2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMy Super Tuesday Delegate estimate
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Vermont: Sanders 80% (15) Clinton 20% (3)
Massachusetts: Sanders 54% (49) Clinton 46% (42)
Minnesota: Sanders 55% (43) Clinton 45% (34)
Oklahoma: Sanders 51% (20) Clinton 49% (18)
Colorado: Sanders 51% (34) Clinton 49% (32)
Texas: Clinton 70% (155) Sanders 30% (67)
Virginia: Clinton 58% (56) Sanders 46% (39)
Georgia: Clinton 60% (60) Sanders 40% (40)
Alabama: Clinton 58% (32) Sanders 42% (21)
Arkansas Clinton 58% (19) Sanders 42% (13)
Tennessee: Clinton 60% (41) Sanders 40% (26)
Total Delegates: Clinton: 497, Sanders: 367
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)HillDawg
(198 posts)this is probably on the generous side for Sanders.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Hillary's favor.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
brooklynite
(94,596 posts)DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)I'm not sure what numbers you actually mean in Virginia (those percentages add up to 104) and I think Bernie might make a push to close the Texas gap some owing to that poll out today that has him down 10.
I think Minnesota and Tennessee might be closer too.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)It's the proportional allocation of delegates that are hurting his chances for the nomination.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Look at that list in the OP, and imagine if Bernie got 100% of the delegates from his wins, and Hillary got 100% from hers. Bernie would end up a lot further back.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)If Hillary wins big in the Southern states on Super Tuesday, it will be difficult for Bernie to catch up. Bernie seems to have stepped away from those states.
But who knows?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)And TX and VA will be closer.
What's funny is thinking back to your predictions that Bernie would only win one state, lol.
brooklynite
(94,596 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Nor do I remember anyone with any credibility making such claim.
Good to see you have honed your predictions some.
brooklynite
(94,596 posts)...and in fact I stated early on I gave him 40% odds of winning New Hampshire.
The reference to Vermont was in response to asking a Sanders supporter which specific States he/she thought Sanders would win. I never gave a judgement on any other locations.
brooklynite
(94,596 posts)jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Vermont is his home state and he is liked there.
However, I expect a near-total blowout in Texas - the only large area that leans toward his style of governance is Austin.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I've looked at these individual races, but I haven't listed it out on one page, as you have.
It's fascinating to contemplate that this will go down in a matter of days.
Isn't Texas closer? Last I heard/read there was a 10-point different, with HRC in the lead.
As a Sanders supporter, I don't agree with some of your assessments, but it's evident that so much will happen on March 1; and also on March 5th.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)We will see how it works out.
Interesting post thanks.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Then it'd be a great day for Sanders. We all know Hillary has the edge on Super Tuesday so if they almost split the states and end up reasonably close in delegates then that's a win.
brooklynite
(94,596 posts)Add to which, that doesn't include what Clinton will pick up in SC on Saturday.
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)it's late, so those numbers could be wrong..
Still plenty of time and the progressive west yet to weigh in... gonna be close...California could be huuuuge !
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)brooklynite
(94,596 posts)Northeast, South, Midwest, West
White, Black, Asian, Hispanic
Young, Middle Aged, Senior
If Sanders can't cobble together a majority in the 10 States voting on Tuesday, where will he in the future?
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)And the ones the Bernie is likely to win are Mass, Colorado, Oklahoma, Minnesota, and Vermont. None of which are in the southeast. One could argue this is an indication of how poorly Hillary will do across the rest of the country after March 1st.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Bernie math of course.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Super Tuesday has not been expected to be especially kind to him. Later contests favor him more. The way I see it, his goal for the next couple of weeks is to stay within striking distance and avoid the perception of a blow-out. Your proposed delegate count for him is not at all terrible, from that perspective.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)texas and virginia will much closer imo
and i think hillary will get 1 delegate in vermont, at best.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Certainly not a crushing defeat or enough to slow Bernie down.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I can't say for sure, but we'll know next Tuesday night. I predict it will go for Hillary narrowly, once the caucuses are over. I'm not sure where the prediction that Sanders will win comes from, really.
I'm here. I'm seeing a Clinton win in Minnesota, but I could be wrong.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Very even-handed analysis.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Anybody else see that one?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)with that result.
oasis
(49,389 posts)even handed distribution.
HappyinLA
(129 posts)with your predictions
This would leave the race as HRC 1006 to BS 477. HRC would have 42% of the delegates needed to win, BS would have 20%.
At this point 1483 delegates would have been accounted for, leaving 3280 up for grabs.
In order for BS to win, he'll need 1905 delegates, which roughly means winning every remaining contest with 58% of the vote. For HRC, she would need to win 1376 delegates, or every contest with 42% of the vote.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)I think if you are a Bernie supporter this is his best case scenario for Super Tuesday. Because all delegates are awarded proportionally, all delegate leads are tough to overcome.
Any delegate lead for Clinton bigger than this, and the Bernie camp is doomed. Clinton will only need roughly 40 percent of the vote in the remaining states and Sanders will never catch up.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Michigan (3/8) and, on 3/15, Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina and Ohio.
A total of 940 delegates, of which Clinton is likely to pick up at least 500. Call it about a grand for Clinton, in toto.
That's pretty much a done deal.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)I bet she gets close to 500.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I'm looking forward to seeing how well you did!
hill2016
(1,772 posts)for next week
brooklynite
(94,596 posts)New poll suggests Texas will be closer to 70/30