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I'm Not Going To Look A Gift Horse, Errr Republican In The Mouth -Rasmussen -Obama -48% Romney 47% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 OP
BUT THE BOUNCE! NT fugop Oct 2012 #1
No matter how close it gets CanonRay Oct 2012 #2
Reminds me of MountainMazza Oct 2012 #4
you would think by now people would've learned nothing is certain. GusFring Oct 2012 #7
But he isn't. Not saying he can't but Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #16
Romney is NOT winning Ohio CanonRay Oct 2012 #21
I have to say Ras has seemed to fair in the days after the debate WI_DEM Oct 2012 #3
the question is it because you like his results better, or because they are really better? still_one Oct 2012 #8
For me it's the stability. fugop Oct 2012 #9
yes, I think that is it. Even some of there state polls while they don't give WI_DEM Oct 2012 #10
Strangely, their swing state numbers give Romney the edge. fugop Oct 2012 #13
Definitely it looks like things have stabilized since the debates, and the constant media melt=down still_one Oct 2012 #12
I think it is a function of the fact that he weighs on party id Godhumor Oct 2012 #11
which either means that O is up by 2-3, or Rasmussen is being more accurate magical thyme Oct 2012 #5
What were his pre-debate numbers? Alekei_Firebird Oct 2012 #6
Good to see Obama leading Nationally in Rasmussen again TroyD Oct 2012 #14
Rasmussen weights by party ID, which frequently damps out bounces that appear in other polls Marsala Oct 2012 #15
And For That Reason Most Or All Of The Movement In Rasmussen's Polls Come From Indys DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #17
Interesting. I thought pollsters weren't supposed to weight by party ID. Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #18
I still hate the back and forth of it all. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #19
Up in Rassmussen but down in Gallup and Reuters? budkin Oct 2012 #20
 

GusFring

(756 posts)
7. you would think by now people would've learned nothing is certain.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:54 AM
Oct 2012

Doesnt help to say Romney isnt winning Ohio. You dont know that.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
16. But he isn't. Not saying he can't but
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:21 PM
Oct 2012

the early voting results are not in his favor. There would have to be the mother of all comebacks AND stealing for him to
win. Obama has what 120 offices to R's 38 in OH. So there's no 'jinx' in saying Romney's chances don't look good, they haven't looked for OH, well, EVER. Funny how this week has become the new normal. You'd think the election started a week ago.

CanonRay

(14,111 posts)
21. Romney is NOT winning Ohio
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 06:19 PM
Oct 2012

People there hate the governor, his approval rating is down with the former VP. Sherrod Brown is completely kicking ass. Last poll, I believe it was the R leaning Rassmussen, had Obama up 7%. I may not "know" it, but I'm 99.9% certain.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
3. I have to say Ras has seemed to fair in the days after the debate
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:39 AM
Oct 2012

in both state and national polling. I don't know if it will last or if he has decided to change his model to a more accurate one, but I'll take it.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
9. For me it's the stability.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:04 AM
Oct 2012

Ras isn't showing some of the weird wild swings. The lead has shifted back and forth, but it shifts in a logical way. That's how I see it, anyway.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
10. yes, I think that is it. Even some of there state polls while they don't give
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:05 AM
Oct 2012

Obama a big lead is actually showing improvement from their previous polling numbers.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
13. Strangely, their swing state numbers give Romney the edge.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:22 AM
Oct 2012

Funny, because for the past few days, most of our good news has been Obama's hold on the swing states, while the national numbers dropped. But Ras is showing the opposite: Obama's climbed back to a slim lead in the national number, while Romney is holding a slim lead in their swing state numbers.

As I said yesterday, I wish I knew what they used to get their swing state numbers. It seems that Obama leads in most of them via Ras's own polls. He lists the swing states as Colorado, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Pennsylvania (all with Obama ahead in Ras polls); followed by Florida, N.C. and Va. (all with Romney ahead); with two ties in NH and Nevada.

How on earth, when you look at those totals in the electoral college does Romney have a 1 point edge? Especially when he's actually got Pa. and Michigan blue on his map, with Romney's all in purple (and with Missouri showing up purple according to his map).

Anyway, I'm sure there's some kind of methodology since it's a daily poll somehow, but I'm flummoxed as to how he comes to his swing state numbers. Anyone have any insight?

still_one

(92,286 posts)
12. Definitely it looks like things have stabilized since the debates, and the constant media melt=down
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:14 AM
Oct 2012

on it


Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
11. I think it is a function of the fact that he weighs on party id
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

From what I've seen and read, since he uses it s a weight he misses a lot of the overall population trends...he didn't show big convention swings, big 47% swing or a big post-debate swing.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
5. which either means that O is up by 2-3, or Rasmussen is being more accurate
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:46 AM
Oct 2012

as we get closer to the end in order to not look skewed.

I'm expecting (and praying) that the more the good jobs numbers hit, the more things swing back to Pres O. We had last weeks good jobs report, today's good unemployment filings report. I think in another week or two the jobs report from last week will be corrected, and is to expected to be corrected upward. That will make 3 good jobs reports in a row on front page in the MSM.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
14. Good to see Obama leading Nationally in Rasmussen again
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oct 2012

And it must have upset the Freepers this morning!

Only question I have is that in the report above, Rasmussen claims that after rising be a large amount on Friday after the Jobs Report, consumer confidence has quickly come back down to where it was before.

I hope that's not true. We need to see polling data to back that up from other firms to see whether that is valid.

If it IS the case, then Obama & Joe need to get the message out every day that they have kept their promise and lowered unemployment below 8%!!!!!!

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
15. Rasmussen weights by party ID, which frequently damps out bounces that appear in other polls
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:15 PM
Oct 2012

Usually it has benefited Romney in Rasmussen's poll, but now it's working for Obama.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
18. Interesting. I thought pollsters weren't supposed to weight by party ID.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:01 PM
Oct 2012

I thought they were only supposed to control for things like race and gender.

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