Snowden and the NSA Is not even an issue in this campaign

[JI7]

For all the posts about this on DU for some years this isn't even an issue in the campaign on either side.

With rand paul out and snowden's hope for pardon from a president President Paul gone he is now talking about how he would be ok with a trial.

It's good the dem candidates see there are much more important issues.

[MohRokTah]

1. He needs to come back, stand trial, face the consequences for his actions and do the prison time. em

[EdwardBernays]

2. Why

Would you possibly think he'd get a fair trial?

That's weird.

[MohRokTah]

3. He'd get a fair trial

Then he'd fairly spend the most of the rest of his life behind bars precisely like he deserves.

[EdwardBernays]

7. what are you basing that on??

There's no long history of fair trials in America, especially for high profile targets.

Do you anything about the farce that is the KSM trial?

OR any of the dozens of times the prosecution has lied, or colluded with judges and cops to get a conviction? The US is seen as having a very poor track record at producing legitimate convictions outside of the US.

He'll never get a fair trial..

[MohRokTah]

9. I am basing it upon the criminal penalties for his offenses

The man has already confessed his crimes. A jury would take maybe five minutes to convict his criminal ass based upon his media statements alone, and only then because thy would feel obligated to at lest ask if anybody has even a shadw of a doubt as to his guilt.

His guilt is undeniable.

[EdwardBernays]

10. That's

Not what a fair trial is.

And the fact that you think it is explains a lot.

[MohRokTah]

11. Yes it is.

If a criminal like Snowden is so STUPID as to go on television to tell the world about the crimes they committed, that video WILL BE INTRODUCED AGAINST THEM.

It's a slam dunk. He'll do 20 years minimum, and may spend the rest of his life behind bars.

And he deserves every second of prison time for the rest of his life.

[markpkessinger]

13. Being charged under the Espionage Act makes it impossible to defend oneself n/t

[HassleCat]

4. Should be an issue

OK, maybe not Snowden in particular, but the issue of whether or not we will encourage whistle blowers.

[snot]

5. This is another issue on which DU'er's opinions seem hardened.

I regard Snowden as a hero.

[giftedgirl77]

6. Snowden can keep his happy ass wherever he is.

I have other major issues to worry about & Wallstreet isn't on the list either.

[Blue_Tires]

8. Well it wasn't in '14, either

So I don't know why anything would have changed since then....

[farleftlib]

12. He's my hero

Bernie said something along the lines of, "he broke the law but...." I don't think he's calling for his head on a spike like HRC and the clown car candidates.

Hopefully Pres Sanders will do something about this.

[Warren DeMontague]

14. If we are going to punish lawbreakers, lets punish them all.

Last time I checked, lying in court is against the law. Just because it would be inconvenient to go back and let out the millions of drug users in prison who were prosecuted using "parallel construction", doesnt mean that particular snowden revelation should continue to be swept under the rug.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140203/11143926078/parallel-construction-revealed-how-dea-is-trained-to-launder-classified-surveillance-info.shtml


http://www.salon.com/2013/08/10/the_nsa_dea_police_state_tango/