2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuinnipiac: O+5 in VA, O+3 WI, R+1 CO
O 51-46 VA
O 50-47 WI
R 48-47 CO
http://www.scribd.com/doc/109657567/Quinn-10-11-CO-VA-WI
Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times PollFor release: Thursday, October 11, 20123:00 am ET** Embargoed until 3:00 am, Thursday, October 11
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2012**After the First Debate: Tight in Colorado & Wisconsin; President Still Leads in Virginia
October 4-9, 2012
Alekei_Firebird
(320 posts)Good night.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)But I still think he'll win both!
Alekei_Firebird
(320 posts)I can see Obama winning CO yet losing VA, but not the other way around. I think if Obama's strong enough to keep VA, then he can keep CO.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Since the debates were held there, the local news probably focused FAR more on it than any other state, which is why Romney has seen better numbers in Colorado recently. But as the bounce vanishes, Colorado will drift back toward Obama.
Just a theory.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I find it hard to believe that Obama will lose VA.
He is more likely to lose CO due to the vote suppression. There isn't enough voter suppression in VA, plus Virgil Goode is stripping votes from Romney in VA.
Many of us will be devastated if Obama loses VA simply because we havae been working so hard and Obama has an outstanding ground game going on in that state.
I think these polls are still pretty volatile.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Mr.Turnip
(645 posts)WI is NOT going to be closer than VA, its a situation I have a hard time fathoming.
fearnobush
(3,960 posts)Goes to show the volatility were in right now. I'll take the +5
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Every other poll has Kaine up by 4-5. So, if Obama looks to be up only 1, and Kaine looks to be up only 1, maybe their sample is off, and it's actually Obama and Kaine +4 or +5. That both those results seem to be under the other polls in the same way is interesting, anyway.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...so included the two "pollacalypse" days of Thursday-Friday, when the Romney debate surge was at near-tsunami levels. Knowing most poll methodology, in fact, odds were that it front-loaded those days, so there must have been very good numbers the rest of the sampling period.
Now, it remains to be seen if these numbers are still enough of a drop over pre-debate polls to get 538 to move the race to "dead heat" status...
courseofhistory
(801 posts)and my son and I are voting for Obama! Obama will win if the turnout is good. I'm in the Springs which is Romney country but many of the outlying areas are Obama and Denver tends to lean Obama also. It will be close, but I think he'll win here.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)So I would certainly hope Obama (who is a stronger candidate with a bigger ground operation) can beat him too.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I can't imagine Obama losing VA. I simply can't, especially with Kaine doing better.
We are working hard across the state in VA.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Obama losing VA but winning CO.
What these polls are capturing is what we call statistical noise!!
The polls are way too volatile!
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Wow.
OH + VA = Romney is watching the inauguration at home.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The tide is turning!