Feb 2008
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/9186 I believe it's this line one can take away if Delores skipped facts or not. So I take it from the interview there was more than one Latino in the conversation with Amy Goodman I've stuck the items in bold that is what this did she fib or lie or not comes from. Now the way I was raised , you were either pro illegal or anti illegal depending again on where you grew up not whether you were Liberal or Conservative. I have know many Hispanics that get angry over illegals cheating the syste when they came here and proudly so went thru the legal channels. I can't imagine either candidate having time for everything but Bernie has been on the job way longer than Hillary so it'll be interesting. (okay before I get my ass in a grinder she's been in politics about the same. But ones always been on the Left side. Next time Goldwater is a Liberal you let me know. Whether she was of voting age or not. I saw bill Clinton when I was almost 17 myself. But I can attest for the moment up to the age 40 , I would have been left wing longer than hillary. Left wing and Independent don't disagree. The age of the PARTY is dead. Your either Liberal, Progressive, Moderate Conservative or Tea Party. Independent doesn't quite work into all that but , I'll get back to the subject. ---
FEDERICO PENA: First of all, I didn’t know that this morning’s call was going to give an opportunity for each of us to criticize the other candidate. I am happy to do the same thing as respect to Hillary Clinton, but let me interrupt and correct the misimpression that my good friend Dolores just left. I’ve spoken to the senator about this case and his staff. His staff met with this woman twice. The reason she got special exemption years ago with Senator Durbin’s help was because she had a special medical condition. That special medical condition went away. She was no longer subject to a unique law that had to be passed specifically on her behalf, and that’s why it wasn’t done. So it’s clearly not the case.
But let me get back to this issue of who has been most involved in the Hispanic community. Now, Dolores just said that she’s been to Chicago a number of times — by the way, Dolores, I go to Chicago a lot myself — and that she’s never seen Barack in the community. Well, Barack Obama was the only person who participated in the massive marches by immigrants who were protesting the inappropriate immigration laws being considered in Congress. Hillary Clinton did not. It was Barack Obama who has been strongly supporting immigration reform in the Congress, introducing amendments with Senator Menendez, Congressman Gutierrez. And it was Barack Obama who said that he supports states having drivers’ licenses for undocumented citizens, whereas Hillary — and you saw her during the debate — at first she said she was for it, then she’s against it. And now she’s definitely against it. Where is the courage?
You talk about courage. I want to stand with a president who has the courage to stand up for the things that are right, to say the war was wrong in 2002, when Hillary said it was right. And then, last night in the debate, she started to say that, well, it really wasn’t a resolution to engage in war. And Barack read the title of the resolution, which is very clear. So we have to be careful when we talk about courage and judgment, because there is another side to the story as respects Hillary Clinton. I didn’t want to go there this morning, but since Dolores launched this first attack about Yucca Mountain — and then she knows that Barack has been against Yucca Mountain. I know about Yucca Mountain, because I was Secretary of Energy under President Clinton. And we can talk about the position of President Clinton on Yucca Mountain, if you’d like to, too, but I thought we were going to have this conversation, one about our own candidates, and have it a bit more clean.
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