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Related: About this forumFormer Dem official tells Bernie Sanders to go fuck himself
Former Dem official: 'Go f--- yourself, Bernie'
By Harper Neidig
A former deputy executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) on Friday lashed out at presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders in a post on Medium titled "Go f--- yourself, Bernie."
The post was in response to Sanders implying that rival Hillary Clinton was praising President Obama in order to "win support from the African American community where the President is enormously popular."
"Its not just Black people that love Obama. The President is 'enormously popular' among all Democrats. Welcome to the Party," former DCCC official Brandon English wrote in his post.
"Do you have any idea how belittling it is to reduce Obama to the President that the Blacks like?"
Read more:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/270121-former-democratic-official-go-f-yourself-bernie
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)sneaky little
kristopher
(29,798 posts)World's Happiest Countries? Social Democracies
by
Craig Brown
A new report released by the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) shows that happiness levels are highest in northern European countries.
Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands rated at the top of the list, ranking first, second and third, respectively.
The US? As expected, the United States failed to make the top 10 but ranked among the highest for obesity and child poverty. Americans spend less than half the amount of time eating as the French, but have three times the obesity rate. This tells us something about slow food, I think, Simon Chappele, editor of the report said in an interview with NPR.
The report also showed the United States has the lowest mean age for women when they first gave birth, at 25.1 years old.
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2009/05/11/worlds-happiest-countries-social-democracies
06/05/2015
Denmarks residents are the most satisfied with their lives, according to the Better Life Index released Monday. According to the study, published annually by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the United States failed to crack the top 10 for the fifth consecutive year.
The Better Life Index rates the 34 OECD member nations, as well as Brazil and the Russian Federation, on 22 variables that contribute to overall well-being, including income, education, housing, health, and life satisfaction. 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the 10 countries with the highest life satisfaction score.
A healthy job market is one of the most important factors contributing to higher life evaluations. Employment rates the percentage of the working-age population that is employed were higher in each of the 10 countries with the highest life satisfaction score than the average employment rate for the countries reviewed.
Conversely, countries with relatively unhealthy job markets had lower life satisfaction scores. Unemployment rates were above 8.5% in seven of the 10 least happy countries, while they were lower than 7% in all but two of the happiest countries.
Healthy labor markets not only help promote job security, but also they can ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/05/these-are-the-happiest-co_n_7521674.html
The above are taken from this ongoing research by the UN.
http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/topics/life-satisfaction/
Life Satisfaction
Background
Measuring feelings can be very subjective, but is nonetheless a useful complement to more objective data when comparing quality of life across countries. Subjective data can provide a personal evaluation of an individuals health, education, income, personal fulfilment and social conditions. Surveys, in particular, are used to measure life satisfaction and happiness.
Life satisfaction
Life satisfaction measures how people evaluate their life as a whole rather than their current feelings. When asked to rate their general satisfaction with life on a scale from 0 to 10, people across the OECD gave it a 6.6 grade. Life satisfaction is not evenly shared across the OECD however. Some countries Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Portugal and Turkey have a relatively low level of overall life satisfaction, with average scores of less than 5.6. At the other end of the scale, scores reach 7.5 in Denmark, Iceland and Switzerland. There is almost no difference in life satisfaction levels between men and women across OECD countries. However, when looking at peoples education level, there is a clear difference: whereas people who have only completed primary education across OECD countries have a life satisfaction level of 5.9, this score reaches 7 for people with tertiary education....
Details by country...
And then we have business climate:
http://www.forbes.com/best-countries-for-business/list/#tab verall
Rank Name GDP Growth GDP per Capita Trade Balance/GDP Population
#1 Denmark 1.1% $44,600 6.3% 5.6 M
#2 New Zealand 3.3% $35,300 -3.2% 4.4 M
#3 Norway 2.2% $67,200 9.4% 5.2 M
#4 Ireland 5.2% $51,300 3.7% 4.9 M
#5 Sweden 2.3% $46,200 6.2% 9.8 M
#6 Finland -0.4% $40,700 -1.8% 5.5 M
#7 Canada 2.4% $45,000 -2.1% 35.1 M
#8 Singapore 2.9% $83,100 19.1% 5.7 M
#9 Netherlands 1% $48,000 10.4% 16.9 M
#10 United Kingdom 3% $39,800 -5.9% 64.1 M
#11 Hong Kong 2.5% $55,100 1.9% 7.1 M
#12 Switzerland 1.9% $58,100 7.2% 8.1 M
#13 Iceland 1.8% $44,000 3.6% 0.3 M
#14 Australia 2.7% $46,600 -3% 22.8 M
#15 Belgium 1.1% $43,100 1.6% 11.3 M
#16 Portugal 0.9% $27,100 0.6% 10.8 M
#17 Lithuania 3% $27,300 0.1% 2.9 M
#18 Germany 1.6% $46,200 7.4% 80.9 M
#19 Estonia 2.9% $27,900 0.1% 1.3 M
#20 Slovenia 3% $29,900 6.9% 2 M
#21 Taiwan 3.8% $46,000 12.4% 23.4 M
#22 United States 2.4% $54,400 -2.2% 321.4 M
#23 Japan -0.1% $37,500 0.5% 126.9 M
A crash course in social democracy.
By Ann JonesJANUARY 28, 2016
http://www.thenation.com/article/after-i-lived-in-norway-america-felt-backward-heres-why/
amborin
(16,631 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)global1
(25,285 posts)why Hillary is invoking his name.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)global1
(25,285 posts)but in this tight political race she is trying to hang on to the Black vote and playing keep away from Bernie.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Amazing how people forget.
frylock
(34,825 posts)that has turned to a very strong disliking this campaign.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Go figure....
frylock
(34,825 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)"You give me your super delegates, I'll appoint you to a Cabinet position of your choice."
It's no surprise that Hillary left the State Department just a couple of weeks after Obama started his 2nd term.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)... where this was even mentioned.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)But it doesn't take a lot to see that there was some bad blood between Clinton and Obama during the primary, that Hillary had lots of super delegates and, seeing that she wasn't going to get the nomination, was holding out for something. I'm pretty sure Obama didn't appreciate her off-the-cuff remarks about Gaddhafi's death, and starting a possible war with Iran. And almost as soon as Obama had been sworn in for his 2nd term, Hillary was out of the State Department.
deathrind
(1,786 posts)HRC and her supporters were vicious towards President Obama.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)here is your man
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... who as a former campaign associate of Clinton's pushed her to be SOS to Obama.
And of course we saw how much of a "friend" to Democrats and POC Emanuel was with the way he was messing up Chicago's school system and also arguably had staff covering up that shooting incident of another POC about the time when he was facing reelection.
frylock
(34,825 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)He was correctly stating that because he is popular also with blacks, that Hillary is using him to play the black voters. Hillary has an ulterior motive for every move she makes. It's marketing. They know and use marketing techniques as well as the Republicans.
angel123
(79 posts)Pray tell, what the heck is Bernie doing? Hillary's motives are no more ulterior than Bernie's. They both are pandering to Black and Latino voters. If they didn't, we would accuse them of poor managing. Stop with accusing Hillary and her supporters of all sort of evil intent.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Only not.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Hillary's have not. She is riding on the coattails of her husband's popularity with the black community. If she didn't have that and her name recognition their support would not be hers to lose.
So yes, she is pandering because her policy doesn't back up her rhetoric.
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Beacool
(30,253 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)https://medium.com/@brandonenglish/go-fuck-yourself-bernie-964c7b4a5f0c#.zcng0qlmi
think
(11,641 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)H2O Man
(73,637 posts)Brandon appears to have suffered from an emotional meltdown.
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)Blacks.
What I find incredibly amusing about the Clinton surrogates is their ability to take any sentence - any idea - and stretch it out to mean something much more extreme and simple than it actually is. They truly are the kings and queens of simple sound bites to mislead people.
Trouble is - more and more people are seeing through this kind of politics. That Sanders is doing so well in spite of their bull is a testament to his popularity.
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cui bono
(19,926 posts)So funny that in response to an OP about someone lashing out petulantly AT Bernie, you turn it around and accuse Bernie of doing that. How very Rovian of you.
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DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Bernie is a new member of the Democratic Party. He needs some time to understand what the party is about although I suspect his membership will end in June or November.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)It's the leadership that has lost their (Third) way.
Bernie thanks you for your condescension, you anonymous internet poster you, though.
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frylock
(34,825 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)When Cheney said it to someone - was it Leahy? - in the Senate?
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Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I doubt the brain trust behind bernie's campaign could give a shit sadly.
They will reap what they have sown real soon.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)She had an entire OP about how we're not supposed to criticize Obama if we want the black vote.
It's Bernie supporters who questioned that, saying that black people can think for themselves and aren't going to like Obama just because he's black.
Maybe you can send her a pm.
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)oasis
(49,429 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)oasis
(49,429 posts)Even though Hillary would still have SC and Super Tuesday states in her pocket.
As it stands now, we'll see less super delegate outrage threads on GD-P.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Yup, but its a whole new morning today.
Ive been waiting for this time for months.
Was banned two or three times from the Bernie Underground for the sin of supporting Hillary.
Now the firewall victory in Nevada followed by a huge blowout in SC for Hillary and she locks up the nomination super tuesday!
Man I've been waiting FOREVER for this day to come!!
oasis
(49,429 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cha
(297,818 posts)Hillary Clinton Verified account
?@HillaryClinton
The feeling is mutual, Nevada.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Fairgo
(1,571 posts)Used to worry the dog something awful...
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Boomer
(4,170 posts)But I may have reached the end of that relationship. The DNC and the DCCC don't hold my values, they're not fighting what I think is wrong with this country.
If Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat, then I'm probably not either. If Bernie loses the nomination, then it's time for me to throw in the towel as well and register as an Independent from now on.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Third Way!
Why is it okay for left leaning republicans to masquerade as democrats in our party? Why is it okay for them to come in and make up new subgroups to change our core value and drag us to the right? Sorry, I'm not buying what they're selling.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)"Buy this marvelous elixir and we'll guarantee that we might appoint someone who has a couple of semi-progressive values to the Supreme Court!"
Vinca
(50,318 posts)Of course, then we'd be treated to: "It's all Bernie's fault that Hillary lost. He should have run as a Democrat."
livetohike
(22,165 posts)Have been hard for him to get his message out.
Vinca
(50,318 posts)Bernie's not a shrinking violet. He would have "pulled a Trump" and called into news shows on a daily basis and other things to bring attention to himself.
jfern
(5,204 posts)if the party doesn't stop with such scorched earth tacticts against him.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)Brandon English no speak good English.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)#feelthebern
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HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Burn those bridges!...and good luck in the GE if you steal the nomination for Hillary.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)The Democratic party has become anything but democratic.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Eh, fuck it. Doesn't matter. The party's gone to the pigs as it is.
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demwing
(16,916 posts)Bernie told no lies...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1284217
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This is offensive on so many levels. It implies that AAs are unable to know their own minds, but are just pawns to the people they actively support. Disgusting.
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Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Even simple knowledge of human anatomy seems beyond the grasp of ( some ) Clintonites.
And if he denies this is true:
>>> Hillary Clinton was praising President Obama in order to "win support from the African American community where the President is enormously popular." >>>>
He's either a liar, or too stupid to serve responsibly on any Dem Party committee... much less DCCC.
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)in cozying up to PBO.. all we have to do is compare what she said about him now to what she said about him in 2008...She's not called Candidate Weather-vane for no reason.
Agony
(2,605 posts)"Mr Cheney told Vermont's senator, Patrick Leahy to "fuck yourself", after he apparently approached George Bush's number two for a chat."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jun/26/usa.dickcheney
riversedge
(70,356 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Did they have any idea what the guy has been saying since 1992?
frylock
(34,825 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)I love it when life imitates good art.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)TW/DNC shill, nothing more, nothing less...
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)I hope he enjoys the tack for parsing words.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)and Hillary's people have the nerve to criticize Bernie supporters!
jillan
(39,451 posts)Cha
(297,818 posts)Gracias, Cali!
Hillary Clinton Verified account
?@HillaryClinton
The feeling is mutual, Nevada.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)Just not "First".
Tarheel_Dem
(31,245 posts)On Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:16 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Former Dem official tells Bernie Sanders to go fuck himself
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511283337
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really disruptive, incendiary, insensitive, over the top and expresses real hatred and venom toward Senator Sanders
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Number23
(24,544 posts)DAYYYYUUUMMM!!!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Brandon English
(7 posts)Hey all - can't tell you weird it is to wake up on your vacation and see a bunch of people talking about the post you wrote. Figured I'd pop in to say hi and thanks for the feedback -- even the GFYs.
Also wanted to share a few clarifying points:
1. What's that line they use in the infomercials? The views expressed don't reflect the views of my former employer or anyone else but me. I'm not affiliated with any campaign. I'm just a guy on vacation with an opinion.
2. When I wrote the post I wasn't thinking about Hillary. I was thinking about Obama. I'm a fan. I understand if folks aren't as big a fan as I am. That's totally fine. My problem is when Obama is minimized to, as I said, the President that the Blacks like. Both because it's factually wrong -- the polls show Democrats overwhelming approve of Obama -- and because I'm defensive about Obama being painted into the corner of just the Black President for a bunch of historical and cultural reasons.
3. If Hillary said the same thing, I would've written the same post.
4. If Steve King said the same thing I'd be annoyed. But he's a Republican so I wouldn't be surprised. I expected better from Bernie.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)President Obama having huge support from the black community and him having huge support from the entire party aren't mutually exclusive. Clinton suddenly choosing to go full on super fan just as the race heads into states with large black populations however was not exactly subtle.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)You said what many have thought. And now it's on to NC!
polly7
(20,582 posts)Sanders would never stoop that low - he doesn't have it in him, would love to see what you thought about her back then?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/hillarys-hypocrisy-clinging-to-obama-after-her-racist-dog-whistles-in-2008_b_9011244.html
Marr
(20,317 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)...realize that Obama forgave them long ago and has had a close working relationship with them, 3. Clinton is conituing using those words in any narrative.
I would ignore it too...
It's similar to "I never ran against him" crap that Sanders recites every time someone points out his conssumate bashing of Obama
Number23
(24,544 posts)The ones that will allow NO discussion of anything that Bernie Sanders has said or done without immediately pivoting to "b-bbut what about Hillary??!"
Ignoring them has become a bit of a DU tradition this primary and one that will keep you from pouring gasoline over your computer and setting it alight. Keep doing that and you'll be just fine.
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)But I don't think that's what Bernie was trying to imply. It is true that while plenty of us are still big supporters of the president, his highest approval ratings are with black voters, many of whom who are (rightfully) very proud to have him as president (as are many others, myself included). Clinton knows that, and she probably is praising him a lot in part because of it, although I do think she has come to genuinely respect him despite the contentious 2008 primaries. I don't think Bernie said or even implied that only blacks support Obama. I was and still am a huge Obama supporter and I was not offended by the comment.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)It seems an appropriate response to a shitty statement.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)Red Knight
(704 posts)That's what it seems like some of these posts are designed to do.
It just looks very suspicious.
Sadly, it may work. I hope not.
But it may.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... until I see it coming out of his mouth.
If so then I feel the same way too
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)As a 2008 Obama supporter, it felt very weird to me when I watched the last debate to see her wrapping herself around Obama in the same forums she used to attack him in. I don't doubt that her praise is genuine, as I believe she and Obama came to respect each other in the years since 2008. But I do think she is playing it up right now because South Carolina is coming up, and that's what Bernie called her out on. He never said or implied that Obama only has support from black voters.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... of FDR legislatively (amount not size and scope) and as popular as JFK on avg polling inside of DNC.
Why wouldn't she!?! it makes no sense NOT too!!!
Sanders statement inside reality doesn't make sense seeing the abnormal popularity of Obama inside dem circles.
Has Obama fucked up on some things?! HOPEFULLY!!! He's not a robot...
but
I don't think what he's done deserves Sanders scorn overall and this statement fits a narrative about Sanders that he just doesn't like Obama seeing he had a vile racilalzed surrogate in West associated with his campaign.
Will I bang on doors for Sanders?! Of course...
Will I do it with the expectation that Sanders will speak up when a person of color is murdered by a sKeered cop to sooth the souls of this type of legal oppression..
no...
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Many of us are saying WTF.