2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMark Halperin:Clinton & Trump are now both positioned to possibly lock up nominations in 3 weeks
Clinton, Trump Now on Parallel Glide Paths to Nomination:The two New Yorkers arrived here by different routes. For Clinton, her solid victory over Bernie Sanders in Saturdays caucuses in Nevada provided a circuit breaker on her rivals weeks-long run of momentum, punctuated by his landslide win in the New Hampshire primary.
Such is the inexorable power of the expectations game in determining the meaning of election results that what would have, only a few weeks ago, been seen as a miraculous showing by Sanders in Nevada (losing to Clinton by just 5 points) is now a potentially candidacy-ending loss. The Vermont senators campaign compounded some bad luck with some bad judgment. First, after a long period without any credible polling in the Silver State, a CNN survey released three days before the caucuses showed the race effectively tied. Then, Sanders team made it clear to reporters that they were playing hard to win on Saturday and their body language suggested they thought they would prevail. Thus, Clintons victory was seen as a reassertion of her hold on non-white voters, seniors, and other elements of a majority coalition that can be replicated in almost every upcoming contest.
It is crude and irrational, but the impact of the CNN poll and Team Sanders misplaced display of confidence was to take the full measure of his momentum and transfer it to the former secretary of state in one fell swoop Saturday night. Now, Clinton has regained the Big Mo just in time for a three-week stretch after South Carolina and created a potential killing field for Sanders.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Is there a problem with that?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Seems to indicate getting rid of some people.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)You aren't a vermin are you?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)*looks down*........ vvvvvvvv I might be in trouble.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)All is lost if she is the nominee, so why come here.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I certainly won't be a part of it.
The dirty campaigning and her brazen, mocking supporters have turned me so completely off.
I guess I won't be around DU much. I think I'll survive.
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calguy
(5,324 posts)Why not just go away now? We can put the Trumpster in the Dumpster without the smartassed comments from the peanut gallery.
We don't need a Democrat version of teabaggers telling us our nominee is not "Liberal" enough.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)calguy
(5,324 posts)DUMP TRUMP!!
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)They will line up for miles to vote against another Clinton.
They might disagree with Trump on most of the issues, but Hillary will definitely turn out the vote.... AGAINST HER.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Have there actually been any upswings in polling towards Clinton since Nevada?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)is almost over!?
Go Hillary!!!
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)the support of a lot of young people, as did Hillary. I think it has something to do with the candidate's supporters. As a black wowan whose husband worked on the Obama campaign, it was a contested primary, but I don't recall the anger demonstrated this cycle. Personally I liked both candidates, and was proud as a member of the Democratic Party that we had two viable candidates. It's different now as one half of the party seems to be acting like the GOP party, in that if they can't win, they want to burn down the house, and destroy the party.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)But, yeah, keep blaming it on Sanders' supporters. We're the sole reason for any problems. We are basically the GOP.
Think that kind of rhetoric is going to help if Clinton gets the nomination?
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)supporters to strap on their armor in support of Bernie should he be the nominee. Both sides should just stop it.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)You want people to stop it but you keep dishing it out. Maybe YOU should stop it. I don't do it. I argue about Clinton, but I don't talk about "her supporters" like you are Sanders' supporters. You want a better tone in here? Then do it.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)BreakfastClub
(765 posts)in the national spotlight for some time. Sorry. You could make one about Obama, and I'm sure there are some out there too. This is just a baseless, partisan attack. Very ugly and very misleading.
Cosmocat
(14,567 posts)I had the same personal experience - I came in supporting Hillary but flipped to BHO in 08 and Bernie this time.
It was primary and it was rough at times, but the BHO supporters were a LOT more confident, focused on BHO and just generally positive in tone.
This go around this place is like a right wing attack site on HRC ... Bernie supporters here sound and act like the right wing loons I have to deal with at the gym.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)This is nothing.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And I don't remember it being this bad either. Especially with all the time outs.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)You crack me up!
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Can I clone you to be surgical nurse for my upcoming hip replacement?
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)The GOP is going to destroy her, and I won't be able to stop laughing. They have so much to work with. All I'll be thinking is I Told You So. If her supporters think the GOP is going to play nice they are sadly mistaken. They don't have the thick skin to survive. All it takes around here is to tell the truth that she is a liar and you get your post hidden. They can't handle the facts or truth, and the GOP are going to win in November.
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)Interesting.
Cosmocat
(14,567 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Response to brooklynite (Original post)
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DCBob
(24,689 posts)The GOP old guard is still powerful and ruthless. They will likely try anything to get rid of him.. and they might succeed.
cali
(114,904 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)I watch their Show on Bloomberg and their "Circus" on Showtime and their "All Due Respect Show" on MSNBC. They got much coverage for their book "Game Change" about Clinton vs. Obama and the follow up.
Bloomberg is for Hillary and both Mark and John got deals made because of their connections there. They did some good reporting on Bernie early on with their "All Due Respect" show when it was just on Bloomberg but they they got deals cut with MSNBC and Showtime...and turned Real Establishment.
Halperin was suspended from MSNBC when he said on "Morning Joe" awhile back that "Obama is a Dick." He has been suspended before from other outlets. His father Marty was a Dem and had the FBI investigating him for years with Hoover. Check it out on WIKI.
Mark seems to have "Dark Moods." John is more reasonable. I watch them (keeping in mind) the power and influence that are behind them these days. Given their recent deals that have had an effect on their reporting...I might be re-thinking how much I follow them, though. This latest from Mark...is WAY OTT.
Gothmog
(145,481 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Hillary may have a lead, but it won't be resounding.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)and we will be expected to fully support her here, I'll probably need to hide out in the Photo Group until the election is over.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It won't be over then.