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restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:05 AM Feb 2016

i am soooooo glad trump is winning...it completely screws up the establishment plan

did i say i LIKE trump? no.

but the ptb had hatched a nice little plan....prop a weak and unelectable candidate under federal investigation up on the dem side, get her the nom at all costs, no matter how much rigging has to be done.

meanwhile, the repubs would put up a puppet on their side, probably with the boy wonder (no doubt they really wanted jeb! but that did not work out)

and if hillary wins the ge, then great..first female president AND someone who will play ball with money interests. and if she loses? no big....the gopE winner would ALSO play ball with wall st.

and of course the most important objective is achieved...keeping bernie OUT of the wh

except along comes donald trump...self funded, not willing to be anyone's patsy, and completely unelectable vs bernie but will trounce hillary in a ge

so what is the dem establishment to do now? they can't keep stalling this investigstion, smearing bernie, or hoping that people will suddenly like hillary.

if they continue to rig for hillary, they will screw themselves with president trump. they just might now be seeing reality, and the need to get behind a candidate who can beat him.........

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i am soooooo glad trump is winning...it completely screws up the establishment plan (Original Post) restorefreedom Feb 2016 OP
inb4 the fearmongers show up. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #1
. Agschmid Feb 2016 #5
Yep. The 1% win either way. It's the rest of us that will suffer. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #2
This could be the year the comedians of America win big. Vinca Feb 2016 #3
And the year that Rage Against the Machine starts touring again. n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #6
YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! timber84 Feb 2016 #9
Although to be fair VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #10
I think we are foolish to wish for Trump as our GE adversary. Agschmid Feb 2016 #4
he is the easiest for bernie to beat restorefreedom Feb 2016 #11
I don't agree with that assessment. Agschmid Feb 2016 #12
ok. what part, that he is the easist to beat? restorefreedom Feb 2016 #15
That he is the easiest to beat. Agschmid Feb 2016 #22
hmmmm. interesting. if he keeps sweeping states like he has been, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #23
Never underestimate the gullibility of the electorate TheUndecider Feb 2016 #19
You seem to have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump leftofcool Feb 2016 #7
um, 44 % of latino vote in nv against two hispanic candiates for trump restorefreedom Feb 2016 #13
An analysis based on historically supported "conventional wisdom"can lead to surprising outcomes. Skwmom Feb 2016 #17
The dem establishment seems unaware that she is unelectable against him. They're that out of touch. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #8
Ain't a damn thing funny about that racist SOB MuttLikeMe Feb 2016 #14
he will be the easiest for bernie to beat. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #16
I sure hope so. :( MuttLikeMe Feb 2016 #18
the question is whether hillary can but that wlll be tough restorefreedom Feb 2016 #21
I am not Trump is the most dangerous doc03 Feb 2016 #20
one good thing about a trump presidency: no tpp. i keep trying to remind myself that. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #26
Honest Question: Can Trump carry both OH and PA? apnu Feb 2016 #24
i think ohio is a better bet for him restorefreedom Feb 2016 #27
Trump is breaking voter turnout records. Our candidates are not. Don't celebrate yet. If we choose a Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #25
the antiestablishment candidate will win the ge restorefreedom Feb 2016 #28
This^ Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #29
FIle this under: Becareful what you wish for. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #30
thst is true. bit if hillary is the nominee, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #31
Everyone except a decades-long serving white CongressMan is the establishment to you guys. LexVegas Feb 2016 #32

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
1. inb4 the fearmongers show up.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:06 AM
Feb 2016

But maybe that's what they deserve for trying to rig the game. Things get worse before they ever get better. They got theirs, why should they care? Meanwhile, I'm gonna be an American apologist for the next eight years until I can expatriate.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
10. Although to be fair
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:45 AM
Feb 2016

Zack De La Rocha collabed on a track with Run The Jewels (Killer Mike and Glitch Mob's EL-P); so maybe he can just link up with them

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
11. he is the easiest for bernie to beat
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:03 AM
Feb 2016

hillary does not beat any of them, so that is a bit of a moot point

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
23. hmmmm. interesting. if he keeps sweeping states like he has been,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016

i might have to agree with that, although i still worry about rubio more right now.

 

TheUndecider

(93 posts)
19. Never underestimate the gullibility of the electorate
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:23 AM
Feb 2016

Trump scares the hell out of me, he's almost as bad as Cruz

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
7. You seem to have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

You do realize that no one and I mean no one can win an election in this country without the AA and Latino vote, right? You really think Trump will get that. You think once Obama puts his GOTV plan in action for Hillary that it won't resonate? And just for the record, Hillary herself is not under "federal investigation." The State Department as well as the FBI has said as much. What is under investigation is the way material is classified, material that is handled through the State Department.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. um, 44 % of latino vote in nv against two hispanic candiates for trump
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:07 AM
Feb 2016

and there is a lot more to the investigation than emails, but i don't really want to argue that point.

i don't have any confidence in trump, its not me, its the people who are rejecting establishment cronyism and favoratism in politics

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
17. An analysis based on historically supported "conventional wisdom"can lead to surprising outcomes.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:09 AM
Feb 2016

Devastating outcomes. Though, this is a common fallacy.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
8. The dem establishment seems unaware that she is unelectable against him. They're that out of touch.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

If it were not for that I'd be happy about it too.

MuttLikeMe

(279 posts)
18. I sure hope so. :(
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:22 AM
Feb 2016

Cuz if Trump wins me and all the rest of the poor black folk are being sent back to the plantation and I'm not even playing

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
21. the question is whether hillary can but that wlll be tough
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:25 AM
Feb 2016

and yes, trump not gonna be kind to many minorities..

doc03

(35,345 posts)
20. I am not Trump is the most dangerous
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:25 AM
Feb 2016

person running on either side. He will be the next president unless someone can figure a way to
to take him out so far nothing hurts him. He even gets in war with the Pope and wins.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
24. Honest Question: Can Trump carry both OH and PA?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

There is no path to victory for the GOP with out them.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
27. i think ohio is a better bet for him
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

but i would not rule out PA and the working class folks who love him.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
25. Trump is breaking voter turnout records. Our candidates are not. Don't celebrate yet. If we choose a
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:01 PM
Feb 2016

nominee who is not trusted by the independent voters and who seems to be in the pocket of her corporate supporters and won't even tell the voters what she whispered in the ear of her corporate sponsors and who tries to push a status quo establishment agenda versus Trump's "tell it like it is/I'm not beholden to anyone" bullshit, we lose.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
28. the antiestablishment candidate will win the ge
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016

if its both (sanders v trump), then its a wash, and it looks good for bernie. but if it is trump v clinton, it will be a trump landslide.

we have to make sure bernie is the nom

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
31. thst is true. bit if hillary is the nominee,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

rubio or cruz will also be president and possibly worse than trump, as amazing as that is.

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