2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Warren won't join Bernie as his running mate (and I think the case can be made that she shouldn't
I think an excellent choice for VP with Bernie is Raúl Grijalva. That guy has awesome progressive credentials.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)those supportive of Warren are already on board with Bernie. But, Grijalva will never be on a ticket with Bernie ... they are too far apart on the issue of immigration.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)So I guess Grijalva doesn't agree with your assessment that they are too far apart on immigration. That said, all of this is pointless since Clinton will be the nominee.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)but being in Arizona, and working within the Democratic Party, I know Raul's position on immigration and their differences.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)http://observer.com/2016/02/bernie-backers-say-hillarys-attacks-on-his-immigration-record-are-appalling/
"COLUMBIA, S.C.On the day of the Nevada Democratic caucuses, top Latino surrogates for Sen. Bernie Sanders presidential campaign aggressively pushed back against charges from the Clinton camp that the Vermont senator is not a true friend of the immigration reform movement.
Sanders supporters, including Congressman Raúl Grijalva of Arizona, a co-chair of the House Progressive Caucus, said this afternoon that the recent broadsides from Hillary Clintons surrogates were appalling and a little pathetic.
At the end of the day, these attacks on Bernie are only a consequence of a campaign that now has proven resilient and very, very strong, Mr. Grijalva said on a conference call organized by the Sanders campaign. It is more an act of desperation that it is an act of truth.
Punching back against Clinton surrogates like Julian Castro, the Housing and Urban Development secretary, and Illinois Congressman Luis Gutiérrezwho both attacked Mr. Sanders for voting with the anti-immigrant right when he opposed a 2007 immigration reform billMr. Grijalva said he wouldve stood with Mr. Sanders and voted against the legislation because of a provision that would have greatly expanded the number of guest workers in the U.S.
It was a more a gift to corporate America for cheap labor, the Arizona congressman said. It was exploitative.
As Mr. Grijalva said, the AFL-CIO and some Latino organizations also opposed the legislation, a bipartisan effort spearheaded by the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, on those grounds, as well as a fear the guest workers could drive down American wages. The congressman took special aim at Clinton surrogates for spreading what he called disingenuous information and distortion.
My colleagues that have been saying that, theyre friends, but the information is wrong and desperate and is a little pathetic to watch.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)brooklynite
(94,591 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)brooklynite
(94,591 posts)...it's whether she adds anything to the ticket. An ultra-progressive Congresswoman from Blue State California does not.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)to flip their seat to the Repubs, and as you say two progressives may not be "balanced" enough.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)We in MA can elect another senator.
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)her if she'd have run.
But I think there is a really good case to be made that we need her as a senator where she can do a lot of good much more than as VP.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)We have many good people who could run.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)We have a democratic supermajority in both houses on both state and federal levels. We do just fine. The governor is a puppet just like Romney was.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Have at it.
mythology
(9,527 posts)One if she gives up her seat, even for the VP slot, she will lose much of her ability to enact change.
Two, Scott Brown. Sure hopefully we wouldn't have Martha Coakley running again, but it's not a sure thing that a Democrat would replace her.
FFS, Scott Brown was the only Republican senator we've had in forty years! And that seat hadn't been held by a Republican otherwise since before JFK!
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)That doesn't already have a national profile.
I think it would be essential that Bernie pick someone with strong Foreign Policy credentials.
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)weren't exactly superstars on the national stage when they were picked.
Biden, obviously, and Kemp, and to a lesser degree Gore were more well known.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)in the calculations for me
Kristen Gillebrand is also a strong possibility as is Grijalva
I know it's weird but if Sanders gets the nomination I really wonder if he'd also consider Hillary Clinton...
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)That would undercut Bernie's message.
I wish Warren would return to her native Oklahoma. Then she'd make total sense as a VP. Love Raul, but he's no spring chicken. Kamala Harris could be great, but she's already running for Senate and is on the President's short list for SCOTUS, too.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Reich is currently Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California, Berkeley. He was formerly a professor at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government[2] and professor of social and economic policy at the Heller School for Social Policy and Management of Brandeis University. He has also been a contributing editor of The New Republic, The American Prospect (also chairman and founding editor), Harvard Business Review, The Atlantic, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal.
Reich is a political commentator on programs including Hardball with Chris Matthews, This Week with George Stephanopoulos, CNBC's Kudlow & Company, and APM's Marketplace. In 2008, Time magazine named him one of the Ten Best Cabinet Members of the century,[3] and The Wall Street Journal in 2008 placed him sixth on its list of the "Most Influential Business Thinkers".[4] He was appointed a member of President-elect Barack Obama's economic transition advisory board.[5] Until 2012, he was married to British-born lawyer, Clare Dalton, with whom he has two sons, Sam and Adam.[6]
He has published 14 books, including the best-sellers The Work of Nations, Reason, Supercapitalism, Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future, and a best-selling e-book, Beyond Outrage. He is also chairman of Common Cause and writes his own blog about the political economy at Robertreich.org.[7] The Robert Reich Jacob Kornbluth film Inequality for All won a U.S. Documentary Special Jury Award for Achievement in Filmmaking at the 2013 Sundance Film Festival in Utah.[8][9]
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)He should definitely be considered. And "Inequality For All" is a great movie!
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)But there are other possibilities and I'm thinking: outside of the system. Say someone who has been working to save our dying planet. Or someone who has been working on feeding the hungry and housing the homeless. Or an organic farmer (talk about saving the planet!). There are millions of brilliant people in our country who also have the knowledge and skills to run for, and hold, high public office, but don't do so because the system is so very, very, very corrupt, and has been rendered so useless at addressing our most critical problems.
Choosing a VP is so often a cynical business of treating voters like "interest groups" and "balancing" the ticket. It's such an insider game. It would be refreshing to see a more open-minded approach and undertake a search for a great American problem-solver who may not be all that visible to the dreadful Corporate Media but may be great at being president (if needs be) and would do great work as VP--AND would enhance the ticket.
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)I do worry about bernies health though. We need to have somebody in place at the second in command spot who would be even worse for the powers that be if something happened to Bernie.
longship
(40,416 posts)1. One picks a running mate who fills out ones capabilities, not duplicates them. Both Bernie and Liz are New Englanders, both are very progressive.
2. Liz has repeatedly stated that she intends to stay in the US Senate.
3. If Bernie gets the nomination he will certainly choose a running mate who will complement him. It is what I would do.