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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:01 PM Feb 2016

Bernie is a Yuuuuuge MENSCH

Watching him on the CNN Town Hall, for some reason, that came across really strongly -- stronger than I've seen before..

Always been a fan of Bernie, his views, his honesty and a connoisseur of Angry Bernie.

But beyind that -- when it comes to being a HUMAN BEING -- He's the Real Deal. (You can't fake that.)



Mensch (Yiddish: מענטש? mentsh, cognate with German: Mensch "human being&quot means "a person of integrity and honor."[1] The opposite of a "mensch" is an "unmensch" (meaning: an utterly unlikeable or unfriendly person). According to Leo Rosten, the Yiddish maven and author of The Joys of Yiddish, "mensch" is "someone to admire and emulate, someone of noble character. The key to being 'a real mensch' is nothing less than character, rectitude, dignity, a sense of what is right, responsible, decorous."[2] The term is used as a high compliment, expressing the rarity and value of that individual's qualities.

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Bernie is a Yuuuuuge MENSCH (Original Post) Armstead Feb 2016 OP
Agreed...and the crowd was so cold at first and he had them worked up by the end... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #1
I watched... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #3
I couldn't keep the TV on..I tried but just couldn't Armstead Feb 2016 #4
There... There... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #5
Nah I said that in a cranky way...Don't need a hug..Thanks though Armstead Feb 2016 #6
I knew that... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #8
A menschy thing to do Armstead Feb 2016 #10
The Hillary portion of the show. I always try to give it a shot but dinkytron Feb 2016 #24
The Hillary portion was basically pouring another whiskey sour or just taking shots 15min in n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #40
I use it for bathroom breaks. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #41
Absolutely! highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #2
Yuuuuge. mmonk Feb 2016 #7
That is why I shake my head when they say another messenger can just pick up his message. Skwmom Feb 2016 #9
Then I love that mensch. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #11
K&R This is for you: Live and Learn Feb 2016 #12
Fran Drescher Style Rap? Armstead Feb 2016 #13
Good description. I love that one. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #15
Yo Dahhhhling! Armstead Feb 2016 #17
I can see my house from that video! Matariki Feb 2016 #21
yes indeed AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #14
And always was. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #16
I felt the same way. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #18
A real Mensch people Feb 2016 #19
Bernie's heart: Donkees Feb 2016 #20
Gotta love the Sand Man! Don Draper Feb 2016 #22
K&R CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #23
Never heard the word "unmensch" elljay Feb 2016 #25
Is there a nonmensch too? Armstead Feb 2016 #27
oysgetseykhnt Donkees Feb 2016 #33
That's it! elljay Feb 2016 #38
That word was waiting for Bernie :) Donkees Feb 2016 #47
Here goes- elljay Feb 2016 #48
He is truly excellent man! Donkees Feb 2016 #49
Bernie does well with town hall forums Orange Butterfly Feb 2016 #26
Agreed, I thought he really connected Mufaddal Feb 2016 #28
Actually hillary got it worse Armstead Feb 2016 #30
Thanks for letting me know! Mufaddal Feb 2016 #32
Yes He Is - Thankfully cantbeserious Feb 2016 #29
There is no better word for Bernie than that. hifiguy Feb 2016 #31
I watched the town hall avidly. I was thoroughly moved by Sanders answer mikehiggins Feb 2016 #34
I think the questions was trying to get at "Do you believe in God?" Armstead Feb 2016 #39
Whatta Mensch! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #36
Did people see Bernie shut down his audience in Virginia today when they started booing Hillary? BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #37
I was literally a city over VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #43
Beautiful... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #44
I do feel the same way --- but /and kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #42
That's the nature of politics is glorifying candidates Armstead Feb 2016 #45
He is staying in his life size, which is large without fake. I hope he stays that way... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #46
 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
1. Agreed...and the crowd was so cold at first and he had them worked up by the end...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

I just hope people were watching...

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
3. I watched...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:04 PM
Feb 2016

I'm making myself watch HRC now.

I'm pretty sure I don't sense the same thing coming from Hillary.

Again.... "I, I, I, I.... "Me Me Me Me"

dinkytron

(568 posts)
24. The Hillary portion of the show. I always try to give it a shot but
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:49 PM
Feb 2016

it always ends up being the part of the show that I run to the refreshment stand. Its just boring.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
9. That is why I shake my head when they say another messenger can just pick up his message.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:12 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie has integrity and he believes passionately in what he is fighting for. He is a good and kind soul but tough.

Some people mistakenly think that if you have these attributes it will make you weak. But they are wrong.

people

(625 posts)
19. A real Mensch
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

Agree so much. Bernie looked a little down to me tonight but he was such a mensch --- clearly was speaking from his heart. I think he is a unique and wonderful person. Completely agree with your post.

Don Draper

(187 posts)
22. Gotta love the Sand Man!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

Unlike Hillary who is motivated by power, self interest & greed, Bernie is motivated by fighting injustice. It's in his dna

elljay

(1,178 posts)
25. Never heard the word "unmensch"
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:57 PM
Feb 2016

In my semi-Yiddish speaking mishpocha. There are certain Yiddish words that exist, but are rarely if ever used. Unmensch is one. "Excellent" is another. I remember our coming across this strange word in Yiddish class and everybody, including the fluent instructor, being stumped. When we looked it up and found out it meant "excellent," we had a good laugh. None of us had heard that word before!

"Dad, I got into Harvard!" "So you couldn't get into Stanford?"
"Mom, I just made ten million dollars!" "Mrs Goldberg's son Joel, the dentist, made a billion dollars from inventing a new toothbrush."

I still can't remember the word for excellent. Gotta look it up again!



elljay

(1,178 posts)
38. That's it!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:36 AM
Feb 2016

Unfortunately, since I'll never have the opportunity to use it, I will surely forget again.

 

Orange Butterfly

(205 posts)
26. Bernie does well with town hall forums
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:05 AM
Feb 2016

I think Bernie is actually an introvert.

Town hall forums are more comfortable for him.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
28. Agreed, I thought he really connected
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:10 AM
Feb 2016

Ironically TYT seemed to feel that everything I considered a strong point was a weak point tonight, but whatever.

What was weird was the spirituality question. Cuomo basically said, "You've been asked Question X and given Answer Y. Let me ask you Question X again." What the heck was that?

Anyway, I thought the response was fantastic and incredibly moving, more than in the past.

It was also lousy to give Hillary free air time for her ad, disguised in the form of a question. He could have just as easily asked, "You've been accused of being a single issue candidate, how do you respond?"

I didn't watch all of Hillary's portion, but I'm sort of guessing they didn't play any of Bernie's ads and asking for a response. Correct me if I'm wrong though, and I'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
30. Actually hillary got it worse
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016

They subjected her to Steven Colbert monologue about thecdid you lie question

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
32. Thanks for letting me know!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

Then I am indeed pleasantly surprised. Had to make dinner so I only caught the very end of her portion and that was only via the audio on TYT.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
31. There is no better word for Bernie than that.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

It's perfect. He's a genuinely good man. And you don't have to be perfect to be a real mensch.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
34. I watched the town hall avidly. I was thoroughly moved by Sanders answer
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:51 AM
Feb 2016

to the religion question. As soon as Cuomo started down that road I thought there was some sort of "gotcha" coming up, like Moses would show up to endorse HRC, but Sanders knocked the question right out of the park. Incredible.

Also incredible was his remark about how the opposition to Obama was nothing less than racism. I know we know that's true but that's the kind of thing people just don't say on national television. Sanders also pointed out that even though he was the son of a Polish immigrant and running for president nobody ever asked to see his birth certificate. He pointed to his wrist and said maybe that was because of his skin color.

To me it was like Trump the Chump calling out Bush for lying our way into Iraq.

Hillary did very well, IMHO, though I didn't care for her pointing out some of her supporters in the audience. I especially didn't care for her calculated use of the women whose kids had been killed by cops and thugs.

However, many people know that HRC is at her best when she's under a lot of pressure. I think Cuomo was surprisingly not-on-her-side tonight. Too much to hope CNN is trying to pass for honest journalism though. As soon as they could they switched over the GOPuke debacle.

I really think Trump the Chump is going to end up their nominee. Amazing.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
39. I think the questions was trying to get at "Do you believe in God?"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:44 AM
Feb 2016

Like ya gotta believe in God to be President.

Bernie didn't take the bait.

Response to Armstead (Original post)

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
37. Did people see Bernie shut down his audience in Virginia today when they started booing Hillary?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:51 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie was talking about an issue and said something like "here's an issue where Secretary Clinton and I disagree." Some in the crowd started to boo at the mention of her name and Bernie immediately started shaking his head no, threw up his arms and said something like "no, we're not going to do that. I have known Secretary Clinton for a long time and respect her and like her, and we're not going to do that." The boos vanished immediately and there was applause for Bernie for cutting it off.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
43. I was literally a city over
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:59 AM
Feb 2016

Was sitting in Dental when it came on CNN that he was in Norfolk, and I'm pissed that I couldn't see him!

kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)
42. I do feel the same way --- but /and
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:59 AM
Feb 2016

I hesitate to glorify anyone. I like how he is in his actual self. Happy that we have him as a politician.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
45. That's the nature of politics is glorifying candidates
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:02 AM
Feb 2016

But in a realistic way, hopefully.

Bernie is also a grumpy old crank, not perfect....But he's a mensch, much more so than anyone else on either side of this race.

kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)
46. He is staying in his life size, which is large without fake. I hope he stays that way...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:48 AM
Feb 2016

A President has to project a vision for everyone to get inspired, etc but also s/he has to point to the right direction from the right motivation for the best possible way. Not from ego but for the good cause. --- One thing important is that we need to surround him closely after he is elected President so that he is not taken away from the real place he is standing right now.

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