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Alekei_Firebird

(320 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:18 AM Oct 2012

Romney/Ryan have now been smoked out

Given how Romney infuriated his GOP primary opponents in early 2012, perhaps the Democrats should've seen the the bait-and-switch coming. But perhaps they, like us, didn't think that Romney would have the gall to do it a second time.

But now that Romney's pulled off his little ploy, he has no more tricks left in his sleeve. Unless Romney somehow invents a new dimension in left-right politics, he has no more positions to scurry off to. Obama was ready to assault his Severe Conservatism, and now, he's surely ready to attack his newfound centrism.

There's a whole month of Mitt-bashing left. The jobs report was relatively phenomenal, and Obama's likeability and job approval rating are looking strong. Romney was totally cornered, and to his credit, he executed his one available strategy flawlessly.

But there's nowhere for him to go now. He has untenable positions and he won't be able to last a whole goddamn month trying to straddle both moderate and conservative sides. The press will now take him more seriously and call him out on flip-flopping, like they did today with the abortion thing. There's plenty more where that came from.

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Romney/Ryan have now been smoked out (Original Post) Alekei_Firebird Oct 2012 OP
The only way we can go is up from here /nt still_one Oct 2012 #1
The flip flopping is deliberate and strategic pointsoflight Oct 2012 #2
The Romney campaign has been very clever over the past week TroyD Oct 2012 #3
campaign strategy: chaos. grasswire Oct 2012 #4
They should have seen it coming a mile away. LisaL Oct 2012 #5
'They should have seen it coming a mile away.' TroyD Oct 2012 #6
At least Romney is consistent on one thing:flip-flopping. LisaL Oct 2012 #8
That's what I find disturbing - he's been doing this since 1994 TroyD Oct 2012 #9
Best line ever! Caretha Oct 2012 #11
Smoked out is right. Bowl is cashed. Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #7
Thanks for not stomping all over Cha Oct 2012 #10

pointsoflight

(1,372 posts)
2. The flip flopping is deliberate and strategic
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:54 AM
Oct 2012

That's what I think we're seeing. A deliberate strategy. Think about it. Romney was boxed in because of the extreme positions he had to take to get the nomination. There's no way he could win the presidency with those positions. So what do they do? They intentionally muddy the waters so that voters don't know what to believe. Republicans will assume that any move to the center isn't real, but just for the purposes of getting elected. And when undecideds and independents see him take a more moderate position, some may well think that perhaps he really is more moderate and would govern that way, but has just been taking conservative positions to placate his base. Not all are going to fall for that, but perhaps it nets him more of those independents and undecideds that he would've gotten otherwise.

So I think Romney wants to muddy the waters. We're not seeing gaffes and slips here. We're seeing the deployment of a deliberate strategy, IMO.

Will they pull it off? I sure hope not. But I think the Romney campaign realized they could not win staying on the right, but also could not win if they truly abandoned conservative positions, so they devised this strategy, which they no doubt saw as risky, but also as their only real chance.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
3. The Romney campaign has been very clever over the past week
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:04 AM
Oct 2012

It's the first time they were able to outmaneuver the Obama Team.

Now it's time for Team Obama to strike back using all the material Romney provided this week to OBAMA's advantage.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
5. They should have seen it coming a mile away.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:05 AM
Oct 2012

After all the campaign itself proclaimed Romney was an etch a sketch candidate.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. 'They should have seen it coming a mile away.'
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:15 AM
Oct 2012

That's what I said yesterday. I was absolutely shocked that a man as smart as David Axelrod was surprised by how 'brazenly' (Axelrod's words) lied in the debate.

Ted Kennedy knew what this piece of garbage was made of back in 1994. Learn from Ted Kennedy and deploy a similar technique to take Romney down:

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
8. At least Romney is consistent on one thing:flip-flopping.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:32 AM
Oct 2012

He has been doing it for years and years.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
9. That's what I find disturbing - he's been doing this since 1994
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:35 AM
Oct 2012

Don't you find it scary that this guy still has a shot at winning?

Cha

(297,433 posts)
10. Thanks for not stomping all over
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 03:37 AM
Oct 2012

Pres Obama in your OP, Alikei-Firebird! There's been enough of that here.

I was surprised too, though, that the O Team did not think that mitt would do his damndest LIES yet in the debate. I could smell it coming..and actually had a bad feeling about the debate before hand that was sickening.

But, Pres Obama has had my back for 4 years and it's not really my style to jump on someone who has helped me.. when they're down.

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