I'm not questioning Hillary's Integrity; She has none.

[Bubzer]

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*On edit - The list is still growing*

20 False statements involving Hillary Clinton
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/

Clinton says she 'misspoke' about sniper fire
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/25/campaign.wrap/index.html?iref=hpmostpop

Hillary Clinton lied about not receiving email subpoena
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/hillary-clinton-lied-email-subpoena-benghazi

CBS’ Pelley Asks Hillary ‘Have You Always Told the Truth?’
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-pelley-asks-hillary-have-you-always-told-the-truth/

Hillary’s Top Donor Just Bought The Onion — Started Publishing Propaganda Immediately
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/hillarys-top-donor-buys-onion-starts-publishing-propaganda-immediately/#y40wleHs3myUjElE.99

The Establishment Wants to Scare You with Superdelegates
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/after-sanders-big-win-in-new-hampshire-establishme.html

Guess who owns the lobbying firm for L'Oreal's slave labor mining company? You'll never guess
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511310239

Clinton Foundation received subpoena from State Department investigators
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-received-subpoena-from-state-department-investigators/2016/02/11/ca5125b2-cce4-11e5-88ff-e2d1b4289c2f_story.html

Chamber of Commerce Lobbyist Tom Donohue: Clinton Will Support TPP After Election
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/chamber-of-commerce-lobby_b_9104096.html

“It’s The Corruption, Stupid” - Salon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511317646

[liberal N proud]

1. I thought DU was supposed to support Democratic Candidates not destroy them

[PonyUp]

2. They are. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

19. ...

[Bobbie Jo]

21. Welcome to DU, new person.

[Herman4747]

45. +1,000! n/t

[liberalnarb]

132. Its primary season. Get used to it.

[w4rma]

3. She did this to herself, all by herself. (nt)

[Punkingal]

13. +1

[Bubzer]

4. So why are all the hillary supporters constantly attacking Bernie then?

[TTUBatfan2008]

6. Let me know...

...when the Hillary camp stops attacking Sanders.

[Kittycat]

22. This is Primary season. She needs to answer to democratic voters about her lies

Because we don't know where she stands on issues. This her unfavorability ratings. And why people call her a liar.

[PatrickforO]

27. C'mon. The Clinton campaign, the DNC and the rest of

the establishment has been busy for months ratfucking Bernie - they are using the ugliest race politics I've seen Dems use since...gosh...2008 when they used similar tactics against Obama.

Bernie supporters are angry about this, particularly those of us who have seen this kind of divide and conquer strategy used again and again by the elites to strip the middle class of much of its gains under the New Deal.

Clinton cannot win in the general election because there's a criminal indictment simmering in the background which will surely come up around October. She's just not a good candidate, and she's a neocon at heart.

I support Bernie because of his stances on healthcare, social security, free college, reining in Wall Street, well, ALL of them. Bernie gets it and is directly campaigning on my family's kitchen table issues.

Look at the Hillary posts. Most of them are attacks on Sanders. Some of them are gloats because their race politics worked in NV, along with the help of the NV Dem party hacks. NONE of them talk about issues with the exception of telling us that Bernie's plans won't work, are too expensive, will result in tax increases, etc.

I'm so disgusted by the tactics being used by the Clinton campaign that I want to puke. Well...maybe just at the most egregious ones.

[Spider Jerusalem]

29. We don't have a candidate yet, the primary's not over (n/t)

[SCantiGOP]

31. Not any more, liberal N proud

Impossible to tell DU from Free Republic in a lot of posts these days.

[Bubzer]

33. Totally! Oh, except all those links are sourced from either progressive or neutral sources.

Guess that doesn't fit with your narrative.... sorry.

[SCantiGOP]

34. really ????

How many times have I seen CNN and the Washington Post cited as right-wing sources because they aren't "fair" to the Sanders campaign. How did they morph into progressive, neutral sites when they suit your narrative?

And on edit: The title of the OP alone is enough to mimic a Free Republic thread, or what you will see coming out of their GE campaign against Clinton.

[Bubzer]

38. Oh, so other people speak for me now? Huh. I wonder when I lost the ability to speak for myself...

Well, I'll keep that in mind when a Hillary supporter says or posts something absolutely horrendously bad...even if they may actually be a troll masquerading as a Hillary supporter... and I'll be sure to broad-brush apply it directly to you. You know, just to be fair.

And on edit: The title of the OP alone is enough to mimic a Hillary group thread, or what you will see coming out of their campaign against Bernie. Cause, yeah...it's exactly like that. Notice the broad-brush strokes there? Get used to it.

[SCantiGOP]

61. nice connection there

equating a Hillary group thread to a Free Republic thread.
Just the way to win friends and influence people.

[Bubzer]

65. You're being hypocritical. You JUST DID what your complaining at me for.

And you think you're gonna have a better time at winning friends and influencing people?

[Live and Learn]

118. Amazing, isn't it.

[Bubzer]

123. It kind of is, and isn't... all at the same time.

[VulgarPoet]

124. ...Holy shit, dude.

I can't take these people seriously anymore.

[liberal N proud]

41. B-I-N-G-O!

[Cassiopeia]

32. Things that come directly from the candidate are to be ignored

and hidden from view?

Interesting concept.

I thought Hillary was a strong candidate that can handle anything that comes her way. I also keep reading it will be so much harder facing the Republicans, shouldn't Hillary and her supporters be able to handle the truth about her here?

[MariaThinks]

39. not this clever bunch who feel that since Hilllary became a democrat at 21

she's a flip flopper and one of the reasons she can't be disgusted.

I'm truly disgusted.

[liberal N proud]

46. And the true Democrat is the guy that bashed the Democrats for years suddenly is one

But only to become President.

[chervilant]

63. You're too late.

Thanks to the internet, and other contemporary technology, awareness of Hi11ary's propensity to "misspeak" has turned the majority of US citizens against her. This, and the simmering toxic brew about her SOS emails amassed on her unsecured private server, puts a giant hole in her campaign's lifeboat.

The SS Hi11ary has embarked on its last cruise. Now, she'll have to be content to bounce her grandchildren on her knees.

[Lorien]

121. Not "bashed"; tried to get them back on course

after the GOP takeover of the party by the "DLC", whose mission it was to destroy liberalism within the party and push the Dems to the far right. Guess what; THEY SUCCEEDED!

[Bubzer]

59. Because she became a democrat? No. Because her "principles" have changed? You bet!

[Fairgo]

114. This here...

What does she reveal about herself, if se can so cavalierly abandon her deeply held belief that marriage is between a man and a woman? To have no moral center is worse than having a misplaced one. It means that she is capable of anything.

[RiverLover]

43. She's destroyed herself with all the lies & subterfuge. /nt

[Lizzie Poppet]

47. I think that policy carries the tacit assumption said Democrats are actually progressive.

Need I say more?

[liberal N proud]

48. Yes you must

explain what you mean

[Lizzie Poppet]

53. Sure:

For many here (me among them), our primary loyalty is to progressive policies, not the Democratic Party as an intitution. If that party nominates candidates that we don't feel actually advance a progressive policy agenda, then those candidates don't get our support. Just having a &quot D)" at the end of their name isn't good enough.

[Bubzer]

69. +1000

Exactly!!!

[Jester Messiah]

89. Couldn't have put it any better! [nt]

[VulgarPoet]

126. They want us to vote for a label, and not the contents of the jar.

But the jar of chicken salad they're peddling is really a jar of chicken shit, and they expect us not to tell.

[RiverLover]

51. There's also a tacit assumption the Democrats running for office are actually progressive.

Clearly Hillary has proven that to be erroneous.

[Lizzie Poppet]

58. That's my take, as well.

There are plenty of things I admire about Hillary Clinton, don't get me wrong. But I do not consider her to be remotely progressive, and I can't support her candidacy. I won't vote for her in November unless, against all odds, my state actually looks to be in play...I'll hold my nose and vote against the Republican then. Otherwise, I'll likely leave the presidential slot on my ballot blank.

[Francis Booth]

91. It would violate my personal ethical compass to support

a candidate who has such a cavalier attitude about forthrightness.

[John Poet]

93. Hillary is a Republican

With the morals to match.

[sammythecat]

95. I support the truth

what is in the OP is the truth. If you can show that it is not the truth I'd be very seriously interested in reading that... if it is indeed the plain truth and not spin, or obfuscation and deflection. Not interested in more of that.

[Broward]

96. I thought people were supposed to speak the truth.

[AtheistCrusader]

97. We're allowed to contrast the character and record of two primary candidates.

Super unfortunate, I wouldn't want to defend that CV either.

[Ferd Berfel]

102. K&R ! If quoting reality, stating the truth is destructive

maybe we shouldn't even be considering that person.

[Live and Learn]

116. DU is about truth. And truth is something Clinton seems incapable of. nt

[timmymoff]

137. Let's examine destroy

First off she is supposed to be the most vetted candidate ever and tough as nails, able to and ready to handle all situations. I need to ask you how does her own record destroy her? When we speak about Hillary supporting NAFTA how many of us lied? When we speak of how she supported TPP until a recent "evolution", how many of us lied? When we speak of her condoning and taking support from the private prison lobby, how many of us lied? When we speak of her being for keystone before she was against it, how many of us lied? When we speak of her support for fracking, how many of us lied? This is all public knowledge, when did pointing out facts in a primary become destroying a candidate? I must ask you, did she not realize this is public record? If she didn't would you trust her judgment? Her record speaks for itself and being on both sides of nearly every issue has earned her the distrust people have for her. Why, would you consider this baggage to be good? Why would you continue to call her a liberal when in fact her economic support shows otherwise. Why would you want us to coddle her, considering you think she can beat the gop? Are they going to be kind and genteel? This baggage is why she is the weaker candidate. Her nomination actually puts our lower office potential gains at less likely. As a good democrat, you and I both should be calling for her to step down from this race. Will you join me?

[Fearless]

139. And we still are supporting the democratic candidate

[Renew Deal]

5. The desperation is palpable

[earthside]

7. The denial about what Hillary really is ... is palpable. n/t

[Renew Deal]

8. I agree

It's the denial that Sanders can't stop her.

[Betty Karlson]

10. Your wishful thinking is the enthousiasm that Clinton's campaign has been lacking so far.

Has your stae of mind been analysed yet; surely Clinton would like to know where your enthousiaism comes from? If only for the prupose of forcing it down everbody else's throat?

[Renew Deal]

12. I don't have to force anything

The voters are handling it

[Betty Karlson]

15. So far Clinton and Sanders are tied in pledged delegates.

I'd call that a 50/50 chance of getting the nomination, unless you are aware of some cunning tricks and foul stunts that Debbie is planning. But then: she isn't really a voter is she? So she is not who you say is handling it...

[Lucinda]

25. No they aren't. 52/51 Clinton. n/t

[Betty Karlson]

64. Woop-dee-doo. Mindblowing advantage!

Could easily have gone the other way, and it would still have been a tie.

[MariaThinks]

44. at one point i was 50 50 between Bernie and Hillary

but after reading so many right wing talking points used against Hillary by so called Bernie supporters (the same ones that don't have a voice when it comes to actually taking on republicans), I'm now Hillary 100%

[Herman4747]

52. How is it logical to have others determine...

whom you support?
You do have your own brain, and can use it to assess the wisdom and positions of each candidate.

[Bubzer]

74. That was my thought as well. +1

[noiretextatique]

104. Thanks for asking this question LOL

I've seen several statements like this, and I always think they are complete bullshit. "I was gonna vote for Bernie, but some random asshole on the internet was mean to me, so now I'm voting for Clinton" Dumbest shit...ever. Doesn't stop some from pushing it though.

[libdem4life]

106. Many do not Think For Themselves. They need the approval of someone else.

That's the definition of a conservative in my book...unable or unwilling to do the heavy lifting of doing the research to make an intelligent, personal decision.

I'm tired of this...whichever way it goes. I changed my vote because someone was naughty. This is not grammar school.

[RiverLover]

57. So if we point out from the left she is a war loving hawk (true), and she was soft on protecting soc

social security until it was forced by moveon and she helped write the TPP and she only became pro-gay rights in the last 2 years, and she's been the recipient of more fossil fuel industry donor money than anyone either party and so on.

All things us lefties care about and all verifiably true. I'm thinking you'll still be 100%.

[jhart3333]

60. Amazing how you missed all the crap thrown at Bernie. Just amazing!

[Betty Karlson]

67. Yeah.. I don't really believe you.

Because this is word for word what 15 others have posted on this site. Sounds like premanufactured talking point, at this point.

[Bubzer]

78. It is kinda suspicious that the account is only about 3 months old...

I wonder how many of those 15 were generated pretty close to the same time-frame.

[Betty Karlson]

119. Every single one, Bubzer, every single one...

[chervilant]

70. hmm...

Are the issues raised about Hi11ary "right wing talking points" because the right wing uses them, or are they "right wing talking points" because Hi11ary's supporters want to deny that their candidate is a YUUUGE risk as our nominee?

Feel the BERN!!!

#NotMeUs

(Please do not bother to respond. Besides this being a rhetorical question, I have updated my IL...)

[Old Codger]

77. Some of that is true

Just because they are ,in your mind at least, right wing talking points makes them no less valid...If that seems rough coming from Bernie supporter what do you suppose real right wingers may do if she in fact makes it to the nomination.. It will be a slaughter and we will have a president trump...

[yourpaljoey]

86. that makes no sense, none at all

[Fumesucker]

120. I'm a Sanders supporter and I've posted practical advice on how to fight Republicans

I got over 240 recs for this piece of tactical advice for instance...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002374653

[Bubzer]

16. There's no shortage of desperation or those willing to point and shout "OMG... Desperate!"

There is a definite shortage of Hillary supporters able to defend her terrible judgment... or those who're willing to engage in anything more than attacks against Bernie supporters.

[earthside]

17. That doesn't change what she is.

The OP lays out just a very small part of the scandal that is Hillary Clinton.

Pelley: I mean, Jimmy Carter said, “I will never lie to you.”

Clinton: Well, but, you know, you're asking me to say, “Have I ever?” I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will. I'm going do the best I can to level with the American people.

[cali]

9. I've been saying this for years and years and years right here

I've also said from the very beginning that Hillary will be the nominee. Do explain how that has anything to do with desperation.

[Renew Deal]

11. You're not the only one here

[cali]

14. You made a sweeping statement. I responded to that.

[Logical]

125. Yes, from the hillary team. Nt

[amborin]

18. A few of Clinton's lies:

[Bubzer]

20. Adding to the list.

[GummyBearz]

30. Given that this video is all about HRC, I think you should post it in the HRC group forum

Mainly because I want to know how long it will last...

[Dragonfli]

42. Unfortunately like me (one of the majority not allowed to speak truth there) this video

Would likely be banned as well, If you are one of the sacred few allowed to post fan mail for her there, feel free to post it and send me a link to view how it goes or more likely is erased.

[GummyBearz]

62. Done

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110754011

I hope you click on it quickly...

[Dragonfli]

66. Now try posting this one

That will be erased before you hit the post button

[GummyBearz]

72. I'm now banned...

I thought I made a good case by saying "This is just Hillary giving interviews, why should it not be allowed?"... That simple reasoning didn't fly.

[Dragonfli]

81. It doesn't matter because reason does not apply there, in fact reason is actively discouraged there

It is not a protected group so much as a place to post Hilary idol worship and fan mail. Once you understand that, you understand that group.

[hifiguy]

84. The members of that group, and the one

from which many if its members spring, police their turf with a zeal and intensity that would impress Josef Stalin. Even imagined dissent merits the immediate banhammer.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

71. Locked.

[GummyBearz]

75. It lasted all of 8 minutes

Posted at 9:32am PST
Message saying I'm blocked arrived at 9:40am PST

Did I at least set a record or anything?

edit: Sadly the video is 13min long, so no one watched the whole thing... why don't HRC supporters care about being informed??

[Herman4747]

54. Some DUers are completely banned from posting there...

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Those running the HRC forum have an aversion to the truth, just like Hillary.

[noiretextatique]

105. It is amazing

The crap posted there. One Hillary supporter claims to have damning STUFF about Sanders, but it is deleted everytime it is posted. I told this person about an anti-Sanders post that was deleted because it was factually incorrect, and suggested that his damning STUFF was probably deleted for a similar reason. Then he got on the Clinton supporters' cross and repeated the oft-repeated claim that Clinton supporters are get their damning STUFF about Sanders posts deleted because of a conspriracy...by Sanders' supporters of course. So, I went to the HRC group and copied all the anti-Sanders threads there in reply to this poster and asked: If there is a conspiracy to delete anti-Sanders posts, why are these still here? Crickets, of course.

[GummyBearz]

23. Amazing

The first segment on LGBT talking points should be enough to make any normal person realize this person will say or do anything for her own gain. Do we really want a president that is so dishonest?

[Dragonfli]

24. My new favorite about hilary's little secret

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[font size="1"]She's a racist that ruined many young black men sending then to prison and sentenced over a million kids to poverty in the nineties[/font]

[GummyBearz]

26. Right about 1:50... Obama calls her out for lying, like a boss

In some ways I give Bernie props for running his positive campaign, but I wish he would call her out like this too. He has had several chances. She will say anything unless kept in check with facts.

[Bubzer]

28. And this one:

[Duval]

36. Oh, how I miss this guy! Thanks,Bubzer. nt

[hifiguy]

40. KO called out bullshit better than

anyone since Cronkite or Murrow. I miss him, too.

[Bubzer]

80. +1

[ybbor]

85. Miss him so much!

He was the best I've seen in my life.

Phil Donahue was great before getting tossed, as well

[kath]

49. that is an extremely good video. Thanks for posting it here.

[MariaThinks]

50. this is how bernie supporters are now behaving. If this were true, why are Black Americans so

strongly in favor of Hillary.

Let's not let facts stand in the way of Bernie supporters.

[chervilant]

76. Oh, noes!

I see an imminent return of the dreaded fainting couch!




(And, just as with Caucasian voters--and Latino voters, and young voters--there are Black voters supporting both candidates, so you can bury that worn-out canard.)

[Dragonfli]

79. But it IS true, let's not let facts stand in the way of Hill supporters! In have no clue why some

minorities, or liberals for that matter would support her.

This is all public record stuff , in fact some of it recorded stuff, as shown in the video.
Not all minorities support Hillary by the way, largely because of the unfortunate and uncomfortable truths posted above.

What? Did you just assume I was white because my Icon is a green Dragonfly (dead give away of white folks I suppose, I should change it so as to confuse less people that think I'm white)

[VulgarPoet]

129. Oh no see to them, any poc who doesn't support Clinton isn't a poc anymore

at least that's the sense I seem to get

[MaeScott]

122. Because they don't link Clinton with

NAFTA..the reason their good jobs left
The private prisons and legislation that fills them with their sons, daughters, and kinfolk.

If that distinction was hammered, you'd see her numbers drop.

[Bubzer]

134. How disingenuous of you.

You talk about Bernie supporters not letting facts stand in the way... yet you haven't addressed a single fact offered in the OP...I daresay you haven't let a single fact get in the way of your narrative. You're either projecting or being hypocritical... maybe both.

[erlewyne]

35. I will never support Hillary until she releases her transcripts.

So, Bernie, you are stuck with me and my 6 registered Democrats
(my old house).

I always like to read as opposed to listening.

[hifiguy]

37. I've seen this movie before.

Then the star was Richard M. Nixon. Absolute truthlessness.

[GoneFishin]

55. That OP title made me laugh.

[bigwillq]

56. K and R

[MissDeeds]

68. Thanks for the truth bomb, Bubzer

K&R

[PonyUp]

73. Turn and face the strange...

[asuhornets]

82. I can't wait to vote for her...n/t

[Bubzer]

83. I'll vote for her too... to retire... by casting my ballot for Bernie.

[libdem4life]

107. Why? Other than gender, perhaps.

[asuhornets]

112. Nope..

Best qualified, experienced, smart, and the list goes on and on.

[libdem4life]

113. I think the first word gave the clue. The rest...rhetoric. No facts. No list. Nothing.

[Logical]

127. I bet. Not a shock. Nt

[AzDar]

87. K & R

[LanternWaste]

88. If it's too difficult to support my own candidate, I'll simply trash the other.

If it's too difficult to support my own candidate, I'll simply trash the other. ~ The Irrational Mind

[Bubzer]

92. Yeah, about that...

It's nowhere near as binary as you're suggesting. Part of the reason I support Bernie, is he has consistently stood for things I believe in... where hillary has embraced many things I don't. What you bemoan as trashing the other candidate (I reject your framing, by the way), I call a contrast of reasons... reasons why I wont vote for her... which, in contrast, emphasize my reasons to favor Bernie Sanders.

Both are perfectly valid arguments to favor Bernie.

That you dislike one over the other, doesn't do much to disprove anything on that list.

[Logical]

128. You whine a lot, but really post no counters to the OP! Nt

[Uncle Joe]

90. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Bubzer.

[LovingA2andMI]

94. Bookmarked!

For the day after the General Election when the question will be "Why Did She Lose?"

[davidthegnome]

98. I don't normally do this, but...

Below are the results of a jury vote on this OP. I was juror # 3 and would like to once again, make my challenge to the alerter (and to anyone else) to use facts, to use information, to use reasoned argument to debate the points made in this OP. If you have evidence of Clinton's credibility, point it out, this is the place for it. If you have evidence, or reasons why the OP is full of lies/nonsense/character assassination, make your argument in this thread so we can read it and discuss it. My support for Sanders is not set in stone, nor is my lack of support of Clinton. I would hope that we are all willing to challenge our candidates, and ourselves - and to frequently re-examine who we are voting for and why.

This is an election, one of these two people might very well be President of the USA in time... and we want the best person for the job. Let's argue their merits, their faults, their strengths and weaknesses and ask ourselves, again, who we are voting for, and why. Just my two cents...



On Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:20 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I'm not questioning Hillary's Integrity; She has none.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511317433

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This looks like a post from World News Daily. Pure character assassination.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:30 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I agree. It's one thing to debate. It's one thing to disagree. This looks like something straight off a republican website. I have no illusions about this being hidden, but I have to vote my conscience. There's no discussion, there's no reasoning for this, it just one giant hit piece. On a democratic site no less.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Criticism of our candidates (both of them) should be constant, as should our challenges to them. Let's let the truth (or falsehoods, as the case may be) be known and debated and discussed. If the alerter (or anyone else) wishes to debate the information contained with this post, please do so using facts, reasonable arguments, or whatever you may have at your disposal. This doesn't warrant a hide simply because it fiercely criticizes a particular candidate, IMO.

I have voted to leave similar posts that have attacked the credibility of Mr. Sanders, because, this is an election - and the character, integrity, policies and abilities of all candidates should be challenged like mad. We want the best person for the job - and they signed up for this when they decided to campaign for President.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No, Wingnut Daily doesn't quote sources like The Guardian and Democratic Underground. If you don't like what is being said, make a counterargument.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The truth will set you free!!! Great Post.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is opinion. This is a political messageboards where we post opinions. I'm continually astounded that people alert simply because they don't agree. That is amusing the system.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[NurseJackie]

99. Oh, brother!

[Bubzer]

100. Hmmm... your comment comes with it's own detractor. Thanks for the courtesy!

[libdem4life]

108. That's what I thought immediately...On Point...LOL.

[Fairgo]

117. The perfectly circular meme

Don't stare at it, you'll go mad.

[dana_b]

101. this entire thread just demonstrates to me

that there are certain Hillary supporters that I have NOTHING in common with.

If people can actually not only excuse the blatant lying and lack of judgment on their candidate's part, but then LAUGH at people who are not down with a dishonest candidate, then I truly have nothing to say to them or hear from them.

[Bubzer]

103. *nod* There are some hillary supporters I respect, and some who I dont.

The ones I don't respect are generally those who use: as their counter argument for anything they cant counter with discussion.
Those posing reasoned arguments, even ones I disagree with, are the ones I respect.

[VulgarPoet]

130. Preach.

KMod and Empowerer come to mind for me, I've had fairly civil chats with them before

[LondonReign2]

140. This

Isn't stunning, isn't it, that people who claim to be Democrats are not only perfectly fine with the lies they actually cheerlead for them?

[Karma13612]

109. Ouch!! That is sure to leave a mark!! eom

[AtomicKitten]

110. LOL. Succinctly put.

[AikenYankee]

111. K&R! nt

[Live and Learn]

115. Sad but true. nt

[rock]

131. I'm not questioning your judgement

You can probably finish this statement yourself.

[Bubzer]

135. Yeah, except here's the thing; It's not MY judgment being cited.

AND... you've not refuted a single point. All you have done, is imply an attack at me. A typical Hillary supporter non-argument.

[rock]

136. Who made up the OP title?

Clue: it's not in quotes.

[Bubzer]

138. So an OP title is a citation now?

[Enthusiast]

133. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!

[EndElectoral]

141. Her lying for 13 minutes straight is not surprising. Being honest for 13 minutes straight would be.