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tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:23 PM Feb 2016

Katrina Vandenheuval just said on RT that Bernie has already won by moving the narrative..

Katrina, I luv ya but that is BULLSHIT that you just told Ed Schultz. Hillary can say the words, and blow confusing smoke that she is more like Bernie, but it is an illusion. She is still the Third Way, Wall Street snuggling corporatist that she has always been. She will move back to the right if she wins the nomination. Don't go thanking Bernie and his supporters for moving Hillary to the left..IT AINT HAPPENING..

Look at the Carrier video of executives moving more manufacturing jobs to Mexico. Watch the executives say the move is for increased efficiency. This is the result of the free trade America that started with NAFTA and that Hillary and her spouse and friends created.
Tell yourself these workers can all be retrained for hitech jobs in the new economy. Go ahead and believe that Hillary will change the America that displaces these workers for obscene corporate profits. IT AINT HAPPENING!

Hillary can say the words..but she isn't moving. Bernie isn't prompting her to move anything but words. Bernie walks the talk and talks the walk..and we need to have his back..

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Katrina Vandenheuval just said on RT that Bernie has already won by moving the narrative.. (Original Post) tokenlib Feb 2016 OP
I agree that is bullshit. Skwmom Feb 2016 #1
Bernie supporters are now throwing fellow Bernie supporters... under the bus. Agschmid Feb 2016 #2
Sigh. I wish we could retire that very silly cliche. cali Feb 2016 #5
No, we are just pointing out that Hillary is who Hillary is.. tokenlib Feb 2016 #6
Have you actually ever seen anyone thrown under a bus? Depaysement Feb 2016 #9
Did you see Mean Girls? Agschmid Feb 2016 #10
You do realize that's a movie nt Depaysement Feb 2016 #11
I do. Agschmid Feb 2016 #13
I think it's farce, to be honest. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2016 #14
Can't say I disagree. Agschmid Feb 2016 #16
I'm hanging in there. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2016 #17
I hereby swear him in as President of Narrative Movement! alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #3
There are no moral victories. Hillary can not be trusted, she's proven that time after time. nt Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #4
You don't win in this fashion in order to do good things / FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #7
That must be why so many Mexicans Progressive dog Feb 2016 #8
Immigration from mexico is a net zero nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #15
I might get flamed but I kind of agree. In fact, I nearly started a post Jarqui Feb 2016 #12

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
6. No, we are just pointing out that Hillary is who Hillary is..
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

And that we know better than that Hillary will change. I like and will continue to agree with Katrina most of the time..but I disagree with her statement trying to find a silver lining that doesn't exist.

Progressive dog

(6,918 posts)
8. That must be why so many Mexicans
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

keep immigrating to the USA. They're running away from all those jobs that are going to Mexico. No-wait-that doesn't make any sense.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
12. I might get flamed but I kind of agree. In fact, I nearly started a post
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

on this a few days ago.

Let's get the obvious out of the way: if Bernie loses the primary, he loses the primary and with it everything he talked about. And so we Bernie supporters will have lost.
Wall Street will remain in control
No single payer
No drug price reduction of substance
No free tuition
No $15/hr minimum wage.
etc.

So I get that. It would be terrible. I would never feel good about it. It would be depressing. And it would be whatever it is.

BUT I also think Bernie will have won something. He has already planted the seeds to change the narrative. He has already reminded many of what was possible. He's opened a lot of eyes confirming what many of us knew or feared: how the 1% controlled America.

As people sit back and watch the next four years unfold, if he's not elected, they'll see Bernie's words confirmed. More people will start talking about it and what this is all about.

I wouldn't give up and neither will most of you. This won't be over if Bernie falls short. We will learn from this, start sooner and go at it again. We have to. The 1% have absconded with our country. We will still need to get it back.

I think history will look very fondly on Bernie Sanders and if he falls short, will not forget him for what he started. We'll just have to get back to work and finished it for him.

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