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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:47 PM Feb 2016

Hillary spent the Civil Rights Movement, Working For Republicans!

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/hillary-worked-for-goldwater/

^snip^

"I wasn’t born a Democrat," Hillary Rodham Clinton writes on page one of her autobiography, "Living History."

She grew up in Park Ridge, Ill., a Republican suburb of Chicago, and describes her father, Hugh Rodham Jr., as a "rock-ribbed, up-by-your-bootstraps, conservative Republican and proud of it" (page 11). Her 9th-grade history teacher was also a very conservative Republican who encouraged her to read Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater’s 1960 book, "Conscience of a Conservative," which inspired Clinton to write a term paper on the

Goldwater is remembered for saying, in his speech accepting the Republican nomination for president in 1964, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice … and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." He lost to President Lyndon Johnson in a landslide, eking out only 38.5 percent of the popular vote.

Clinton writes that she began to have doubts about Goldwater’s politics even before she left high school, when a teacher forced her to play President Johnson during a mock presidential debate in order to "learn about issues from the other side" (page 24). Later, as a junior at Wellesley College, she writes, "I had gone from being a Goldwater Girl to supporting the anti-war campaign of Eugene McCarthy," driving to New Hampshire on weekends to stuff envelopes and walk precincts (pages 32-33). Even so, she also worked as a Washington, D.C., intern for Gerald Ford, who was then the Republican leader of the House, and she attended the 1968 Republican convention to work for New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller’s unsuccessful effort to get the GOP presidential nomination (pages 34-35).








Unlike someone else you have the opportunity to support.








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Hillary spent the Civil Rights Movement, Working For Republicans! (Original Post) Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 OP
She was a kid. I spent my teenagehood kicking it with the homies. bravenak Feb 2016 #1
She was a republican. angel123 Feb 2016 #2
So was Elizabeth Warren bravenak Feb 2016 #4
She was TWENTY-ONE in 1968. A year when the whole world was exploding with unrest. student kath Feb 2016 #5
I was still kicking it with the homies bravenak Feb 2016 #6
How does that explain Hillary working for Republicans during the Civil Rights Era? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #9
It doesnt anymore than it explains Elizabeth Warren being a Republican before during and after bravenak Feb 2016 #11
Why do you address everyone but Hillary? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #34
Because I did bravenak Feb 2016 #36
We'll remember that when you run for the office of President. frylock Feb 2016 #14
The office of Weed President maybe bravenak Feb 2016 #23
I think we may have finally found common ground. frylock Feb 2016 #25
Yeah. There's always one thing people can agree on bravenak Feb 2016 #30
I am asking for your vote for the Weed Presidency bravenak Feb 2016 #24
She was actually campaigning for Eugene McCarthy. Tanuki Feb 2016 #40
You became politically aware at 17 because you could die Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #41
She was a DEM by her Junior year and supported Eugene McCarthy in 1968. Lucinda Feb 2016 #42
"Goldmanwater Girl" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #3
So when did the "civil rights movement" begin and when did it end? oasis Feb 2016 #7
So splitting hairs is the best defense you can think of? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #8
So Hillary must operate within the time period you provide. oasis Feb 2016 #10
Nope, I am not restricting the time at all. You are the one setting limits. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #15
I would like to know exactly WHAT any Clinton has done for PoC bvar22 Feb 2016 #49
You are asking the wrong guy. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #50
After that great swooshing sound of jobs leaving the US after passing NAFTA, bvar22 Feb 2016 #52
Hillary was a Goldwater girl! zappaman Feb 2016 #12
That is where it started, not where it ended. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #13
yes, 1968 was an EXTREMELY important, pivotal year. it is repulsive that she was still working for kath Feb 2016 #29
Hillary campaigned for a republican presidential candidate gyroscope Feb 2016 #16
Yeah but Weathervaners don't care about that VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #21
Which Republican candidate are you talking about? radical noodle Feb 2016 #51
yes, and she used her senate votes to fund a border wall to keep out "illegal immigrants" amborin Feb 2016 #17
a sure sign of desparation if you have to reach back 50 years DrDan Feb 2016 #18
Those unable to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. n/t Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #19
pardon, your desparation is showing even more DrDan Feb 2016 #28
I thought Hillary's lifetime of experience was a plus for her. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #32
not I sir - I think folks change, evolve, grow . . . DrDan Feb 2016 #35
and the damage done by their mistakes? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #38
well . . . as I said, your desparation is showing DrDan Feb 2016 #43
Her record is consistently poor, gyroscope Feb 2016 #20
exactly why Clyburn endorsed her DrDan Feb 2016 #26
Article didn't mention her being President of Young Republicans... Ino Feb 2016 #22
Think about this Robbins Feb 2016 #27
Let's hear from Bernie's supporters.... quickesst Feb 2016 #31
I was wishing I was old enough to vote against Ronald Reagan. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #33
And I believe you... quickesst Feb 2016 #37
My Irish Catholic, Nixon supporting Parents are rolling over in their graves! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #39
I'll stick with what I've got quickesst Feb 2016 #44
Full disclosure, my parents were pro-union Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #46
Bill was also working for a pro segregation senator at the same time Oilwellian Feb 2016 #45
Rockefeller was an outspoken supporter of the civil rights movement. 6chars Feb 2016 #47
Rather than the party of George Wallace and Lester Maddox? bornskeptic Feb 2016 #48

kath

(10,565 posts)
5. She was TWENTY-ONE in 1968. A year when the whole world was exploding with unrest. student
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:17 PM
Feb 2016

protests all over the place in Europe. And in the US, huge anti-war protests, assassinations, riots, demands for change.

For a 21-yr-old to remain part of the Republican establishment during that time seems pretty ridiculous.


 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
9. How does that explain Hillary working for Republicans during the Civil Rights Era?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:31 PM
Feb 2016


You really don't seem to be making any sense at all.





 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
11. It doesnt anymore than it explains Elizabeth Warren being a Republican before during and after
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

REAGAN. She was a kid doing what her parents wanted her to. Trying to please as women were told to do in those days. No WONDER she went FULL FEMINIST.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
34. Why do you address everyone but Hillary?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

This isn't about you.

This isn't about Sen. Warren.

This is about someone who is actually running for President.


 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
36. Because I did
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

I do not care if she was a repub until she finished college. It dont matter. She was a Democrat when I needed her to be for damn sure. I was not born when she was a repub in high school. By time I came she was a strong democratic feminist.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
24. I am asking for your vote for the Weed Presidency
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:49 PM
Feb 2016

I will strengthen weed edibles, but not too strong. I will set aside public land for operations to give free weed to cancer patients subsidized by regular smokers. I will remove taxes on snack cakes and cereal. More to come, stay tuned!! I deserve your vote!!

Tanuki

(14,924 posts)
40. She was actually campaigning for Eugene McCarthy.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

Her involvement with Republicans that year was working on an internship through her college's Wellesley in Washington program. The faculty director of the program, Allen Schecter, has said that it was he who made that placement, and that it was not the one she wanted.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
41. You became politically aware at 17 because you could die
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:10 PM
Feb 2016

in Vietnam a year later as a draftee.

Each year you worried if you would be drafted
and wondered WHAT THE FUCK YOUR COUNTRY WAS DOING.when your friends or boyfriends in high school were either dead or injured.

21 was a long way off

We saw that and fought against it...... she didn't

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
8. So splitting hairs is the best defense you can think of?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:29 PM
Feb 2016

1968 is an important year and it is clear she was still working for Republicans even then.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_African-American_Civil_Rights_Movement_(1954%E2%80%9368)

^snip^

Timeline of the African-American Civil Rights Movement (1954–68)


 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. Nope, I am not restricting the time at all. You are the one setting limits.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:38 PM
Feb 2016

I did not claim that she spent the ENTIRE civil rights movement working for Republicans.


I can see why you would try to discredit my assertion. Can you see how badly you failed?



bvar22

(39,909 posts)
49. I would like to know exactly WHAT any Clinton has done for PoC
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:27 PM
Feb 2016

besides Lip Service and playing the sax on Arsenio.

Would a Clinton supporter please provide a list of specifics?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
50. You are asking the wrong guy.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:29 PM
Feb 2016

But because of the improvement in the economy under Bill, you can use statistics to show how PoC benefited while he was in office.


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
52. After that great swooshing sound of jobs leaving the US after passing NAFTA,
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:57 PM
Feb 2016

the lower SES began suffering disproportionately. The property bubble and tech bubbles helped some, mostly educated whites and people who already owned property.
Like the Obama Recovery 99% ultimately went to the top 1%.
The suckers and rubes were left holding the bag, and the Middle/Working Class were sucked dry.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
13. That is where it started, not where it ended.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:36 PM
Feb 2016

The fact that she was still working for (R)s in 1968 is almost unbelievable.


It is hard to explain that away as an isolated incident when she was in high school.



kath

(10,565 posts)
29. yes, 1968 was an EXTREMELY important, pivotal year. it is repulsive that she was still working for
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:52 PM
Feb 2016

repubs at that point.

And by age 21, the vast majority of people have developed a political consciousness. This would be especially true at a liberal and elite college. (It's not like she was attending the Podunk College of Underwater Basketweaving. And even there, young people were still probably upset with Establishment bullshit)

Hell, at age FOURTEEN I was politically aware enough to be deeply appalled at the Kent State massacre, and EXTREMELY disturbed by the "they should have shot more of them" comments.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
16. Hillary campaigned for a republican presidential candidate
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:39 PM
Feb 2016

who voted against and vowed to overturn the Civil Rights Act.

Why any black or minority would vote for her is beyond me.


VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
21. Yeah but Weathervaners don't care about that
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:43 PM
Feb 2016

while they trot out the ancient ass nuclear power bill that her husband signed into law

these people are temporally disoriented, but that only helps one speak in doublethink.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
32. I thought Hillary's lifetime of experience was a plus for her.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:54 PM
Feb 2016

Not so much when you see what she really did, now is it?



No desperation here. Just pointing out a fact that you seem uncomfortable with.



 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
38. and the damage done by their mistakes?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Feb 2016

That is simply wiped away?


Just because someone realizes they should not have driven drunk does not excuse them from the punishment, nor does it undo anyone injured or killed because of it.

Hillary has made far to many mistakes. Those hurt or killed because of those mistakes are still hurt or killed. She should be held accountable for her actions.




Ino

(3,366 posts)
22. Article didn't mention her being President of Young Republicans...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:45 PM
Feb 2016

when she was a freshman in college. See, she DOES have executive experience!

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
27. Think about this
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:51 PM
Feb 2016

she worked for eugene mccarthy running against LBJ but then went to support Rockefeller for GOP nomination.

She worked on Mcgovern campagin in texas In 1972 but she betreyed everything Mcgovern stood for by embracing war and
Kissinger.

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
31. Let's hear from Bernie's supporters....
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:53 PM
Feb 2016

... and no making shit up, but tell us what you were doing when you were 17. Me, I was chilling on the beach in Huntington California counting down the days till my military service started.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
33. I was wishing I was old enough to vote against Ronald Reagan.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:55 PM
Feb 2016

Missed it by about 6 months!


Well, that was his first time around. I did get to vote against him in '84.



quickesst

(6,283 posts)
37. And I believe you...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Feb 2016

... But I suppose I should have worded the question differently. I should have asked what people were doing at 17 who were raised in a strictly Republican household? Call it back tracking if you want to, but I think it's relevant enough to mention. My parents were not political at all that I'm aware of.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
39. My Irish Catholic, Nixon supporting Parents are rolling over in their graves!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

You should have rephrased your question to ask what our political views were when we were 17.


quickesst

(6,283 posts)
44. I'll stick with what I've got
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:18 PM
Feb 2016

Like I said, I believe you. I never went into this believing that there wasn't at least one.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
46. Full disclosure, my parents were pro-union
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:22 PM
Feb 2016

My mother being a Detroit Public School teacher and my Father, his Father and his Father's Father all working for the same railroad.

Strongly pro union, but besides that......




Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
45. Bill was also working for a pro segregation senator at the same time
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:18 PM
Feb 2016

Remember flaming segregationist, author of the Southern Manifesto, filibusterer of the Civil Rights Bill, Senator Fulbright? Both Bill and Hillary chose to work for those in power who tried to stop the Civil Rights movement.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
47. Rockefeller was an outspoken supporter of the civil rights movement.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:35 PM
Feb 2016

"Politician and philanthropist Nelson A. Rockefeller was an outspoken supporter of the civil rights movement. Martin Luther King once said of the four-term governor of New York: ‘‘If we had one or two governors in the Deep South like Nelson Rockefeller, many of our problems could be readily solved’’ (Walker, 19 October 1962)."

http://kingencyclopedia.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/encyclopedia/enc_rockefeller_nelson_aldrich_1908_1979/

so ...

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
48. Rather than the party of George Wallace and Lester Maddox?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:50 PM
Feb 2016

The Democratic Party had the strongest supporters of Civil Rights and also the strongest opponents of Civil Rights. Many Republicans were strong on Civil Rights. There wasn't the ideological chasm separating the parties that there is today.

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