part of the bigger picture.

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
70. Results of your Jury Service
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

On Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:46 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Harry is old and confused. N/T
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1328624

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
15. It's sad that we've been fighting this scam for so long, and the scam remains invisible
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

Nowadays, they call them "Pragmatic progressives who get things done" while failing to mention that the "things getting done" are not progressive.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. The Democratic party cannot live much longer with the Third Way cancer eating
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

its heart and soul.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
19. And with the repubs wandering off to crazytown, dems would become the new conservatives.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:49 PM
Feb 2016

That outcome is totally unacceptable

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
76. That outcome is totally unacceptable
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:06 PM
Feb 2016

Why is that?

They used to play the GOP's current role.... sorta...it's complicated.

Labels, y'know....

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
10. Nevada's Democratic Town hall. Sanders talks about Harry Reid
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:25 PM
Feb 2016

SANDERS: And let me just -- if I might, just say this as I see Harry Reid. The people of Nevada, I believe, are going to miss Harry Reid for all of his enormous accomplishment.

(APPLAUSE)

SANDERS: As well, the people of the United States. It is tough to be a Democratic leader. We are progressives. You have got more conservative people. Senator Reid has kept that coalition going. This country owes Harry Reid a real debt of gratitude.



 

senz

(11,945 posts)
39. Politicians speak tactfully to one another. You weren't aware of this?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

Now best go in and change clothes after rolling around on the ground like that.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
30. Everybody is entitled to be wrong now and again
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

It's the people who make it a profession that are a problem. See Harry Reid.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
11. There is a reason Democrats are the minority in the Senate.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:26 PM
Feb 2016

The timorous and irresolute Harry Reid is exhibit number one of how a risk averse, rightward tilting political strategy doesn't work.

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
22. What's to vote for? Vote for a republican, get a republican. Vote for a democrat, get a republican.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:53 PM
Feb 2016

Heads I win, tails you lose.

What a bunch of f&*$ing suckers we are.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
31. You my friend have just hit the nail on the head. This is
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

exactly why many do not think they will gain anything if they have to vote for Hillary in the GE.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
91. It's also a reason why so few folks are voting now
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

After all why vote if you all your options are the same and are lousy.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
123. But, he doesn't have anything to lose to get reelected... Just has to worry about revolving door...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:57 PM
Feb 2016

... privileges of where he winds up next. Gotta treat those corporate money folks well if he wants to have a good "retirement" job somewhere!

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
17. that's exactly what it's going to be like under another Clinton admin
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:39 PM
Feb 2016

more Republican appointments, more appeasement, more disappointment.

but, by all means blue doggies, please proceed.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
23. Harry just doomed Hillary in the GE -- should she muscle her way into it
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:43 PM
Feb 2016

Once the GE campaigning starts, Hillary's only two selling points to get real progressives to hold their noses and vote for herare the "lesser of two evils" shit and "Booga, booga, booga -- Supreme Court." If Obama names a centrist or right winger to the court, she's down to "lesser of two evils." And with her dismal record of "accomplishments," even that argument is catastrophically weak sauce.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
101. add to your excelent point
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

That after the sheer reign of terror that was Nino Scalia, most of us will want someone that will UNDO THE DAMAGE he did, not reinforce it. The GOP is scared because someone competent could wreck their nice little conservative machine. In true form, Harry is willing to ruin that so he can get rid of a rival, so Debbie Wasserman Schultz can run another DINO that will get their ass kicked.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
28. Two WINS for The Establishment and Wall Street in one day!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

I might not like it, but I have a clear understanding that TPTB prefer it that way.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
32. He is pro choice, but not for federal funding of abortion. He definitely leans to the right
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

but is not an extreme right winger

All in all, not a good choice

I remain skeptical on the news reports

I wish he would appoint Lynch

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
84. Their objective is...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:14 PM
Feb 2016

to block President Obama.....PERIOD...I don't believe they would even accept a GOP nominee at this point.

OT: Hope all is well with you.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
94. That's the belief.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:22 PM
Feb 2016

I will be in the hospital tomorrow and Friday to get a biopsy and a PEG. This should be interesting.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
99. That sounds serious
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

Do you have a problem with your throat, digestive track, or what? I hope the results of your biopsy are benign. My prayers will be with you. Hoping you get well soon.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
37. It will be interesting to see whom Mr Obama does nominate...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:05 PM
Feb 2016

... if anyone. "In due course" leaves a lot of wriggle room.

Lately, there have been those who have argued that Mr Obama is tired of trying to make nice and appease the GOP to "get stuff done." Hence executive orders that have been more progressive than otherwise. His choice as nominee will tell us much about what his mind-set truly is. Which is, in fact, one reason why "due course" may be a lot longer than many seem to think.

-- Mal

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
38. The stonewalling of the GOP to any Obama pick is a blessing
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:05 PM
Feb 2016

Because Obama, if he predictably follows his pattern of desperately trying to find something, anything, that he can conjole the GOP senators to pass for him in order to add a bi-partisan credential to his legacy, will pick someone like this as his nominee. And Reid will gladly strong-arm Democrats to vote in favour as well.

Go ahead GOP, make my day...lets wait for President Bernie to nominate a candidate. And if its Hillary, really nothing to lose at least by waiting.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
48. Probably not as ironic as it was meant to be
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

I'll bet the PTB would rather -- much rather -- deal with Hillary than with a loose cannon like Trump.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
43. When will they nominate a Trial Lawyer to SCOTUS, someone who has represented the people?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

Not some tort reforming blowhard eager to take away your rights to sue corporations!

 

rnk6670

(29 posts)
44. I support the blockade
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

of SCOTUS nominations if this is the shit we're gonna get, then hold that shit till after the election. Not to mention - this is why I support Bernie and won't be shitting my vote down the Clinton toilet. NO. MORE. BULLSHIT. Time for an actual liberal in the white house.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
47. Harry Reid , the guy I called Conservative long before it became cool to call Hillary one
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:14 PM
Feb 2016

oh duh. albeit didn't she just piss him off over how WHITE nevada was

Deadshot

(384 posts)
56. What's the point of voting in Democrats who support Republicans?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

And it's no surprise he endorses Hillary Clinton. She's basically a Republican anyways.

Bernblu

(441 posts)
100. The Republican and Democrat establishment need to merge
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

into the party of the 1%. So, we can have a party of the bottom 90%.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
108. The two "parties" are now two wings of the same party:
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

The Money Party.

Which is why we need Bernie so badly.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
57. I'm sure glad a Dem POTUS was there to choose a justice.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

Tell me again why we have to make sure a Dem is elected.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
61. He's not running for re-election
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:37 PM
Feb 2016

Reid formally announced on March 27, 2015 that he will retire at the end of his current term on January 3, 2017, saying that his recent injuries and subsequent recovery had nothing to do with his decision.[1][2][3]

Criticism

Liberal critics have argued that Reid was not doing enough to end the American military presence in Iraq,[38] and that he allowed Senate Republicans to create a 60-vote bar for passage of bills without a Democratic filibuster.[39][40][41] Conservatives have criticized Reid for his extensive use of the procedural tactic known as "Filling the tree" to prevent amendments on important bills.[42]

Reid has also been criticized for several potentially self-enriching tactics. In 2005, Reid earmarked a spending bill to provide for building a bridge between Nevada and Arizona that would make land he owned more valuable. Reid called funding for construction of a bridge over the Colorado River, among other projects, "incredibly good news for Nevada" in a news release after passage of the 2006 transportation bill. He owned 160 acres (65 ha) of land several miles from the proposed bridge site in Arizona. The bridge could add value to his real estate investment.[43] A year later it was reported that Reid had used campaign donations to pay for $3,300 in Christmas gifts to the staff at the condominium where he resides;[44] federal election law prohibits candidates from using political donations for personal use. Reid's staff stated that his campaign attorneys had approved this use of the funds, but that Reid would personally reimburse his campaign for the expenses. Citizens United filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission to investigate the matter.[45]

A series of investigative reports in the Los Angeles Times[46][47][48][49] suggested that Reid had introduced legislation and imposed pressure on regulatory agencies to advance the business interests of his close friend Harvey Whittemore, a Nevada attorney-lobbyist who contributed heavily to Reid's campaigns and leadership fund and who employed Reid's son Leif as his personal attorney. With Reid's help, Whittemore was able to proceed with construction of a $30 billion planned golf course development, Coyote Springs, a project heavily criticized by environmental groups for reasons including its projected effects on several endangered species.[50][51]

wikipedia

PFunk1

(185 posts)
92. Unlikely
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

That seat is probably gonna go repug in the next election as there's now qualified candidate which can win it from them.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
113. Hoping Bernie's candidacy will be a rallying cry for progressives to step up through the country.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:46 AM
Feb 2016
 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
96. So this is his final statement to the American people.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

I'm calling my lawyer to have him change my will.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
60. Harry's a Hollow Man, whose political world ends not with a bang, but with a whimper!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:30 PM
Feb 2016
TS Eliot - The Hollow Men

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us - if at all - not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.


This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

http://www.artofeurope.com/eliot/eli2.htm


"The Hollow Men" (1925) is a poem by T. S. Eliot. Its themes are, like many of Eliot's poems, overlapping and fragmentary, but it is recognized to be concerned most with post-World War I Europe under the Treaty of Versailles (which Eliot despised).

The final stanza may be the most quoted of all of Eliot's poetry:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Nevil Shute's novel, On the Beach (1957), takes its name from the second stanza of Part IV of the poem and extracts from the poem, including the passage in which the novel's title appears, have been printed in the front papers of some editions of the book including the 1957 first US edition.[19]


IV

The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms
In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

longship

(40,416 posts)
64. The number of Democrats under the bus is getting rather large.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:38 PM
Feb 2016

"Self inflicted Bar-B-Que; we're cooking our own goose." (Quote, Snagglepuss. Exit stage left.)

Sheesh!

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
66. He is more liberal than many Dem office holders:
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:43 PM
Feb 2016
Sandoval’s problems aren’t exactly unique: John Kasich, a friend of the governor’s, likes to tout his centrist agenda in Ohio. But even compared to Kasich, Sandoval’s record wouldn't be easy to embrace if you're running for president. The tax increases Sandoval signed have since funded a landmark overhaul in public education—likely to become his signature achievement and a bold gamble meant to turn around what is frequently ranked the worst state education system in the country. Yet education is simply the most recent of a long list of Sandoval’s conservative heresies: The abortion rights governor has embraced Obamacare; lauded immigration reform and DREAMers; fiercely championed renewable energy; and taken lesser known actions on police body cameras, driver’s licenses for undocumented aliens and multiple moves to squelch Republican-led tort reform.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/nevada-primary-brian-sandoval-213668#ixzz417kejURh


Obama would really mess up the Repub senators with a Sandoval nomination--and he would protect rights we want protected.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
112. Yep. I'm not advocating Sandoval but the people freaking out should probably research him a bit.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

IF you're going to nominate a Republican he's probably the best case scenario.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
68. A fucking Republican?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

He's always been iffy but now we have confirmation.

He needs to be primaried, yesterday.

Fuck you very much Harry.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
73. And yet . . .
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

Some Bernie supporters love telling us how he being supported by Independents and even some Republicans.

Need I say more?

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
81. Actually, yes.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:10 PM
Feb 2016

What exactly are you suggesting? Yes, a lot of independents are going to vote for Bernie - and some republicans might, too. What does this have to do with Reid endorsing Clinton AND a republican supreme court nominee on the same day? Are you suggesting that, because Sanders is getting some independent and republican support that he is a republican? Are you suggesting that Sanders supporters are? What exactly are you suggesting? Please, do elaborate.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
75. Reid, you were once a boxer...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

... but now you're throwing the fight for obnoxious Tea Party bullies with oppositional/defiance disorder. Sandoval may be whatever passes for moderate these days, but he's still a fucking REPUBLICAN! Shame on you.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
82. Down with the party bosses!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:11 PM
Feb 2016

Break free from the chains of their oppression!
its time to take this party back for the FDR democrats that are still left and haven't become jaded!

we broke the party bosses in the early 20th century and its time to clean house again!

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
85. He's probably getting even with Sandoval
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:20 PM
Feb 2016

Brian Sandoval beat Harry Reid's son for the statehouse in 2010. This is one way to get rid of him. hahaha

Kidding aside, this is less of an endorsement and more of a concession that if Sandoval is offered up, Reid would support the president's nomination decision. Having said that, he's far from being a right wing religious nut job like his predecessor and is already considered one of the front runners for the gig. Imagine the Republicans having to find excuses to shun him.

As for Reid endorsing Clinton, that's no surprise as 39 other member of the Senate already have, including my own, the great Sherrod Brown. Bernie has one (1).

elljay

(1,178 posts)
90. We need to respond ASAP!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

We need to get out front of this before Obama makes a Republican appointment. We need each and every Bernie and Hillary supporter to let it be know that we do not want a Cliven Bundy supporter on the SCOTUS!

Does anyone here have some familiarity with creating petitions either on the White House site or through MoveOn? I'd offer the following language (feel free to edit if you want to run with this!)

President Obama: No Republican Appointment to the SCOTUS

President Obama - You have faced an unprecedented level of obstructionism from the Republicans in Congress. Millions of Americans voted for you twice and have stood up for you during the repeated attacks on your character, competence, and accomplishments. It is now your turn to stand up for us by not caving in to Republican pressure by nominating Brian Sandoval to the Supreme Court. The majority of people in this country do not want to be saddled for the next 30 years by a justice who opposes our values. Please stand firm and we will stand with you!

Bernblu

(441 posts)
98. Yes, two Republicans in the same day.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

Nice work if you can get it and you're a corrupt asshat like Reid.

Bernblu

(441 posts)
97. This is proof that the Democratic and Republican establishments should merge
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016

They already have on issues of the 1%. Reid is a tool of the establishment and the casino owners. We really need Bernie to clean up the Democratic Party or a new party for the 90%.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
119. I find it disturbing and sad myself.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

It's speaks a lot for supporting the establishment - specifically the 1% who rule it and are in Hillary's super pacs.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
129. Reid Declared He Was Neutral
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

He was far from neutral. This endorsement was merely confirming what everyone already knew was true when he was "neutral".

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
109. Wait didn't Harry have a B rating from the NRA????
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:06 PM
Feb 2016

and Hillary gave him a shout out at the NV town hall last week........ Well Harry's B is better than Bernie's D-


 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
116. Typical 3rd way tactic
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:16 AM
Feb 2016

Start the negotiations are the center right, then bargain rightward until they replace one right wing nut job with another.

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