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If Warren won't join Bernie as his running mate (and I think the case can be made that she shouldn't (Original Post) ProfessorPlum Feb 2016 OP
Neither Warren, nor Grijalva would add (much) to Sanders' campaign ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #1
Grijalva endorsed Sanders. TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #3
I know that Raul endorsed Bernie ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #4
Grijalva supports Bernie on immigration. CentralMass Feb 2016 #8
Okay ... But that's not what he says in Arizona. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #10
What about Barbara Lee? GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #2
Hmm, so Sanders needs to shore up his liberal base? brooklynite Feb 2016 #5
Do you not like her? GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #7
Whether I like her or not isn't the issue... brooklynite Feb 2016 #9
Hmmmmmm... Maybe. We may not be able to use anyone currently sitting in Congress. We don't want GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #11
Umm... SHE SHOULD. There is no case against her Fearless Feb 2016 #6
There's definitely no case _against_ her. She's wonderful. I would have campaigned my ass off for ProfessorPlum Feb 2016 #12
She is replaceable in the Senate Fearless Feb 2016 #19
We have a fuckin' GOP suckass governor. I don't trust these voters to vote for a new senator. nt valerief Feb 2016 #16
Mature one you are Fearless Feb 2016 #20
Name-callers go straight to my Forever Ignored Club. nt valerief Feb 2016 #22
"fucking suck-ass"... " I don't trust voters " Fearless Feb 2016 #24
There are two problems with that mythology Feb 2016 #25
... Fearless Feb 2016 #28
Very rarely do you see a VP pick firebrand80 Feb 2016 #13
I'd argue that Ferraro, Palin, Quayle, Bentson, and Ryan ProfessorPlum Feb 2016 #17
I'm a big fan of Tammy Duckworth but Cory Booker and Julian Castro also figure Arazi Feb 2016 #14
Booker may be even more friendly with Wall Street than HRC is RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #27
Robert Reich for VP! Yeah, another white guy, I know, but he'd make an excellent VP. valerief Feb 2016 #15
I love Bob Reich. hifiguy Feb 2016 #23
Raśl Grijalva would be great, if Warren wants to stay in the Senate. Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #18
I like the way that you are thinking ProfessorPlum Feb 2016 #21
Warren certainly would not be a good choice. longship Feb 2016 #26
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. Neither Warren, nor Grijalva would add (much) to Sanders' campaign ...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

those supportive of Warren are already on board with Bernie. But, Grijalva will never be on a ticket with Bernie ... they are too far apart on the issue of immigration.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
3. Grijalva endorsed Sanders.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:40 PM
Feb 2016

So I guess Grijalva doesn't agree with your assessment that they are too far apart on immigration. That said, all of this is pointless since Clinton will be the nominee.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. I know that Raul endorsed Bernie ...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016

but being in Arizona, and working within the Democratic Party, I know Raul's position on immigration and their differences.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
8. Grijalva supports Bernie on immigration.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:53 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/raul-grijalva-bernie-sanders-immigration-219542

http://observer.com/2016/02/bernie-backers-say-hillarys-attacks-on-his-immigration-record-are-appalling/

"COLUMBIA, S.C.—On the day of the Nevada Democratic caucuses, top Latino surrogates for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign aggressively pushed back against charges from the Clinton camp that the Vermont senator is not a true friend of the immigration reform movement.

Sanders supporters, including Congressman Raúl Grijalva of Arizona, a co-chair of the House Progressive Caucus, said this afternoon that the recent broadsides from Hillary Clinton’s surrogates were “appalling” and a “little pathetic.”

At the end of the day, these attacks on Bernie are only a consequence of a campaign that now has proven resilient and very, very strong,” Mr. Grijalva said on a conference call organized by the Sanders campaign. “It is more an act of desperation that it is an act of truth.”

Punching back against Clinton surrogates like Julian Castro, the Housing and Urban Development secretary, and Illinois Congressman Luis Gutiérrez—who both attacked Mr. Sanders for voting with the “anti-immigrant right” when he opposed a 2007 immigration reform bill—Mr. Grijalva said he would’ve stood with Mr. Sanders and voted against the legislation because of a provision that would have greatly expanded the number of guest workers in the U.S.

“It was a more a gift to corporate America for cheap labor,” the Arizona congressman said. “It was exploitative.”

As Mr. Grijalva said, the AFL-CIO and some Latino organizations also opposed the legislation, a bipartisan effort spearheaded by the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, on those grounds, as well as a fear the guest workers could drive down American wages. The congressman took special aim at Clinton surrogates for spreading what he called “disingenuous information” and “distortion.”

“My colleagues that have been saying that, they’re friends, but the information is wrong and desperate and is a little pathetic to watch.”

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
9. Whether I like her or not isn't the issue...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

...it's whether she adds anything to the ticket. An ultra-progressive Congresswoman from Blue State California does not.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
11. Hmmmmmm... Maybe. We may not be able to use anyone currently sitting in Congress. We don't want
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

to flip their seat to the Repubs, and as you say two progressives may not be "balanced" enough.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
12. There's definitely no case _against_ her. She's wonderful. I would have campaigned my ass off for
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Feb 2016

her if she'd have run.

But I think there is a really good case to be made that we need her as a senator where she can do a lot of good much more than as VP.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
20. Mature one you are
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

We have a democratic supermajority in both houses on both state and federal levels. We do just fine. The governor is a puppet just like Romney was.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
25. There are two problems with that
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

One if she gives up her seat, even for the VP slot, she will lose much of her ability to enact change.

Two, Scott Brown. Sure hopefully we wouldn't have Martha Coakley running again, but it's not a sure thing that a Democrat would replace her.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
28. ...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:15 AM
Feb 2016
FFS, Scott Brown was the only Republican senator we've had in forty years! And that seat hadn't been held by a Republican otherwise since before JFK!

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
13. Very rarely do you see a VP pick
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

That doesn't already have a national profile.

I think it would be essential that Bernie pick someone with strong Foreign Policy credentials.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
17. I'd argue that Ferraro, Palin, Quayle, Bentson, and Ryan
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:43 PM
Feb 2016

weren't exactly superstars on the national stage when they were picked.

Biden, obviously, and Kemp, and to a lesser degree Gore were more well known.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
14. I'm a big fan of Tammy Duckworth but Cory Booker and Julian Castro also figure
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:11 PM
Feb 2016

in the calculations for me

Kristen Gillebrand is also a strong possibility as is Grijalva

I know it's weird but if Sanders gets the nomination I really wonder if he'd also consider Hillary Clinton...

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
27. Booker may be even more friendly with Wall Street than HRC is
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:59 AM
Feb 2016

That would undercut Bernie's message.

I wish Warren would return to her native Oklahoma. Then she'd make total sense as a VP. Love Raul, but he's no spring chicken. Kamala Harris could be great, but she's already running for Senate and is on the President's short list for SCOTUS, too.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
15. Robert Reich for VP! Yeah, another white guy, I know, but he'd make an excellent VP.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Reich
Robert Bernard Reich (/ˈraɪʃ/;[1] born June 24, 1946) is an American political economist, professor, author, and political commentator. He served in the administrations of Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter and was Secretary of Labor under President Bill Clinton from 1993 to 1997.

Reich is currently Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California, Berkeley. He was formerly a professor at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government[2] and professor of social and economic policy at the Heller School for Social Policy and Management of Brandeis University. He has also been a contributing editor of The New Republic, The American Prospect (also chairman and founding editor), Harvard Business Review, The Atlantic, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal.

Reich is a political commentator on programs including Hardball with Chris Matthews, This Week with George Stephanopoulos, CNBC's Kudlow & Company, and APM's Marketplace. In 2008, Time magazine named him one of the Ten Best Cabinet Members of the century,[3] and The Wall Street Journal in 2008 placed him sixth on its list of the "Most Influential Business Thinkers".[4] He was appointed a member of President-elect Barack Obama's economic transition advisory board.[5] Until 2012, he was married to British-born lawyer, Clare Dalton, with whom he has two sons, Sam and Adam.[6]

He has published 14 books, including the best-sellers The Work of Nations, Reason, Supercapitalism, Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future, and a best-selling e-book, Beyond Outrage. He is also chairman of Common Cause and writes his own blog about the political economy at Robertreich.org.[7] The Robert Reich – Jacob Kornbluth film Inequality for All won a U.S. Documentary Special Jury Award for Achievement in Filmmaking at the 2013 Sundance Film Festival in Utah.[8][9]
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
23. I love Bob Reich.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

He should definitely be considered. And "Inequality For All" is a great movie!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
18. Raśl Grijalva would be great, if Warren wants to stay in the Senate.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

But there are other possibilities and I'm thinking: outside of the system. Say someone who has been working to save our dying planet. Or someone who has been working on feeding the hungry and housing the homeless. Or an organic farmer (talk about saving the planet!). There are millions of brilliant people in our country who also have the knowledge and skills to run for, and hold, high public office, but don't do so because the system is so very, very, very corrupt, and has been rendered so useless at addressing our most critical problems.

Choosing a VP is so often a cynical business of treating voters like "interest groups" and "balancing" the ticket. It's such an insider game. It would be refreshing to see a more open-minded approach and undertake a search for a great American problem-solver who may not be all that visible to the dreadful Corporate Media but may be great at being president (if needs be) and would do great work as VP--AND would enhance the ticket.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
21. I like the way that you are thinking
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

I do worry about bernies health though. We need to have somebody in place at the second in command spot who would be even worse for the powers that be if something happened to Bernie.

longship

(40,416 posts)
26. Warren certainly would not be a good choice.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:48 AM
Feb 2016

1. One picks a running mate who fills out ones capabilities, not duplicates them. Both Bernie and Liz are New Englanders, both are very progressive.

2. Liz has repeatedly stated that she intends to stay in the US Senate.

3. If Bernie gets the nomination he will certainly choose a running mate who will complement him. It is what I would do.

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