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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:53 PM Feb 2016

Dismissing Bernie’s Supporters as “a Mob” and the Great Recession as No Big Deal

2/23/2016

William K. Black
February 23, 2016 Bloomington, MN

In an unintentionally hilarious piece evincing exceptional moral blindness, Mr. Womack, a journalist, writes to Bernie.

Senator, you are forming a mob of angry, misinformed people and then turning it on the likely Democratic nominee. That, Senator, is a dangerous and destructive game. Does your campaign honestly wonder why it has become synonymous with nasty online invective?

Gosh, I would have thought that “nasty online invective” might call tens of millions of Americans “a mob of angry, misinformed people” who were “dangerous” because they were backing a candidate for the nomination who is not “the likely Democratic nominee.” The idea that in an electoral nomination contest one is not allowed to criticize the current leader in delegates is, to be gentle, novel. It is certainly not the approach that either then Senator Sanders or then Senator Clinton took when they trailed each other at various points eight years ago.

The journalist’s libel of progressive voters is similar to President Obama’s infamous slander of the American people when he was talking to the Nation’s most powerful banksters. “My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks.” That was a slander because the American people wanted justice, not a mob lynching. Womack uses the same mob meme to slander people who make up the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.

The journalist thinks Wall Street, the Fed, and the systemically dangerous institutions (SDIs) are working great because there are “stress tests.” The implication is that this means the SDIs will not fail. Here is a partial list of SDIs that passed stress tests – often weeks before they collapsed.

Fannie

Freddie

Lehman

Bear Stearns

AIG

The three giant Icelandic banks

The biggest and worst Irish banks

WaMu

IndyMac



As the journalist says, he has no expertise in economics, banking, regulation, or white-collar crime. He also is plainly deliberately selective and deceptive. For example, he makes a big deal of the fact that Bernie’s plan begins by identifying the SDIs, because we are already in the process of creating such a list. Bernie’s plan calls for getting rid of the SDIs because the way you make that list (which is currently euphemistically called “systemically important”) is because when (not “if”) the next one fails the experts believe it is likely it will cause a global financial crisis. Womack simply ignores that substantive point and tries to make it sound bizarre that Bernie’s plan calls for the completion of identifying the SDIs.

in full: http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2016/02/dismissing-bernies-supporters-mob-great-recession-no-big-deal.html

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Dismissing Bernie’s Supporters as “a Mob” and the Great Recession as No Big Deal (Original Post) Jefferson23 Feb 2016 OP
Frankly, I can't wait for the day when these condescending people are subjected to real angry mobs. TheLogicalSong Feb 2016 #1
I will borrow my brother's roguevalley Feb 2016 #14
lots of unintentionally hilarious content coming from Wall St cronies nashville_brook Feb 2016 #2
Yea, especially when they cloak it in..I really really like you BUT. lol Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #3
Bravo. mmonk Feb 2016 #4
Bill Black is tremendous on these issues, precise and determined to remove the bullshit. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #5
K&R for William K. Black. nt OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #6
Few people are more knowledge about banksters than William Black BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #7
A learned and experienced man, yes. That's what many hate about him. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #10
...! Good points and I'm a big fan of Bill Black, also. KoKo Feb 2016 #13
They're not big on morals and principles whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #8
How dare a Presidential Candidate tell the truth to the American People! jillan Feb 2016 #9
I am not a mob.. mountain grammy Feb 2016 #11
Or, attack everyone. merrily Feb 2016 #19
William Black's Website for those that haven't seen it. Punx Feb 2016 #12
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #15
I pray for a France-style revolution more often than not. n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #16
They modeled theirs on ours. One difference was that their royal family and nobles were all merrily Feb 2016 #20
I wouldn't say mob, Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #17
I wouldn't say fanatics AlbertCat Feb 2016 #24
yep 840high Feb 2016 #26
Mr. Black's Only Mistake Billsmile Feb 2016 #18
Link for the Piece Black is Responding to: Billsmile Feb 2016 #21
Thanks. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #23
What? Milliesmom Feb 2016 #22
I am voting for Bernie! erlewyne Feb 2016 #25
Me too and you're very welcome. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #27
William K. Black for Attorny General merkins Feb 2016 #28
Bravo! (again) Duppers Feb 2016 #29
Not much you can do with a mindset like that... Fairgo Feb 2016 #30
ha ha I like your message very much. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #32
KnR nt PonyUp Feb 2016 #31

TheLogicalSong

(44 posts)
1. Frankly, I can't wait for the day when these condescending people are subjected to real angry mobs.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

What a beautiful day that will be.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
14. I will borrow my brother's
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:07 PM
Feb 2016

pitch fork. only clowns and 1% believe this kind of shit. May he have to pay yuuuuge taxes for the rest of his miserable life and may he live forever. I want to slap his mother.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
7. Few people are more knowledge about banksters than William Black
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:20 PM
Feb 2016

He was involved in prosecuting many of them in the aftermath of the S&L scandals of the 1980's and has often noted how no banksters were prosecuted following the vastly greater 2008 financial meltdown.

Hillary's idea that regulators can just keep an eye on these monstrous investment banks and shut them down or break them up when they start getting into trouble is ludicrous, as Black points out. I doubt a lot of people are aware of this, but the common stock of Deutsche Bank, the 11th largest bank in the world in assets (Chinese state owned banks are the top 4), is currently trading below its 2008-09 lows. With the collapse in oil prices, which creates problems with oil related credit including the debt of countries that are heavily dependent on oil revenues, and an extremely flat yield curve, the position of the too big to fail banks is deteriorating again. Take a look at the performance of their stock prices over the last year or two.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. ...! Good points and I'm a big fan of Bill Black, also.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:04 PM
Feb 2016


Hillary's idea that regulators can just keep an eye on these monstrous investment banks and shut them down or break them up when they start getting into trouble is ludicrous, as Black points out. I doubt a lot of people are aware of this, but the common stock of Deutsche Bank, the 11th largest bank in the world in assets (Chinese state owned banks are the top 4), is currently trading below its 2008-09 lows. With the collapse in oil prices, which creates problems with oil related credit including the debt of countries that are heavily dependent on oil revenues, and an extremely flat yield curve, the position of the too big to fail banks is deteriorating again. Take a look at the performance of their stock prices over the last year or two.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
8. They're not big on morals and principles
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:20 PM
Feb 2016

It's just win at any cost. Not the kind of people we want setting the course for the nation.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
9. How dare a Presidential Candidate tell the truth to the American People!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:26 PM
Feb 2016


No matter what the outcome of this primary season, Bernie has already won. He has exposed the wall street crooks & the public is now aware, and that will not go away even after a new President is sworn in.

Punx

(446 posts)
12. William Black's Website for those that haven't seen it.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/

As to Womack, "Go jump in a Lake!".

I guess I'm just imagining and misinformed that the manufacturing my wife supported moved to China due to "Most Favored Nation Status", and the consequences to us, 100's of k of lost income. Where are all those jobs that "Free Trade" is supposed to create?

Or our friends, who through bank fraud lost their house. Our friends had a case, but their lawyers said the bank would bleed them dry in delays before they could get their "Day in Court".

And don't get me started on TPP or TTIP.

btw. I have a great deal of education and experience in economics, finance and accounting. I've worked in banking, manufacturing, retail and other spots over the years. So misinformed? Not so much I think.

So if I seem a little irritated with those making the rules, DEAL WITH IT!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. They modeled theirs on ours. One difference was that their royal family and nobles were all
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

within their borders, while our lot was an ocean away.

And the guillotine thing.

Billsmile

(404 posts)
18. Mr. Black's Only Mistake
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:57 PM
Feb 2016

Was that he meant to say, "It is certainly not the approach that either then Senator Obama or then Senator Clinton took when they trailed each other at various points eight years ago."

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
22. What?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:18 PM
Feb 2016

Apparently the man has not seen Trump crowds, with the Hitler salute and KKK hoods , screaming, beating protesters ,better watch this one from afar.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
25. I am voting for Bernie!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:42 PM
Feb 2016

Very good Post Jefferson23. I sure like the
DUers that have responded to your Post.

Thanks everyone!!!

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
30. Not much you can do with a mindset like that...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:15 AM
Feb 2016

Ignorance is incredibly freeing but in the end it leaves you isolated, alone, and debased.

Listen to Bernie, we can help you excise this moral tumour. You'll thank me for the clarity of thought.

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