2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary spent the Civil Rights Movement, Working For Republicans!
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/hillary-worked-for-goldwater/^snip^
"I wasnt born a Democrat," Hillary Rodham Clinton writes on page one of her autobiography, "Living History."
She grew up in Park Ridge, Ill., a Republican suburb of Chicago, and describes her father, Hugh Rodham Jr., as a "rock-ribbed, up-by-your-bootstraps, conservative Republican and proud of it" (page 11). Her 9th-grade history teacher was also a very conservative Republican who encouraged her to read Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwaters 1960 book, "Conscience of a Conservative," which inspired Clinton to write a term paper on the
Goldwater is remembered for saying, in his speech accepting the Republican nomination for president in 1964, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." He lost to President Lyndon Johnson in a landslide, eking out only 38.5 percent of the popular vote.
Clinton writes that she began to have doubts about Goldwaters politics even before she left high school, when a teacher forced her to play President Johnson during a mock presidential debate in order to "learn about issues from the other side" (page 24). Later, as a junior at Wellesley College, she writes, "I had gone from being a Goldwater Girl to supporting the anti-war campaign of Eugene McCarthy," driving to New Hampshire on weekends to stuff envelopes and walk precincts (pages 32-33). Even so, she also worked as a Washington, D.C., intern for Gerald Ford, who was then the Republican leader of the House, and she attended the 1968 Republican convention to work for New York Gov. Nelson Rockefellers unsuccessful effort to get the GOP presidential nomination (pages 34-35).
Unlike someone else you have the opportunity to support.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)angel123
(79 posts)So glad to see a push back on, "but she was a republican".
bravenak
(34,648 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)protests all over the place in Europe. And in the US, huge anti-war protests, assassinations, riots, demands for change.
For a 21-yr-old to remain part of the Republican establishment during that time seems pretty ridiculous.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)You really don't seem to be making any sense at all.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)REAGAN. She was a kid doing what her parents wanted her to. Trying to please as women were told to do in those days. No WONDER she went FULL FEMINIST.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)This isn't about you.
This isn't about Sen. Warren.
This is about someone who is actually running for President.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I do not care if she was a repub until she finished college. It dont matter. She was a Democrat when I needed her to be for damn sure. I was not born when she was a repub in high school. By time I came she was a strong democratic feminist.
frylock
(34,825 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I will strengthen weed edibles, but not too strong. I will set aside public land for operations to give free weed to cancer patients subsidized by regular smokers. I will remove taxes on snack cakes and cereal. More to come, stay tuned!! I deserve your vote!!
Tanuki
(14,924 posts)Her involvement with Republicans that year was working on an internship through her college's Wellesley in Washington program. The faculty director of the program, Allen Schecter, has said that it was he who made that placement, and that it was not the one she wanted.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)in Vietnam a year later as a draftee.
Each year you worried if you would be drafted
and wondered WHAT THE FUCK YOUR COUNTRY WAS DOING.when your friends or boyfriends in high school were either dead or injured.
21 was a long way off
We saw that and fought against it...... she didn't
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)oasis
(49,429 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)1968 is an important year and it is clear she was still working for Republicans even then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_African-American_Civil_Rights_Movement_(1954%E2%80%9368)
^snip^
Timeline of the African-American Civil Rights Movement (195468)
oasis
(49,429 posts)Got it.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I did not claim that she spent the ENTIRE civil rights movement working for Republicans.
I can see why you would try to discredit my assertion. Can you see how badly you failed?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)besides Lip Service and playing the sax on Arsenio.
Would a Clinton supporter please provide a list of specifics?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)But because of the improvement in the economy under Bill, you can use statistics to show how PoC benefited while he was in office.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)the lower SES began suffering disproportionately. The property bubble and tech bubbles helped some, mostly educated whites and people who already owned property.
Like the Obama Recovery 99% ultimately went to the top 1%.
The suckers and rubes were left holding the bag, and the Middle/Working Class were sucked dry.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)#seethebern
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)The fact that she was still working for (R)s in 1968 is almost unbelievable.
It is hard to explain that away as an isolated incident when she was in high school.
kath
(10,565 posts)repubs at that point.
And by age 21, the vast majority of people have developed a political consciousness. This would be especially true at a liberal and elite college. (It's not like she was attending the Podunk College of Underwater Basketweaving. And even there, young people were still probably upset with Establishment bullshit)
Hell, at age FOURTEEN I was politically aware enough to be deeply appalled at the Kent State massacre, and EXTREMELY disturbed by the "they should have shot more of them" comments.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)who voted against and vowed to overturn the Civil Rights Act.
Why any black or minority would vote for her is beyond me.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)while they trot out the ancient ass nuclear power bill that her husband signed into law
these people are temporally disoriented, but that only helps one speak in doublethink.
radical noodle
(8,015 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Not so much when you see what she really did, now is it?
No desperation here. Just pointing out a fact that you seem uncomfortable with.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)well, some of us do
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)That is simply wiped away?
Just because someone realizes they should not have driven drunk does not excuse them from the punishment, nor does it undo anyone injured or killed because of it.
Hillary has made far to many mistakes. Those hurt or killed because of those mistakes are still hurt or killed. She should be held accountable for her actions.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)but it will be over soon
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)both recent and historical.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)when she was a freshman in college. See, she DOES have executive experience!
Robbins
(5,066 posts)she worked for eugene mccarthy running against LBJ but then went to support Rockefeller for GOP nomination.
She worked on Mcgovern campagin in texas In 1972 but she betreyed everything Mcgovern stood for by embracing war and
Kissinger.
quickesst
(6,283 posts)... and no making shit up, but tell us what you were doing when you were 17. Me, I was chilling on the beach in Huntington California counting down the days till my military service started.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Missed it by about 6 months!
Well, that was his first time around. I did get to vote against him in '84.
quickesst
(6,283 posts)... But I suppose I should have worded the question differently. I should have asked what people were doing at 17 who were raised in a strictly Republican household? Call it back tracking if you want to, but I think it's relevant enough to mention. My parents were not political at all that I'm aware of.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)You should have rephrased your question to ask what our political views were when we were 17.
quickesst
(6,283 posts)Like I said, I believe you. I never went into this believing that there wasn't at least one.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)My mother being a Detroit Public School teacher and my Father, his Father and his Father's Father all working for the same railroad.
Strongly pro union, but besides that......
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Remember flaming segregationist, author of the Southern Manifesto, filibusterer of the Civil Rights Bill, Senator Fulbright? Both Bill and Hillary chose to work for those in power who tried to stop the Civil Rights movement.
6chars
(3,967 posts)"Politician and philanthropist Nelson A. Rockefeller was an outspoken supporter of the civil rights movement. Martin Luther King once said of the four-term governor of New York: If we had one or two governors in the Deep South like Nelson Rockefeller, many of our problems could be readily solved (Walker, 19 October 1962)."
http://kingencyclopedia.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/encyclopedia/enc_rockefeller_nelson_aldrich_1908_1979/
so ...
bornskeptic
(1,330 posts)The Democratic Party had the strongest supporters of Civil Rights and also the strongest opponents of Civil Rights. Many Republicans were strong on Civil Rights. There wasn't the ideological chasm separating the parties that there is today.