2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOK fellow Bernie supporters calm down. Relax.
You don't want to give the white house to the GOP do you. I'm not feeling Hillary either, but Gawd Damn she's a thousand times better than any of the Republicans. Remember the movement does not end with Bernie, it's bigger than him. Power doesn't yield easily.
Be excited, not apathetic because we have to continue to fight for real change. It may not be this year or in 8 yeats but the revolution is coming because we cannot continue down this path.
DON'T GIVE UP!
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)I feel no enthusiasm towards her in the general election.
FarPoint
(12,466 posts)The voters have spoken in Nevada.... Congratulations Hillary.
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)Good luck with that in November when she loses Ohio in the GE.
FarPoint
(12,466 posts)We got game here...Hillary is strong.
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)Don't expect Strickland to beat Portman either.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Period. She's a huge liar, disliked, scandals out the ass, and has been delivering political favors for foundation donations. There is no republican with more dirt than her, and she will fire them up to come vote against her. Get ready for a republican POTUS and expect the people to either react with violence or lay down and die.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Which means it's Bernie or a Republican.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)feelings are hurt.
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roguevalley
(40,656 posts)FarPoint
(12,466 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Lol
senz
(11,945 posts)There is still something good left in this country, and it will fight your candidate to the end.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)So I will continue to support Bernie.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)The primary ends on Super Tuesday.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)The vast majority of states vote AFTER super Tuesday.
Monday, February 1 Iowa caucus (results) 52 D, 30 R Closed
Tuesday, February 9 New Hampshire (results) 32 D, 23 R Mixed
Saturday, February 20 Nevada caucus (D) (results) 43 Closed
South Carolina (R) (results) 50 Open
Tuesday, February 23 Nevada caucus (R) 30 Closed
Saturday, February 27 South Carolina (D) 59 Open
Tuesday, March 1
(Super Tuesday, SEC Primary) Alabama 60 D, 50 R Open
Alaska caucus (R) 28 Closed
American Samoa caucus (D) 10 Open
Arkansas 37 D, 40 R Open
Colorado caucus 79 D, 37 R Closed
Democrats Abroad
(Vote March 1 - 8) 17
Georgia 116 D, 76 R Open
Massachusetts 116 D, 42 R Mixed
Minnesota caucus 93 D, 38 R Open
Oklahoma 42 D, 43 R Closed
Tennessee 76 D, 58 R Open
Texas 252 D, 155 R Open
Vermont 26 D, 16 R Open
Virginia 110 D, 49 R Open
Wyoming caucus (R) 29 Closed
Saturday, March 5 Kansas caucus 37 D, 40 R Closed
Kentucky caucus (R) 45 Closed
Louisiana 58 D, 47 R Closed
Maine caucus (R) 23 Closed
Nebraska caucus (D) 30 Closed
Sunday, March 6 Maine caucus (D) 30 Closed
Puerto Rico (R) 23 Open
Tuesday, March 8 Hawaii caucus (R) 19 Closed
Idaho (R) 32 Closed
Michigan 148 D, 59 R Open
Mississippi 41 D, 40 R Open
Democrats Abroad 17 N/A
Saturday, March 12 Guam (R convention) 9 Closed
Northern Marianas caucus (D) 11 Closed
District of Columbia caucus (R) 19 Closed
Tuesday, March 15 Florida 246 D, 99 R Closed
Illinois 182 D, 69 R Open
Missouri 84 D, 52 R Open
North Carolina 121 D, 72 R Mixed
Northern Mariana Islands caucus (R) 9 Closed
Ohio 159 D, 66 R Mixed
Saturday, March 19 Virgin Islands caucus (R) 9 Open
Tuesday, March 22 American Samoa (R convention) 9 Open
Arizona 85 D, 58 R Closed
Idaho caucus (D) 27 Closed
Utah 37 D, 40 R Closed
Saturday, March 26 Alaska caucus (D) 20 Closed
Hawaii caucus (D) 34 Closed
Washington caucus (D) 118 Closed
Tuesday, April 5 Wisconsin 96 D, 42 R Open
Saturday, April 9 Wyoming caucus (D) 18 Closed
Tuesday, April 19 New York 291 D, 95 R Closed
Tuesday, April 26 Connecticut 70 D, 28 R Closed
Delaware 31 D, 16 R Closed
Maryland 118 D, 38 R Closed
Pennsylvania 210 D, 71 R Closed
Rhode Island 33 D, 19 R Mixed
Tuesday, May 3 Indiana 92 D, 57 R Open
Saturday, May 7 Guam (D) 12 Closed
Tuesday, May 10 Nebraska (R) 36 Closed
West Virginia 34 D, 37 R Mixed
Tuesday, May 17 Kentucky (D) 61 Closed
Oregon 73 D, 28 R Closed
Tuesday, May 24 Washington (R)* 44 Closed
Saturday, June 4 Virgin Islands caucus (D) 12 Open
Sunday, June 5 Puerto Rico caucus (D) 67 Open
Tuesday, June 7 California 546 D, 172 R Mixed
Montana 27 D, 27 R Open
New Jersey 142 D, 51 R Closed
New Mexico 43 D, 24 R Closed
North Dakota caucus (D) 23 Closed
South Dakota 25 D, 29 R Closed
Tuesday, June 14 District of Columbia (D) 46 Closed
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Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)(although she'll never win Alaska) but with a distinct lack of enthusiasm.
mvd
(65,180 posts)We are getting closer and closer to getting a Progressive into the White House, and that movement will not stop. Got to put the pressure on Hillary if she's the nominee.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)And the people I see dying and being destroyed by the policies in place now, will just die slightly faster. Not sure how much it will matter to the people already circling the drain. Might matter more to those that don't yet realise how close to the drain they are as they have a rude awakening coming.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)I'm fine too but my income can't be spread any thinner trying to keep other familes alive. I fear if a political revolution is not successful that a violent one is not far off. instead of committing suicide because their families are dying, I think they will start taking others out with them, and suddenly I understand how this shit started in third world countries. It's fucking scary as hell.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)on SSI,food stamps,medicaid.engery assistance.housing assistance.I will be one who will be screwed over.
clinton or trump it's the same.i will be screwed.
democratic party has now proven they don't care about anyone who isn't in the top 1%
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)It disgusts me. I can't even say on here what I really feel. Good luck to you. They will surely make the internet an ineffective tool so that there won't be another chance to change things. I always thought it was weird that the people living in dictatorship said they didn't see it coming until it was too late. Now I understand that.
Still with Bernie.
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)Even if she wins, she won't have any coattails nor will she get anything passed through the Tea Party clowns.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Whether I hold my nose and vote for it or not.
Keep getting those campaign dollas from wall$treet and sending out those send-me-$1 emails, gonna need 'em.
Going to fight for Sanders until I can't fight anymore.
renate
(13,776 posts)I haven't felt warm and fuzzy towards her during the campaign--in fact my opinion of her has gone down quite a bit in this process, and a lot of that is probably due to the people around her and the advice she's taking--but I think she will be a good president if she ends up being the nominee.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)I don't think she's a natural campaigner, and when she is campaigning against one's chosen candidate, it becomes easy to judge her negatively, since she just does not have that natural campaigner's charm about her. I know: I quite disliked her back in 2008, when I was an Obama supporter. This time I support Hillary, though. I have come to see that she is actually a very decent person. Flawed, as we all are, to be sure. But smart, dedicated, and with the intention of doing her best. I tend to see her as the grown up version of the earnest, nerdy school girl who is not part of the popular crowd, but who is smart and can get things done. She lacks her husband's easygoing manner, but I think she also lacks his weaknesses. All in all, I think she will make a very good president.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)your are so wrong.the movement is dead with bernie defeat.corporists have defeated progressives.
revolution was defeated.oh well hope everyone likes total republican control for years to come.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)campaign finance reform with a straight face?!? Unbelievable.
MerryBlooms
(11,773 posts)Larkspur
(12,804 posts)but I will NEVER donate to her campaign.
I live in CT, which is a blue state. Her problem will be in the swing states.
MerryBlooms
(11,773 posts)I will donate that money to local Dem campaigns, our local food bank and Chicago PAWS.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Jeez, you'd think that would be the norm in our party. I'm pro-Clinton but by no means anti-Sanders -- I think he's awesome, and if he pulls out the nom I'll happily cast my vote for him.
MerryBlooms
(11,773 posts)on DU, it's a bit different. I think we tend to lean more left here, plus, you have to take into account the grudges here between long-time members. There's quite a bit gets posted just to poke each other. One of the first things I do when I come to GD: P is go through the 1st page and trash all the obvious meta, flame or disingenuous bullcrap. Then I come back and read through posts that seem genuine, and maybe comment and rec.
When it comes down to it, we're all in the same boat, and that boat is in pretty crappy shape. We all want it repaired... it's the method and captain where we differ.
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)Although I know that he's a long shot, Bernie's election in 2016 really is kind of a last chance to turn it around before sinking into a real neoliberal dystopia.
Secy. Clinton is not an honest person, as far as I can tell, and with the media behind her now should have no problem preventing the change we so desperately need.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)I refuse to give up on my hope.
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)If we don't get some changes in the next couple years, I believe it will not happen.
I am 62 and can't keep waiting for the dawn to finally arrive.
Our climate can't wait, our economy can't wait, the 99% can't wait.
We lost our chance of fixing by incremental change about 10 years ago.
There is a reason Bernie Sanders is running at this late stage in his career.
He knows it's now or never.
I will support Bernie until he suspends his campaign.
I agree, "Don't Give Up"!!
Robbins
(5,066 posts)defeat by bernie means corportism has won.democratic party is now a corporist neocon party.any who claim to be progressive are
lying since they endorsed the corporate anti-union pro-war clinton.
get used to permeant republican control over government.clinton will lose in november.and then with gerrymandering and citizen united they will control government for decades to come.
Dems proven they are corrupt anti-progressive party
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)its been 3 states
one big win for bernie
one small win for hillary
one virtual tie
you might want to save the "she is better than a republican" schtick for down the road
some of us are still fighting for bernie NOW
peacebird
(14,195 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
Paulie
(8,462 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
narnian60
(3,510 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)A little too much common cause a little too early for my tastes. I'm not going to make some grandiose statement, but I will say that I'll never (never, ever) forget the way some of this campaign has been conducted. Ever.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)But for the record, I'm not ready to give up. My candidate has a little harder path to travel now, but it can be done. Still, Clinton is the favorite, and I still maintain that if she wins the nomination, she's going to be a very lonely person.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)not throw in the towel. Sheesh!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)of those "supporters". Managing expectations and keeping us focused on "the big picture".
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
Petrushka
(3,709 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
dana_b
(11,546 posts)I can't donate today but he'll get a donation next week.
Bernie or bust!!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all you guys agreeing with this inspired me to make it an op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511287231
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Down ticket
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)My congressman is so up Hillary's butt that it's practically like voting for Hillary anyway.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)So my vote does not count for much
Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)This is a blue state.
My presidential vote doesn't matter.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)MO dems are disgrace.I don't support supporters of candiate that called me racist,sexist,and tea partyer
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)superhero, that is how movements fail.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)So don't give me this hero-worship crap.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)He made up tremendous ground in Nevada, despite Hillary having been there for six months. So he didn't quit finish closing the gap in time. This is the THIRD state, not the 50th. His national polling numbers continue to climb, while hers continue to limp downwards.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)close the gap.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)She was born one, and still supports the bulk of their policies. There is NO 'real change' (at least...no good one) with her. She'll steal more from me, do less for me, and tell me I am a bad woman for not supporting her while doing it. Not doing it again.
For me, and tens of thousands like me, there is only one option. Sanders or no one. Of course, my state isn't up for grabs anyway (it's as safely red as red can be so long as one is following the Establishment red-blue dichotomy that, oddly enough, just seems to be everywhere for some completely unknowable, indeterminate reason. I'm sure it's because primary colors or something), but it would have been nice to see it so.
I haven't given up, because I believe the...'other alternative' can be defeated soundly even with the...'unusual circumstances and unpredictable vagaries of problems that just seem to arise'...whenever she's present.
Vinca
(50,318 posts)And I'm not just saying that because I support Bernie. I agree with you she's better than any Republican, but the attack ads are writing themselves. The right will have the majority of the country believing she belongs in jail, not the White House.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)She is a corporatist war hawk who supports fracking, the 1%, monsanto, and loves her Goldman Handcuffs.
I will never vote for her.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Because I will never vote for We came, we saw, he died.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)I would literally rather get hit by a truck than throw my friends to the mercy of the GOP wolves.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Clinton was expected to win Nevada. We haven't lost the primary yet. Still work to do...
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)ornotna
(10,807 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)America > the Democratic Party.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)If being called a Teabagger isn't bad enough, I don't what is. And they cheat and lie and we have e-mails to go through. I hope those e-mails do her in once and for ALL! And SOON!!!!!!
It's not that I am anti-Clinton, I see the writing on the wall. The GOP will eat her alive come November. And if those e-mails will sink her, rather now than in October.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)NV by 4%. It's not over just beginning.
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)I am too much of a wus to deal with politics, but yet I persevere.
Have wiped away my tears, and am ready for the next fight.
I feel SC is probably not within our reach so I will just keep working hard and fighting for Bernie, the people's president.
On we go.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Because as sure as rain in the springtime, she will lose in the fall. She is not likable enough. Trump will be president (that is so very weird & horrible to say, but its true.) and in 4 years the country will want to kick his incompetent a** out.