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Related: About this forumMSNBC Cuts Away From Bernie Sanders as He Condemns Trans-Pacific Partnership
The Intercept 2/22/2016 Zaid Jilani
MSNBC cut away from a live Bernie Sanders press conference this afternoon as the Democratic presidential candidate was talking about his opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement. Watch the cutaway:
http://vimeo.com/156330769
Youve been listening to Bernie Sanders, less of a press conference, more of a speech. I want to turn back to the Republican side of things, said Kate Snow, as she pivoted to news of Ted Cruz firing a press spokesperson.
MSNBC owner Comcast has lobbied for the TPP. Last year, it fired host Ed Schultz, an outspoken opponent of the agreement.
A Media Matters study found that outside of Schultzs show, the TPP was mentioned only twice on MSNBC during an 18-month period. Last year, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough admitted to The Intercept that his network was guilty of ignoring the TPP.
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/22/msnbc-cuts-away-from-bernie-sanders-as-he-condemns-trans-pacific-partnership/
This is outrageous. A "free" press? What other things are they ignoring?
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)desmiller
(747 posts)Akamai
(1,779 posts)Go Bernie!!! But really, have these people no shame at all? No shame at all?
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)Many Americans are no longer capable of feeling shame. It's a shame.
desmiller
(747 posts)is now a complete joke.
840high
(17,196 posts)the rest.
desmiller
(747 posts)I started to hate them when they gave Martin Bashir the boot. But when Ed Shultz got dismissed, I was breathing fire that nearly burnt my flat screen.
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)He's "The Great One" like Sean Hannity calls Mark Levin except Mike isn't full of shit.
desmiller
(747 posts)He's abducted to the Lawyers hall of fame.
He truly is America's Lawyer.
still_one
(92,372 posts)nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)banned from my house
still_one
(92,372 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)is now owned by Comcast. that should tell you all you need to know
desmiller
(747 posts)I watch mostly internet shows. The only cable network I watch is MeTV.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It was a press conference from Cruz.
I saw that went business as usual, why media is a joke.
still_one
(92,372 posts)Snarkoleptic
(5,999 posts)Look...squirrel!
desmiller
(747 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Squirrels
Need
Better
Coverage
JohnnyRingo
(18,640 posts)If they aired it much longer they'd have to give equal time to other candidates in fairness. Then MSNBC would be "in the tank for Hillary".
In Bernie's defense, it's a common campaign stunt to call a press conference to make an important announcement, then say nothing new. It's a way of getting free face time on TV. Bernie's views on TPP aren't exactly a stop the presses event
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Sanders doesn't carry that water so they've done everything they could to stifle and smother his anti-corp message.
Good on Bernie for getting it out there!
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It was a pretty big news story at the time.
still_one
(92,372 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Can we just have one cable news station - puleeeeeeeeze!!
Impedimentus
(898 posts)I really miss Jon Stewart.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)I no longer watch cable news, or have cable TV, because of shit like this.
The cable news channels have become total garbage.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)just love it.
This is one of the reasons the under 45 crowd is going to Sanders in a big way. Most of them are in the process of cutting the cord and giving up on cable TV completely. More and more are getting their information from internet news websites or internet shows like TYT.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I only watch cable news maybe 2 or 3 times a year (usually at an airport), and it seems to just be getting worse and worse. Junk shows, as predicted by that prescient '80s TV series Max Headroom.
Uncle Joe
(58,405 posts)Thanks for the thread, nationalize the fed.
yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)It's utterly disgusting, but it isn't unexpected for the station owned by G.E.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)And somehow even more disgusting than when they were owned by GE.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)And we're all in it
Some of us are in the bleachers, and some are on the stage.
It's The World's Biggest Big Top Circus!
think
(11,641 posts)Concentration of media ownership (also known as media consolidation or media convergence) is a process whereby progressively fewer individuals or organizations control increasing shares of the mass media.[1] Contemporary research demonstrates increasing levels of consolidation, with many media industries already highly concentrated and dominated by a very small number of firms.[2][3]
Globally, large media conglomerates include Viacom, CBS Corporation, Time Warner, 21st Century Fox and News Corp (the former News Corporation, split in 2013), Bertelsmann AG, Sony, Comcast, Vivendi, Televisa, The Walt Disney Company, Hearst Corporation, Organizações Globo and Lagardère Group.[4][5][6]
As of 2012, The Walt Disney Company is the largest media conglomerate in the US, with News Corporation, Time Warner and Viacom ranking second, third and fourth respectively.[7]
In nations described as authoritarian by most international think-tanks and NGOs, media ownership is generally something very close to the complete state control over information in direct or indirect ways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)Why would the networks be any different.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)It's hard to take Clinton followers seriously, the reaching is good for the joints tho.
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)to his rote talking points.
What's also well known is that Sanders supporters immediately make things personal to attack just like you did because they can't handle anything outside unquestioned adoration and groveling for BS. That's also well known.
dchill
(38,519 posts)Projection much?
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)bad bad mediaZ out to victimize him! Conspiracy!
This thread is not about me, although you just made my point again about Sanders supporters and their desperate personal attacks. LOL, like clockwork (or "clickwork" as my typo showed), and it's universal, not just here.
dchill
(38,519 posts)Projection much?
Seriously. Ad hominem is the Hillaroid model.
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)The only reasons for your posts were to attack me. That's hilarious you are trying to do it again. You have said nothing else. This is a well known tactic that is universally used by BS supporters. It's national news now. Truly hilarious!
dchill
(38,519 posts)You give me too much credit. After all, I'm just a person who supports truth, and the guy who stays on message - a message that he has not co-opted or lied about. True, he doesn't have the foreign policy experience of surviving non-existent sniper fire, or advocating for 1% trade policies, but he's honest, a quirk I happen to fetishize. Sue me.
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2016, 08:14 PM - Edit history (2)
response to him declaring that I am afraid and he smells it, and there is a 4-3 hide for this nonsense. This should be a warning to all posters of the desperation to get posts hidden here to silence Hillary supporters. I have to laugh at the pettiness, though.
My comments still stand: My only comment in this thread was that Bernie is repetitive to his detriment and everything else posted to me has been just to attack me personally just hoping to get a post hidden. So GLAD this will be over soon and people are on to this silencing attempt by Bernie supporters EVERYWHERE.
dchill
(38,519 posts)by hook or by crook, so to speak. Right? I smell your fear and regret your cognitive dissonance.
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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)pass it on citizen...
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)has managed to endure turns into a conspiracy against Bernie. And if you don't believe the conspiracies, you are attacked! It actually reminds me of the Fox News tactic of creating an alternate universe, and then calling everyone unpatriotic if you question them. Quite the "strategery" they have there.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Pity
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Which Clinton avoids at all costs. Maybe if Clinton followers talked about the issues half as much as they talked about how much they hate Sanders there could be a dialogue, so it comes down to this.
Got some content? Or more Sanders bashing? Issues? Real solutions to actual problems? Or just more "Sanders offers Unicorns and his followers are idiots"? (I overheard that one at dinner the other night, was glad the person was blue, but I had to focus very hard on my meal after that).
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)Paris attacks and he immediately starts in with "billionaires", that's a rote talking point. He doesn't answer questions, he just gives his hating billionaires spiel. Over and over and over. That's laughable. And who cares what you overheard at your "dinner". All one has to do is watch him being interviewed and hear what his default lines are. All aimed at getting applause. He gives the same spiel over and over when interviewed. It's well known by now what he says to rile gullible people like you up. That's what passes as "issues".
So phony.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)and Obama has done well enough that Hillary is hugging him closer than Michelle......or a barnacle clinging to a ship.
Last I heard, Hill's real good at reciting names and pronouncing the places on a map but her record in the FP Dept. has been found lacking, down right dangerous or serves as a money funnel to the MIC and the Clinton Foundation.
Sanders is not a warmongering self-serving, 1%ing, profit before people machine.
So what's this critique about Sanders' FP creditials again?
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)Oh, and lol with the repetitive little buzzwords. "Money funnel"... . These repetitive buzzwords just sound silly after awhile. And look at the "1%" little buzzword, although he obviously has no problem with 1%ers, so long as they are rich actresses who attack for him. Spare me the repetitive bullshit. So phony.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Obama also found it difficult to win in certain primaries. He never stopped plugging away or letting those losses dissuade.
The point being, Sanders' doesn't listen to Eeyores. The fight has just begun!
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)If anything is a rote talking point it is obsessing about terrorists.
I seriously wonder which party I am in these days when we allow a few crazy people to redefine what is important for two weeks every time they get lucky enough to kill a few people or blow something up.
Bernie Sanders has a long list of policy initiatives that are centered around the idea that inequality is a real thing in America. Obviously, that doesn't matter as much to you as freaking out over whatever news crawl about the murder of the week.
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)dares to question Bernie. LOL.
It's not freaking out to observe that he says the same thing over and over to rile up gullible people.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)So... actually addressing directly one of the most important issues of the day is gullible.
Bull. But thanks for calling us gullible. Maybe Hillary can just cite 9-11 next time someone asks about her cozy relationship with Wall Street again.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)then you need to not use them yourself.
It's clear you have your mind made up and are attacking anyone who brings up anything to challenge your view. Have fun!
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Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Or do you claim to not have made any?
And No one has attacked Civil Rights Icons. There have been several who have fallen on their swords for Hillary by lieing for her campaign, and they get called out for it. Or do you think that their status gives them cover to mislead?
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)Bernie supporters, which is to attack people in any way they can for daring to not worship BS. It's obviously more gratifying here because you can get posts hidden, so there's a direct motivation for attacking people so maybe they'll defend themselves and you can alert on their posts.
But its happening everywhere. Facebook, Twitter and in real life at endorsement events. People are attacked. Even iconic civil rights leaders are attacked. They are not being "called out", they are being attacked.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Bernie is a civil rights leader, and he gets attacked regularly.
The icons you mentioned have been put in the position to draw fire, either by mischaraterising, or out right lieing. That happens when you align yourself with the Clinton's.
Now please stop with the personal attacks, and broad-brushing Sanders supporters, it's a low tactic and one that Clinton followers often speak out against.
R B Garr
(16,973 posts)since my post which was going on 24 hours ago now. The attacks are all yours. You haven't contributed anything except to frame your comments as an attack on me personally.
But I'm in good company, since the Bernie supporters tactics are now well-known nationally after the same lowbrow attacks on iconic civil rights leaders and the numerous attacks on Twitter and Facebook on any media figure who dares to question BS. Iconic civil rights leaders have been maligned simply for endorsing Hillary and for participating in events which promote her. It's an ugly tactic by BS supporters, but it is now well known and widely reported.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)that Sanders is "too angry"
All I have done is point out that you're repeating the attacks that have been going on for months. Sanders stays on message, and talks about the issues. He doesn't attack his opponent, and I wish that were mutual.
It's a shame that Clinton's tactics involve hiding behind Icons and they get caught up in the fray. If they lie, or get mis-characterized in her name, then it's on their heads, they are adults, and everything has been brought out into the air now, and Clinton's tactics are open for everyone, thanks to the Internet.
Please stop attacking Sander's supporters, it's dragging down the whole dialogue, and tarnishing the party's chances in the General.
Logical
(22,457 posts)R B Garr
(16,973 posts)wouldsman
(94 posts)turns out the media is just censoring that topic.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)PatrickforO
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(14,023 posts)cascadiance
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Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Is the new meme is cutting him off then saying he doesn't talk about anything different?
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)CUT THE CORD!
jfern
(5,204 posts)It's unbelievable how right-wing the media in this country is.
G_j
(40,367 posts)ALL
marlakay
(11,484 posts)It was like a ad for Hillary went on and on and on about her all flowery and how wonderful she was doing, then showed Bernie for a few seconds then cut him off.
Its beyond rigged, last few days I am thinking for the first time Trump might really win. That has me freaked out.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Fuck MSNBC.
elljay
(1,178 posts)We sometimes forget that (myself included).
It is hard to break the habit of watching the "news" on tv in the evening. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, Howard K. Smith and the other giants of network news. Back then, everyone had basically the same set of facts, even with different opinions. Now, we don't even remotely share the same "facts."
MSNBC has tried to take the place of the old school Evening News. However, it is just an opinion and entertainment channel, like Fox News. The opinions are based on more factual material than Fox, but they are still opinions. Now that Comcast is the owner, they drive the agenda and we hear their opinions.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)tells you that it is important.
TPP/trade issues are where the left and right can agree.
Bernie needs to be all over the TPP . .
And the TTIP as well.
And I mean jumping up and down yelling and screaming all over it.
I wanna see the arteries throb !!
JohnnyRingo
(18,640 posts)Press conferences are to make important campaign announcements, not to hear him reiterate his views on issues. If MSNBC continued they'd have to grant equal time to others, then they'd be "in the tank for Hillary".
In Bernie's defense, it's a common campaign stunt to call a press conference to make an important announcement, then say nothing new. It's a way of getting free face time on TV and I'm sure Cliinton will try it too eventually. Trump thrives on this low budget tactic, but he always says something fresh and provocative. Unfortunately.
Bernie's well known views on TPP aren't exactly a stop the presses event.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)earthshine
(1,642 posts)He doesn't care at all that the will of the people is NO TPP!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141356262
This is what third-way democrats do.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)People really need to know and think about consequence of TPP
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Sky news plays all day now.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)We need a real legitimate progressive cable station, one that does not can people for discussing the dreadful TPP.....or quickly cut away from a speech dare any opposition to the TPP go out on the airwaves.