2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOfficial Dem Town Hall Thread #2 of 2- 9-10 PM w/ Hillary @ CNN *Be nice to each other, please!!*
A thread for those of us to watch together and comment without rancor or insults. Let us give credit where it is due to both our candidates.
Will go to a second thread at 9Pm for the Hillary half. If you have no hate in your heart, please join in!
If you want to rip any Democrat to shreds, no popcorn or beer for you!
THREAD #1 IS HERE:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511321040
If anyone can help me track down links to watch it for FREE live, please let me know so I can add to this thread. Thanks in advance.
The two-hour broadcast will begin on CNN at 8 p.m.- 10 PM ET, with one hour for each candidate.
Also on: CNN en Español and CNN International.
Online: CNNgo will let people stream the whole thing as a "free preview"
http://www.cnn.com/CNNI/Programs/cnngo/
or maybe here? http://www.hulkusc.com/cnn-news-live-streaming/
CNN to Go is also an App.
Radio listeners: CNN's Sirius XM channel.
Will add other links as I find them- thanks!
The Redheaded Guy
(90 posts)They were very, very responsive of Bernie tonight.
I'd like to see how the audience deals with Clinton.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)nope, have to fight for every vote, 47 more contests.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)"If everybody else does it.... AND THAT INCLUDES REPUBLICANS!"
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...I can't believe she won't just release them.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)This is why voters don't trust you. Let's call it an artful dodge.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)The GOP is owned 100% by corporations. Does anyone doubt this? She is a Democrat running on reform. So yes I'm going to hold her to a higher standard than a Republican who is 100% in favor of unfettered capitalism.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)she should set the standard
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Gotta play the long game.
napi21
(45,806 posts)if Bernie releases his, that should trigger hers. Repubs aren't included in this discussion.
madokie
(51,076 posts)and he only had one that he was paid all of 500 bucks for and the money went directly to a charity. Never passed through Bernies hands. He's squeaky clean on this one.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I can't think of any candidate but HRC who did.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Special interests come in lots of flavors. I want to hear what the Republicans are saying to evangelists!!!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Wonder if it'll go anywhere (I'm not holding my breath)
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Good to see you here! Tks for keeping it chill!
PADemD
(4,482 posts)Did yours?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)now says there is a "double standard" about releasing the transcripts.
when she says everyone release them- she specifically means Republicans. Very good point.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)The GOP is owned 100% by the corporations. She's dodging the question because there is some damaging stuff in her speeches.
napi21
(45,806 posts)for the transcripts, and not the Pubs. Also, if Bernie is right, the only Pubs who would have to comply with her is Trump & Carson, because the others are current office holders and aren't permitted to do paid speeches. Who really cares about Trump's speeches, and Carson is not even a comma in the campaign.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)But I think it is true- if she is expected to, so should Donald, Rubio and the Cruz. That is fair.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...was a Clinton Foundation speech sponsored by a bank. Not the same as a speech where she is paid to provide motivation or advice to bank employees.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)MelSC
(256 posts)Is usually very respectful toward Hillary...I really do, he's a class act.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)It matters.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)detention center.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Talking with someone today about how Obama had people like Geitner around.
dogman
(6,073 posts)Belies her point IMO.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)But the first one ended up in agreement when we started rattling off all of the appointments that were not even liberal.
I still think Obama is a great president, including the obstruction. What he could have done. It's hard not to be resentful.
elleng
(130,964 posts)Is there a #1 thread???
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)What a stupid question...
We have high level security prisons doing this in all sorts of people's back yards already.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)It's so hard to choose among the people "given" to us.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)PBS commentators have always been a cut above, even if the corporation for public broadcasting got sucked into corporatism.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)with getting the first woman president. As a woman I so resented that.
napi21
(45,806 posts)detained in Max Security Prisons in the US. We have, and have had, lots of people who were every bit as dangerous as those in Gitmo. Many of the really bad ones have already been executed, but there are still many, many still in those facilities. Don't they think these facilities are secure? Or is it just another "Obama wants it so we don't?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)Obama wants it. I KNOW we all want it closed, the question was why are the Pubs fighting against it?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)They are like children.
votesparks
(1,288 posts)then you figure she would be eager to release her speeches to Wall Street firms, which would confirm that she was telling them to cut it out.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Less questions means less accountability.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Your propaganda won't work on me!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts):cheers:
nolabear
(41,984 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)-barriers stand in the way to achieving their dreams, systemic problems we need to be honest about...
justice, housing jobs, education and cultural problems.
Points toward five activist Moms who have lost children to gun violence....
We have to be honest and recognize we don't have the same experiences, but issues still need to be addressed.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)I think those cops suck. They protect the freakin' KKK so they can march.
unc70
(6,115 posts)She talked all around the topic trying to find something to say. Bringing up anything that might be remotely related. Police! Oh yeah! Let's talk about police. And talk, and talk.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)of Formation. Such a great song.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Is this Pop Culture Trivial Pursuit or the election for one of the most powerful positions on the planet??
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)And for doing the good work of keeping us all civil
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)She was also asked about Beyonce (and the police) and the role of reconciliation in healing the nation.
Heavy shit.
The Redheaded Guy
(90 posts)The audience are pretty muted now..
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Rather minimizenthe effects it has on society.
We can provide all the education, religion and sensitivity training in the world and it will never force people to not be a racist.
Makes me so sad that we all can't just accept one another as humanbeings of equal value.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Its weirdly awkward.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)The Advocate Verified account ?@TheAdvocateMag 5m5 minutes ago
Clinton: Important for whites to admit they don't understand what African-Americans face every day. #DemTownHall
Avalux
(35,015 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Plenty of us listen and help. It's offensive she said that.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)good to see you here!
vdogg
(1,384 posts)Was she insulting herself?
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)And her point was spot on.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)are so much greater.
As a senator, formed an all women bipartisan group to trade info and ideas on women's issues.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)Beautiful moment
Donna Brazile Verified account ?@donnabrazile 2m2 minutes ago
Donna Brazile Retweeted Zerlina Maxwell
All of us remember when we went natural. And it's beautiful. #DemTownHall
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Sometimes our very own can be the absolute worse of the worst.
Black people gotta deal with a lot of mess.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)repayment plan (to repay by % of salary) as she had when she repaid law school.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)& repayments.
I've been waiting to hear something on young people that currently have debt. I think it's great that she & Bernie wanna make college affordable; but what about those kids that are struggling now. They need help too.
I have to go back and watch Bernie's segment, I have it recorded. I wasn't able to watch live.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)I knew it would pop up eventually tonight.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)It's one of my favorite things about me.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I was immersed for many years, in The Bronx.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)ecstatic
(32,707 posts)Didn't care for the pastor's question. That's not a president's job. And I'm not comfortable jumping to conclusions or blaming parents whose kids turned psycho.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)The highlight has been the audience members, a few plants w/ softballs, but mostly genuine I think.
Not too much baiting, but Cuomo has tried....
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Might not be fit for legislation but it's on peoples; minds and I didn't think he was blaming anyone for "psychos". If families are more in touch and aren't afraid to talk to one another it can be helpful. THere's got to be SOME way to talk together about these things.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Let the audience ask. His Q's are odd and random, even with Bernie. The people are doing a much better job, imo. He should just call on them more.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)I try to judge candidates by the content of what they say, but I'm having a hard time staying focused on what shes saying because its so long winded and monotone.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Also, sore throats.
Tks for being here!
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)His voice is getting more worn out as the campaign goes on.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)tks for stopping by!
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Good for her.
still_one
(92,217 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)privatized. Good!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)What lob of a softie question.
Bernie, if you had two children in each arm, and you're walking across red hot coals, which child...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)OK.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I had NO idea. WOW.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)nolabear
(41,984 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)they both seemed a little winded. Probably allergy season down there already. They need some claratin.
senz
(11,945 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Nice to see you drop the "impartial" pretense.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)brooklynite
(94,591 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Everyone switched to the People vs OJ Simpson at 9 pm.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Even, steady and smooth as silk
Just sayin'!
With that, I hope voters had their questions for both candidates answered to their satisfaction.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)pitched. This was a little mellower. Next one should be... just right!
DisgustedTX
(1,199 posts)Both candidates showed well tonight until I tuned out. Never count out the abject idiocy of the American public at large.
"Mrs. Clinton: I walked around my neighborhood tonight without pants and people looked at me differently. I feel like a victim!"
Please.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Response to bettyellen (Original post)
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