Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

amborin

(16,631 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:00 PM Feb 2016

Black---White Income Gap Keeps Increasing & Black Wages In Decline:

The gap in household income between blacks and whites hasn't narrowed in the last 50 years:






These ten charts show the black-white economic gap hasn’t budged in 50 years


Even as racial barriers have been toppled and the nation has grown wealthier and better educated," Fletcher writes, "the economic disparities separating blacks and whites remain as wide as they were when marchers assembled on the Mall in 1963."


Black Unemployment:

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484

32 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Black---White Income Gap Keeps Increasing & Black Wages In Decline: (Original Post) amborin Feb 2016 OP
Sigh, your chart stops at 2010 which was the height of Bush's mess he left Obama and this is a winge uponit7771 Feb 2016 #1
After 2010 whites started going back up, blacks and Latinos continue down. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #3
Well, there's this. Wilms Feb 2016 #5
Which misses the last 4 years... the change could be drastic from one year to the other... stop uponit7771 Feb 2016 #7
Hurts? Wilms Feb 2016 #10
No, not without a concrete point being made... showing the generational effects of Bush's policies uponit7771 Feb 2016 #11
Well, I can get you out to 2014... Wilms Feb 2016 #13
Still not year to year and which assertion are you talking about? that Sanders associated his campai uponit7771 Feb 2016 #14
. Wilms Feb 2016 #16
Nah, the chart shows year to year effect so no GPM... also which assertion are you talking about uponit7771 Feb 2016 #17
Do you have any substantiated info to offer? Wilms Feb 2016 #24
Could you be more specific?!?!? uponit7771 Feb 2016 #25
In other words... Wilms Feb 2016 #29
it's really too bad that Obama's policies have been so ineffective in addressing this. nashville_brook Feb 2016 #23
but the decline for Blacks Started to Get Worse in 2010: amborin Feb 2016 #6
Yes, Bush's horidness is generational... what's the point?!?! tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #8
that argument doesn't work---things started to suddenly deteriorate more rapidly starting in 2010: amborin Feb 2016 #9
Oh, so this is Obama's fault!? REALLY?!?! lol... sigh... go tell Sanders to say this... lets see how uponit7771 Feb 2016 #12
I'd have to question that. Wilms Feb 2016 #15
Bush's bank laws stopped him and Sanders vote on the CFMA which allowed for the hyper leveraging uponit7771 Feb 2016 #18
You can find accurate info regarding the CFMA right here on DU. Wilms Feb 2016 #22
that repeats Clinton's lie: amborin Feb 2016 #27
the data show that Obama's policies are not helping; no one said his policies caused the amborin Feb 2016 #19
Republicans are blaming the fire fighter for not putting the fire they started out fast enough... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #20
keep telling yourself that; but the facts show otherwise amborin Feb 2016 #30
What facts? You haven't proffered anything but a chart that cuts years off and an specious position uponit7771 Feb 2016 #31
Most Blacks support the candidate who will continue the gap. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #2
Do you think this post could be offensive? Most blacks are supporting Obama's legacy instead having uponit7771 Feb 2016 #21
How is Hillary continuing Obamas legacy? HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #28
Either this issue isn't important or it's Bernie's fault whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #4
Kick azmom Feb 2016 #26
And the steepest climb in black income was during what time period? Jitter65 Feb 2016 #32

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
1. Sigh, your chart stops at 2010 which was the height of Bush's mess he left Obama and this is a winge
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:01 PM
Feb 2016

... winger narrative that leaves out the generational effect of conservative econ policies on America.

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
7. Which misses the last 4 years... the change could be drastic from one year to the other... stop
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

... with this.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
10. Hurts?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:29 PM
Feb 2016

Pardon if I seem insensitive. I'm just delving into the numbers and facts and I am more than happy to draw logical conclusions from them.

Wherever the truth leads....

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
11. No, not without a concrete point being made... showing the generational effects of Bush's policies
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016

... doesn't hurt anyone.

regards

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
13. Well, I can get you out to 2014...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:36 PM
Feb 2016
Wealth inequality has widened along racial, ethnic lines since end of Great Recession

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/12/racial-wealth-gaps-great-recession/

Did you find anything to support your assertion.

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
14. Still not year to year and which assertion are you talking about? that Sanders associated his campai
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:38 PM
Feb 2016

... campaign with someone labeled Obama as n-word-izzed named Cornell West?

That's on video... easilly googled

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
23. it's really too bad that Obama's policies have been so ineffective in addressing this.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:51 PM
Feb 2016

we all expected more change than we got. truth is, this administration has been *transitional* rather than transformational, which was promised.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
6. but the decline for Blacks Started to Get Worse in 2010:
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:16 PM
Feb 2016


The wealth gap between black and white households was way worse in 2013, than it was in 2010. Things are getting worse, not better.


Likewise, the wealth of white households is now more than 10 times the wealth of Hispanic households, compared with nine times the wealth in 2010.








http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/12/racial-wealth-gaps-great-recession/

amborin

(16,631 posts)
9. that argument doesn't work---things started to suddenly deteriorate more rapidly starting in 2010:
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:29 PM
Feb 2016


starting in 2010, the rate of decline of black wealth is increasing;

that means current policies--which Hillary will continue---are not only NOT working to stop the decline, but they are actually working to speed up the decline

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
12. Oh, so this is Obama's fault!? REALLY?!?! lol... sigh... go tell Sanders to say this... lets see how
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

... far this line of logic will go outside of GDP

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
15. I'd have to question that.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

Who stopped him from going after the banks? And they're now bigger and wealthier...just like a lot of insurance companies.

And here's proof of Change.

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
18. Bush's bank laws stopped him and Sanders vote on the CFMA which allowed for the hyper leveraging
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:44 PM
Feb 2016

... helped.

soooooo, yeah... there it is

oh... HRC didn't vote for GS

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
22. You can find accurate info regarding the CFMA right here on DU.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:50 PM
Feb 2016

That is, in most forums.

Stay happy.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
19. the data show that Obama's policies are not helping; no one said his policies caused the
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:44 PM
Feb 2016

initial decline, but it is safe to say that Obama's policies are not stopping the decline, and the decline started to get worse in 2010, whereas it had started to level off slightly right before 2010.

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
20. Republicans are blaming the fire fighter for not putting the fire they started out fast enough...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:47 PM
Feb 2016

... also, I'm not a LIV.... there's ALWAYS been a lag with PoC back into parity with whites after a big economic downturn.

The Republican (not Obama) Great Recession wiped out a lot of PoC wealth

amborin

(16,631 posts)
30. keep telling yourself that; but the facts show otherwise
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:09 PM
Feb 2016

one more time: things started to stabilize heading into 2010, but then, starting in 2010, things started going bad at a faster rate;

Bernie has plans to address this; Hillary does not.

take care!

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
31. What facts? You haven't proffered anything but a chart that cuts years off and an specious position
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:16 PM
Feb 2016

... that sounds like you're blaming Obama for were PoC are at now without directly saying it.

and then... you leave out the fact that in 2010 there was a republican congress... same thing Sanders does; leaves out of a negative narrative of the negative effect of the GOP gerrymandered congress.

I see Sanders isn't making this argument... that would at least be genuine (I don't think Sanders is as genuine as some say he is)

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. Most Blacks support the candidate who will continue the gap.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

I guess they're ok with it. If they thought it should be addressed, they'd be supporting the candidate wanting to improve racial and economic inequalities.

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
21. Do you think this post could be offensive? Most blacks are supporting Obama's legacy instead having
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

... someone who called Obama "n-word-izzed" stump for him in mostly white states

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a39737/cornel-west-bernie-sanders-iowa/

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
28. How is Hillary continuing Obamas legacy?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:09 PM
Feb 2016

She just did a 4 year stint as Sec of State, they're still cleaning up the mess and scandals (the only scandals in Obamas Admin). She didn't do him any favors there.
Sanders hasn't used the N-word or played the race card at all. That would be the Clintons, who have a long sordid history of engaging in dog-whistles and racism.
If blacks want to support Hillary, that's fine...it's their votes. But if they're expecting anything to be done to address institutional racism, economic equality, access to education, and reduction of healthcare costs to median and lower income households, then they'll find themselves with a big case of buyers remorse if Clinton wins. Most likely though, any of the republicans beats her.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
32. And the steepest climb in black income was during what time period?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

Wonder why many blacks support the Clintons?

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Black---White Income Gap ...