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wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:55 PM Feb 2016

Why Nevada was a bad sign for Bernie Sanders's "political revolution"

It was bad news for Bernie Sanders that he lost in Nevada Saturday. But there may be a bigger crisis embedded in the loss: It suggested he isn't delivering on a key ingredient needed for his "political revolution."

On Saturday, about 80,000 voters participated in Nevada's caucus — roughly two-thirds of the total that came out in 2008.

Sanders's reason for running, as he describes it, is to upend how money and special interests shape American politics by empowering voters. This means bringing out an unprecedented number of people on Election Day.

So as bad as it was to lose Nevada on Saturday night, the tepid voter turnout in itself is almost a more significant problem for him.

Throughout the course of his campaign, Sanders has promised to transform American government by bringing "millions and millions" of new voters to the ballot box.

This is in contrast to the incrementalism of Clinton's campaign, which recognizes the confines of a bitterly divided American electorate and offers to fight for whatever gains are available.

Sanders rejects the limits of this system. His "political revolution" is based on the idea that Democrats could win big with a message that gets a massive number of new lower- and middle-income voters continually engaged in the political process.

It's an inspiring vision. But there is little sign that it's actually happening.

Low turnout in Nevada wasn't an outlier. New Hampshire saw 10 percent fewer voters in 2016 than it did eight years ago. In Iowa, turnout was also down — from 287,000 in 2008 to 171,000 this year. (By contrast, voter numbers are exploding on the Republican side, with records for GOP turnout being crushed in Iowa, New Hampshire, and, from the early results, South Carolina.)

Sanders needs this to change, and quickly, to validate one of his key arguments against Clinton.

As Vox's Ezra Klein has written, Sanders thinks "the core failure" of Obama's presidency is its failure to convert voter enthusiasm in 2008 into a durable, mobilized organizing force beyond the election. Sanders vows to rectify this mistake by maintaining the energy from the campaign for subsequent fights against the corporate interests and in congressional and state elections.

The relatively low voter turnout in the Democratic primary so far makes this more sweeping plan seem laughably implausible. Three states have voted, we've had countless debates and town halls, and there's been wall-to-wall media coverage for weeks. Sanders has drawn close to Clinton in the polls, and there are real stakes in a closely divided race.

And yet ... we have little evidence that Sanders has actually activated a new force in electoral politics. If he can't match the excitement generated by Obama on the campaign trail, how can he promise to exceed it once in office?

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/21/11081086/bernie-sanders-nevada

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Why Nevada was a bad sign for Bernie Sanders's "political revolution" (Original Post) wyldwolf Feb 2016 OP
More bullshit from Vox and Ezra Klein. Gotta hand it to them, they keep trying. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #1
A sober analysis of what should be obvious. stopbush Feb 2016 #2
A single digit AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #3
The raging wave is building... higher and higher it goes! yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #6
+1. Hillary was hurtin' for dollas so DNC utilized the Corporations are People too 911 button. nc4bo Feb 2016 #10
Don't you diss the Groundswell! The Groundswell is sacred. The Groundswell is the Truth. alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #4
We must spread the word of Benie I think you must agree yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #7
Groundswellianism is the only road to Glory alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #12
The low turnout also reflects poorly on Hillary too, does it not? Can't have it both ways. reformist2 Feb 2016 #5
He's a moron turnout is lower because there are only 2 candidates. JRLeft Feb 2016 #8
He is fighting 7 years of disillusionment of the Obama administration. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #9
I thought this was only the Third State fredamae Feb 2016 #11
I look out my window and see no Bernie revolutionaries marching by workinclasszero Feb 2016 #13
They're having coffee. Ellipsis Feb 2016 #14
Surfing the internets too workinclasszero Feb 2016 #15
some people sit back in the kitchen and look out window... Ellipsis Feb 2016 #17
Predictions: ucrdem Feb 2016 #16
Nate's said more then that already. Ellipsis Feb 2016 #18

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
2. A sober analysis of what should be obvious.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:59 PM
Feb 2016

Just saw BS on MSNBC saying he was disappointed in the turnout in NV. Does that give him pause? Doubt it.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
3. A single digit
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:59 PM
Feb 2016

I remember months ago, you were bragging he had alreacdy peaked when he was down 30 points.

He has yet to peak.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
10. +1. Hillary was hurtin' for dollas so DNC utilized the Corporations are People too 911 button.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:03 PM
Feb 2016

Yep, opened up them faucets and let the corporate cash flow.

Money don't always buy happiness Camp Hillary......we have a long way to go baby!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
4. Don't you diss the Groundswell! The Groundswell is sacred. The Groundswell is the Truth.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:01 PM
Feb 2016

Groundswell.

Say it.

Groundswell.

It shines its Holy Light upon the land.

Groundswell!

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
9. He is fighting 7 years of disillusionment of the Obama administration.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:03 PM
Feb 2016

I think he is doing quite well all things considered.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
11. I thought this was only the Third State
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:03 PM
Feb 2016

isn't there over 45 states left to go? Does it make sense to "call it" for HRC so soon? lol

Seems Bernie did quite well in all three states considering MSM Blackouts/HRC Bias, HRC's Big Corp bucks backing her VS The Peoples Campaign etc. He seriously narrowed the gap in NV and IA.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. I look out my window and see no Bernie revolutionaries marching by
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

They aren't showing up at the voting booth either.

Where could they be???

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
17. some people sit back in the kitchen and look out window...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:29 PM
Feb 2016

..stare at the bird feeder up here in the North...

...seems like DU is the troll bird feeder today.. Like watching a half dozen or so bluejays show up and try to shoo everybody away.

It a long way to Tipperary.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
16. Predictions:
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

1) Sanders will win Vermont and maybe Maine.
2) He will continue to haul in millions with every rousing concession speech laced with anti-Clinton innuendo.
3) He will make the same speech at the Convention. There will be tears and considerable acrimony.
4) He will return to Vermont and make a bare minimum of campaign appearances.
5) He will not run for reelection.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
18. Nate's said more then that already.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:35 PM
Feb 2016

Hunker upnto the bar and finish your bloody Mary.

You soothsayer you.

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