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redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:47 AM Feb 2016

So, is DU a "white male bubble"?

The DU polls showed that something around 85% of DUers support Sanders over Clinton (one poll showed something like 90%). Clinton supporters suggest that the appeal of Sanders is strongest amongst young white college educated males, but not strong amongst minorities and women.

If this is true (which I am not convinced that it is), it begs the question: Are DUers mostly young white males? I would not have thought so. Are the people on DU which are members of an ethnic minority outliers? Is the politics of DU at all representative of the politics of the population in general?

In one way or another we would have to be looking at a biased sample here. What gives?

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So, is DU a "white male bubble"? (Original Post) redgreenandblue Feb 2016 OP
The 'white male' thing is just a racial division ploy AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #1
Nah, I'm an old white woman, supposedly a Hillary demographic. Punkingal Feb 2016 #2
Me too! eom s-cubed Feb 2016 #25
Me too. Worried senior Feb 2016 #28
Me2 840high Feb 2016 #33
Old White Woman Raised in Michigan Living in West Virginia for 32 years... k8conant Feb 2016 #29
Same here. SheilaT Feb 2016 #31
No. DU is mostly white, has slightly more women than men and is older. demmiblue Feb 2016 #3
That's what I remember too n/t gollygee Feb 2016 #5
I recall having seen some polls before on DU by members, and the results were similar. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #6
2010 DU Demographics k8conant Feb 2016 #32
Guilty as charged...35 year white male with a graduate degree... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #4
Nope; half black/half white, raised in essentially Little Mexico, and in the military. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #7
The death spiral of Identity Politics. earthside Feb 2016 #8
I don't know about tied to... JackRiddler Feb 2016 #34
This Bernie supporter is a white, male PhD AND drives a Volvo AND wears Crocs and Birks aikoaiko Feb 2016 #9
and drinks Lattes, don't forget. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #20
Given that I am part Italian Trajan Feb 2016 #10
Well, at minimum, we are all literate. closeupready Feb 2016 #11
Nope. It's a progressive bubble. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #12
DU is more white, and more male, and richer, and older than either the US or the Democratic party Recursion Feb 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth Feb 2016 #21
Another old boomer white woman 100% for Bernie. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #14
I am Howler Feb 2016 #15
Well, we're pretty sure it's a progressive bubble. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #16
Male but not white GoldenSF Feb 2016 #17
Do a poll - TBF Feb 2016 #18
Yep (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #22
I'm a white woman under 50 one_voice Feb 2016 #19
Sure. You can tell by how wildly popular and uncontroversial the wide array of men's groups are. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #23
Does anyone have accurate figures on the DU demographic? Nitram Feb 2016 #24
Maybe. PFunk1 Feb 2016 #26
Its been intimated that PoC have syndromes and articles intimating PoC are commiting some type of... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #27
There was something terribly wrong with the sample WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #30

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
29. Old White Woman Raised in Michigan Living in West Virginia for 32 years...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

and voting Democratic for 44 years and for Bernie all the way.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
31. Same here.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:49 PM
Feb 2016

Quite amazed by Millennial son a couple of weeks ago by telling him I'm a strong Bernie supporter.

demmiblue

(36,875 posts)
3. No. DU is mostly white, has slightly more women than men and is older.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

I recall the admins doing a demographics study a some time ago.

It would be interesting if someone can find that link.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
4. Guilty as charged...35 year white male with a graduate degree...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:57 AM
Feb 2016

However given that I'm in the military (15 years and counting), married and both of my degrees are in business, I should be a Repbulcian...nothing could be further from the truth...

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
7. Nope; half black/half white, raised in essentially Little Mexico, and in the military.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:01 AM
Feb 2016

So really I don't fit into any bubble 100%.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
8. The death spiral of Identity Politics.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:02 AM
Feb 2016

When all political beliefs, philosophy, positions, actions are thought to be determined by or ought to be decided by what you are, then we have departed liberalism and entered the death spiral of Identity Politics.

I see the Hillary Clinton effort very much tied to that destructive political force.



 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
34. I don't know about tied to...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:50 AM
Feb 2016

more exploiting to the max. It won't matter at all if she can win it. Then it will just be politics as usual, whatever works.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
9. This Bernie supporter is a white, male PhD AND drives a Volvo AND wears Crocs and Birks
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:12 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:53 AM - Edit history (1)

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Trajan

(19,089 posts)
10. Given that I am part Italian
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:19 AM
Feb 2016

I am considered to have 'olive' toned skin ...

I have always been a supporter of FDR ....

Bernie is amazing ... Hillary is not so much

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
11. Well, at minimum, we are all literate.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:22 AM
Feb 2016

Illiteracy among immigrants and socioeconomically lower minority groups is a big problem.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
12. Nope. It's a progressive bubble.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

I think a lot of folks are forgetting that African Americans are by no means all progressives (or even left-leaning, in many cases). That more conservative-leaning blacks would support Hillary Clinton makes perfect sense: they feel rejected and even hated by the GOP, so she's the clear right-moderate alternative.

I'd guess that DU is pretty even, gender-wise, and people of color are slightly more proportionally represented here than in the general population. But that's just a guess: I have no idea what most DU'ers race is. DU is, however, strongly biased towards progressives...thus the preference for Bernie over Hillary. Not much to do with gender or race (despite the Clinton campaign's "race wedge" tactics)...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. DU is more white, and more male, and richer, and older than either the US or the Democratic party
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

That doesn't necessarily make it a "bubble", but parts of it can be.

Response to Recursion (Reply #13)

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
14. Another old boomer white woman 100% for Bernie.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

Cannot stand Hillary and all she represents. She's 4 years older than me, so I "get" who she is purporting to be and now realize that she's just a poser, imitating that. Bill, same. I used to like her (back when I took her at face value) once upon a time and voted for him twice. But a lot of things that are known now weren't known then. Ever supporting them makes me

They are the worst of my generation. They're everything that's wrong with it.

GoldenSF

(27 posts)
17. Male but not white
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:41 AM
Feb 2016

I'm male but not white. I've polled a bunch of my work colleague and friends:
Black/Asian male in his 40s (Bernie)
South Asian female in her 40s (Bernie)
Minority male (me) (Bernie)
White female 60 years old (undecided but does not like Hillary)
White female in her 50s (Bernie)
White male in his early 30s (Bernie, donated to his campaign early)
White male in his early 30s (Bernie, skilled but not university educated)
White female in her early 30s (Bernie, went to volunteer in Nevada last week)
White male in his 40s (Hillary)

I know it's a very small sample size, but almost all of them are NOT supporting Hillary. I was very surprised because of the two women in Hillary's demographic (could have looked like her sisters) were adamant about not liking Hillary. So it looks like Bernie has a rainbow coalition and not just of "kids", so please do not generalize about Bernie's supporters.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
19. I'm a white woman under 50
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

I was an O'Malley supporter. Still wish he was in..

Undecided now. I like both Hillary & Bernie.

Edited to add:

I have a racially diverse family and they're all over the place with their support. Even people that aren't running.

On of my brothers, AA loves Joe Biden. He's still pouting that he didn't run. I think he's going to throw his support behind Hillary.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
23. Sure. You can tell by how wildly popular and uncontroversial the wide array of men's groups are. n/t
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:03 PM
Feb 2016
because you never know.

Nitram

(22,847 posts)
24. Does anyone have accurate figures on the DU demographic?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

Age, race, gender, education level and income level?

PFunk1

(185 posts)
26. Maybe.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:23 PM
Feb 2016

But I'm an 40+ black male Bernie supporter which supposedly goes against things as I should be in the Hillary camp. So what does that say?

uponit7771

(90,356 posts)
27. Its been intimated that PoC have syndromes and articles intimating PoC are commiting some type of...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

... bad effect on ourselves for voting HRC has been allowed IIRC.

It seems to be a bubble of some type no doubt

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
30. There was something terribly wrong with the sample
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:46 PM
Feb 2016

I didn't see the poll, but I wouldn't get excited by the results.

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