2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary seems quite proud of her way of dealing with the transcript issue!
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I don't think it's the winning strategy she thinks it is...
Merryland
(1,134 posts)It's remarkable.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)Running the Dodge division.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)How bloodly stupid does her campaign have to be to not realize this trap???
Release the transcripts and take your lumps now... don't wait for it to become a FULL GENERAL ELECTION ISSUE!
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)She learned from the master.
using a conservative attack.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)It matters to very few people within the primary and won't mean anything in the general election
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She still needs Bernie supporters to win, and we won't forget.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)that she admits the Republicans also do--and that Bernie doesn't do?
I find that enlightening. She's just like the worst corporatist Republicans!
If that's not a big ad for Bernie-and for dumping these sell-out, Pez dispenser politicians who are owned by Wall Street--I don't know what is!
Hillary: "The Republicans do it too!"
Me: "That's the problem, crazy! You're just like them!"
JudyM
(29,251 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)or is she so inside the bubble she can't see it?!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I don't think she thought this one through.
Look at the Wall Street fund-raiser her campaign organized a few days ago--the one where Mook was taking advice from Wall Streeters about which talking points the Clinton camp should disseminate in the coming days.
It's mind blowing that they would allow a reporter from the New York Times inside that room while all of this was happening.
It really is bizarre.
These candidates are human. They make mistakes. Perhaps she was speaking on the fly and didn't think through the angles.
SDJay
(1,089 posts)or is it hubris? I'm not sure.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)She gives me the feeling that she's not engaged. I get the feeling that she's in shock that she is doing so badly, it's so unexpected. She is totally out of touch and so is her campaign.
Bernie is going to take this unless they steal it.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)And I'm sure her momma told her "Just because so and so does this and that doesn't make it right for you to do it". She should have listened to her momma.
840high
(17,196 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)She is not yet formally battling the Republicans, nor is there any real expectation that a Republican would be clean or transparent.
For me, another way of judging her effectiveness is to take her at her word. SHE went to Wall Street in 2008 and told them to "cut it out". And she has gone back. So, HOW SUCCESSFUL has she been with her message? Not at all, by all accounts. So what is this record she is touting?
Arazi
(6,829 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)The mod. got smacked by the wickedly smart Hillary. The audience does not care about the transcripts. Simple as that. And they certainly do not care about the double standard being applied to her by the moderator --and Bernie.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)We care about transcripts, no transcripts, no vote.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)You either don't have a clue about what you are saying or you are totally dishonest.
artislife
(9,497 posts)They could have been stacked as well.
earthside
(6,960 posts)... Nixonian.
More and more I'm thinking Hillary is just plain weird.
What in the world do the Repuglican candidates for that party's presidential nomination have to do with what Democrats are asking from the Democratic candidates?
Tricky Dick weird.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)It is very ineffective.
840high
(17,196 posts)buggy.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Cuomo says: Earlier tonight, I asked Senator Sanders will you give your transcripts of speeches. That is what you said when the others give I'll give. He said he doesn't...(skip).....the bank speeches. IF he can find any speeches he did give for money he will gladly give the transcripts up.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)As a matter of fact, if they boosted her claim of being tough on the banksters, they'd have been released long ago.
She's as phony as a check from ted cruz.
jillan
(39,451 posts)"why meeeeee" talking point.