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brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:23 AM Feb 2016

My Super Tuesday Delegate estimate

Last edited Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:36 AM - Edit history (1)

Vermont: Sanders 80% (15) Clinton 20% (3)
Massachusetts: Sanders 54% (49) Clinton 46% (42)
Minnesota: Sanders 55% (43) Clinton 45% (34)
Oklahoma: Sanders 51% (20) Clinton 49% (18)
Colorado: Sanders 51% (34) Clinton 49% (32)

Texas: Clinton 70% (155) Sanders 30% (67)
Virginia: Clinton 58% (56) Sanders 46% (39)
Georgia: Clinton 60% (60) Sanders 40% (40)
Alabama: Clinton 58% (32) Sanders 42% (21)
Arkansas Clinton 58% (19) Sanders 42% (13)
Tennessee: Clinton 60% (41) Sanders 40% (26)

Total Delegates: Clinton: 497, Sanders: 367

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My Super Tuesday Delegate estimate (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2016 OP
I think Hillary will win Oklahoma and possibly Colorado leftofcool Feb 2016 #1
Thanks brook, she is gaining and will get to the ultimate goal of the presidency. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #2
And, honestly.. HillDawg Feb 2016 #3
That was my thought as well. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #18
Particularly when you consider that a huge South Carolina win will move the numbers in stevenleser Feb 2016 #39
What is your delegate prediction for the SC primary? NT Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #4
Clinton 33, Sanders 20 brooklynite Feb 2016 #7
That's a fairly reasonable prediction DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #5
Bernie will win some states. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #24
On the contrary, I think proportional allocation is HELPING Sanders, at least at this point. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #37
May be right so far. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #40
I think Hillary will be shut out in VT. morningfog Feb 2016 #6
About as funny as the folks who claimed Sanders would win all 50 States, huh? brooklynite Feb 2016 #8
I certainly never made such a silly claim. morningfog Feb 2016 #11
I never claimed Sanders would win only one State... brooklynite Feb 2016 #13
Sorry - VA should be 58 Clinton / 42 Sanders brooklynite Feb 2016 #9
I don't think she'll be shut out, but if she goes over 10 percent I'll be surprised jmowreader Feb 2016 #42
Under 15% she gets no delegates from the state. morningfog Feb 2016 #44
This is very interesting... CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #10
Cool workinclasszero Feb 2016 #12
If that turns out to be accurate HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #14
You consider +100 to be "reasonably close"? brooklynite Feb 2016 #15
After super tuesday I believe we will still have 4/5 of the primary left to go... or 80% but berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #16
Out of the 2400 needed to get the nomination, yeah. HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #17
But Super Tuesday will be a reflection of voters around the Country brooklynite Feb 2016 #19
Actually most Super Tuesday states are from the Southeast HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #20
You consider +100 to be "reasonably close"? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #28
I agree, this isn't a bad outcome for Sanders. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #38
for the most part, i think this is pretty close... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #21
A fair estimate--though I think it may be a bit closer. panader0 Feb 2016 #22
Minnesota may not turn out to be a win for Bernie Sanders. MineralMan Feb 2016 #23
Thanks for your estimates and please post your changes as ST nears. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #25
I think I saw a poll recently, on DU, that had her ahead in Mass. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #26
Nate Silver has Hillary at 77% to win OK nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #27
Bernie would be thrilled Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #29
Reasonable and well thought out. oasis Feb 2016 #30
nice, here's a little back of the envelope math HappyinLA Feb 2016 #31
Good post. aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #32
Followed soon after by... OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #33
Yeah, it doesn't get any easier for the Bernster. DCBob Feb 2016 #36
Thank you for putting the numbers together ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #34
I think you are being way too generous to Bernie.. DCBob Feb 2016 #35
Thank you for putting this together! Lucinda Feb 2016 #41
bookmark hill2016 Feb 2016 #43
UPDATE: My estimate is now Clinton: 497, Sanders: 367 brooklynite Feb 2016 #45
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
39. Particularly when you consider that a huge South Carolina win will move the numbers in
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:40 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary's favor.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
5. That's a fairly reasonable prediction
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:34 AM
Feb 2016

I'm not sure what numbers you actually mean in Virginia (those percentages add up to 104) and I think Bernie might make a push to close the Texas gap some owing to that poll out today that has him down 10.

I think Minnesota and Tennessee might be closer too.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
24. Bernie will win some states.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:37 AM
Feb 2016

It's the proportional allocation of delegates that are hurting his chances for the nomination.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
37. On the contrary, I think proportional allocation is HELPING Sanders, at least at this point.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:03 PM
Feb 2016

Look at that list in the OP, and imagine if Bernie got 100% of the delegates from his wins, and Hillary got 100% from hers. Bernie would end up a lot further back.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
40. May be right so far.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:20 PM
Feb 2016

If Hillary wins big in the Southern states on Super Tuesday, it will be difficult for Bernie to catch up. Bernie seems to have stepped away from those states.

But who knows?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. I think Hillary will be shut out in VT.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:35 AM
Feb 2016

And TX and VA will be closer.

What's funny is thinking back to your predictions that Bernie would only win one state, lol.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
11. I certainly never made such a silly claim.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:57 AM
Feb 2016

Nor do I remember anyone with any credibility making such claim.

Good to see you have honed your predictions some.

brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
13. I never claimed Sanders would win only one State...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:00 AM
Feb 2016

...and in fact I stated early on I gave him 40% odds of winning New Hampshire.

The reference to Vermont was in response to asking a Sanders supporter which specific States he/she thought Sanders would win. I never gave a judgement on any other locations.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
42. I don't think she'll be shut out, but if she goes over 10 percent I'll be surprised
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:44 PM
Feb 2016

Vermont is his home state and he is liked there.

However, I expect a near-total blowout in Texas - the only large area that leans toward his style of governance is Austin.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
10. This is very interesting...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:40 AM
Feb 2016

I've looked at these individual races, but I haven't listed it out on one page, as you have.

It's fascinating to contemplate that this will go down in a matter of days.

Isn't Texas closer? Last I heard/read there was a 10-point different, with HRC in the lead.

As a Sanders supporter, I don't agree with some of your assessments, but it's evident that so much will happen on March 1; and also on March 5th.







 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
14. If that turns out to be accurate
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:01 AM
Feb 2016

Then it'd be a great day for Sanders. We all know Hillary has the edge on Super Tuesday so if they almost split the states and end up reasonably close in delegates then that's a win.

brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
15. You consider +100 to be "reasonably close"?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:04 AM
Feb 2016

Add to which, that doesn't include what Clinton will pick up in SC on Saturday.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
16. After super tuesday I believe we will still have 4/5 of the primary left to go... or 80% but
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

it's late, so those numbers could be wrong..

Still plenty of time and the progressive west yet to weigh in... gonna be close...California could be huuuuge !

brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
19. But Super Tuesday will be a reflection of voters around the Country
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:05 AM
Feb 2016

Northeast, South, Midwest, West

White, Black, Asian, Hispanic

Young, Middle Aged, Senior

If Sanders can't cobble together a majority in the 10 States voting on Tuesday, where will he in the future?

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
20. Actually most Super Tuesday states are from the Southeast
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:08 AM
Feb 2016

And the ones the Bernie is likely to win are Mass, Colorado, Oklahoma, Minnesota, and Vermont. None of which are in the southeast. One could argue this is an indication of how poorly Hillary will do across the rest of the country after March 1st.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
38. I agree, this isn't a bad outcome for Sanders.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

Super Tuesday has not been expected to be especially kind to him. Later contests favor him more. The way I see it, his goal for the next couple of weeks is to stay within striking distance and avoid the perception of a blow-out. Your proposed delegate count for him is not at all terrible, from that perspective.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
21. for the most part, i think this is pretty close...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016

texas and virginia will much closer imo

and i think hillary will get 1 delegate in vermont, at best.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
22. A fair estimate--though I think it may be a bit closer.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

Certainly not a crushing defeat or enough to slow Bernie down.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. Minnesota may not turn out to be a win for Bernie Sanders.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:32 AM
Feb 2016

I can't say for sure, but we'll know next Tuesday night. I predict it will go for Hillary narrowly, once the caucuses are over. I'm not sure where the prediction that Sanders will win comes from, really.

I'm here. I'm seeing a Clinton win in Minnesota, but I could be wrong.

HappyinLA

(129 posts)
31. nice, here's a little back of the envelope math
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:52 AM
Feb 2016

with your predictions

This would leave the race as HRC 1006 to BS 477. HRC would have 42% of the delegates needed to win, BS would have 20%.

At this point 1483 delegates would have been accounted for, leaving 3280 up for grabs.

In order for BS to win, he'll need 1905 delegates, which roughly means winning every remaining contest with 58% of the vote. For HRC, she would need to win 1376 delegates, or every contest with 42% of the vote.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
32. Good post.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016

I think if you are a Bernie supporter this is his best case scenario for Super Tuesday. Because all delegates are awarded proportionally, all delegate leads are tough to overcome.

Any delegate lead for Clinton bigger than this, and the Bernie camp is doomed. Clinton will only need roughly 40 percent of the vote in the remaining states and Sanders will never catch up.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
33. Followed soon after by...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:24 PM
Feb 2016

Michigan (3/8) and, on 3/15, Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina and Ohio.

A total of 940 delegates, of which Clinton is likely to pick up at least 500. Call it about a grand for Clinton, in toto.

That's pretty much a done deal.

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