2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat is the scariest thing about a Hillary Clinton White House?
for me it is foreign policy and trade (TPP).
she praises the neocon Henry Kissinger, is opposed to a ban on cluster bombs and land mines,
has a very hawkish record as SoS. she opposes Glass-Steagull and is very pro-Wall Street.
she was on the board of Walmart one of the most vehemently anti-union companies and has done little or nothing for labor, so it is extremely puzzling to me how she got the endorsement of the SEIU Service Workers Union.
Ms. Clintons political expediency on the minimum wage issue isnt the only ploy she has used to gain favor of labor unions. She has distanced herself from Wal-Mart, where she served as a board member from 1986-1992, while the corporation waged campaigns against labor unions seeking to unionize store workers. There is no evidence she ever vocalized her support for labor unions, and ABC News obtained videos of several board meetings she attended and remained silent as her fellow board members worked out anti-union strategies. The New York Times reported in 2007 that Ms. Clinton maintains close ties to Wal-Mart executives, but omits her past affiliation with the company in her speeches and website. At the time of her appointment to Wal-Marts board, she held nearly $100,000 in stock and was a lawyer with the Rose Law Firm, which represented the company in several cases. Her current campaign treasurer, Jose Villareal, has also spent decades on boards of Wal-Mart and other companies run by their owners, the Walton family.
http://observer.com/2015/11/why-it-makes-no-sense-for-labor-unions-to-endorse-hillary-clinton/
rock
(13,218 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Will have to fit it in somewhere after she secures your delegates and money for 2020.
Not that it won't be the only thing she will ignore.
HillDawg
(198 posts)Is a main concern, then I think that's all you need to know.
Like her vote to invade Iraq. How stupid was that?
HillDawg
(198 posts)Is Bernie's Foreign Policy.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)That's a policy we can all live with.
HillDawg
(198 posts)Called upon. I don't think we need to go in and get in the middle of every conflict, but I think we need to finish what we are in now and still get involved with what was needed. I was in favor of the war, at time it seemed like a reasonable thing to do. We were tricked into believing Iraq had more than it really did.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)knew it was a lie. Either she was incompetent and uninformed as a Senator, or bullshitting now. Maybe both. I think she was being willfully ignorant with her vote. Her advisors backers and allies are in thick w the MIC.
Broward
(1,976 posts)HillDawg
(198 posts)I was young at the time.
And also her voting for that wouldn't change my mind anyways. I feel, and can tell by her responses, that despite what she voted for in 2002, she has a better grasp on foreign policy in 2016.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Both the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war were unecessary....
Sorry...Crimes!
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Im Jewish I get it.. So are you saying she should have been straight and said fuck my Jewish Constituents.Whats right is right? I donno, but its not that simple as saying How stupid is Hillary...
Its fucking politics in the U.S.!
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)She has been that for most of her life, only evolving to the left when forced by the primary.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)There is not much difference between H and them.
Bernie, however, will kick their ass.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)the primary.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)All support TPP. Doing nothing about GW. Invade Iraq. Keep minimum wage a minimum. Collect big money for campaigns. Support endless wars.
A vote not for Bernie is a vote for more of the same.
azmom
(5,208 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Bill Clinton.
Chelsea Clinton.
The whole Clinton family.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Ya, I'll go with your whole group! This is just a huge mess!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)You see I was born in Chile and have personally known persons who had family member suffer under the Pinochet dictatorship.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)dragonfly301
(399 posts)all of her wealthy benefactors.
Snarkoleptic
(5,998 posts)To himself "excellent, excellent, excellent....."
tularetom
(23,664 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)dflprincess
(28,082 posts)we might get tossed a couple crumbs but the middle class continues to dwindle and the ranks of the working poor grow as college becomes a pipe dream for more kids and jobs that pay a wage that leaves a person with any disposable income become scarcer.
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Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)The 'D' after her name doesn't change her core policies.
jonjon
(68 posts)hence WWIII!
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Roy Ellefson
(279 posts)her fiscal conservatism (the Clinton's love austerity) and her being a warmonger
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)... I think she is Nixon.
I've met her and followed her 'career' since 1991 and frankly, I think she has the same kind of character flaws as Tricky Dick.
So, my greatest fear is the damage she will do to the institution of the presidency, to the Constitution, and to the reputation and spirit of the republic.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)now with nothing much to do. What could go wrong?
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)will be complete corporatists.