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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:36 AM Feb 2016

How does she do it?

I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling occasionally frustrated that I don't know what the Clinton campaign's answer is to this or that new allegation. Just a couple of weeks ago, I thought FINALLY, when a spokesperson explained a missing piece for me. He pointed out that there is an inter-agency disagreement (state and defense) because Hillary's e-mails are destined to be made public, and they sometimes have different standards for what they now wish to keep from the public. A small point that maybe most people understood. Still, I was glad to hear it explained.

And then I got involved in this website and saw first hand the enormous flood of distortions and baseless allegations that are flung at Hillary. I see much better now why she mostly declines to discuss them. It would take up all her time. It's mind boggling. I expect the campaign has well-honed procedures whereby they determine that something has gained enough momentum that it needs to be addressed. Procedures honed over decades. Remember when the allegation was being made that she killed Vince Foster????

How does she do it? It certainly works out in my mind as a strong recommendation for her having the grit and poise to be President!

Note: I recommend TruthorFiction.com as a place to get a clear story.

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How does she do it? (Original Post) LAS14 Feb 2016 OP
Fail berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #1
Nope the only failures are Republicans. leftofcool Feb 2016 #4
" this posts has been hidden by a DU Jury" DanTex. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #7
Ok because you say so oh mighty one. nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #19
She has virtually all the advantages of an incumbent cali Feb 2016 #2
She has all the disadvantages Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #3
Sure, but Hillary has the advantages of being a woman too cali Feb 2016 #6
I would have to disagree Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #10
+ 1000, well stated. nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #20
Thanks for being so articulate in waving the flag. nt LAS14 Feb 2016 #21
This Bernie supporter appreciates your balance. Qutzupalotl Feb 2016 #29
So you're saying she is a victim of her gender? notadmblnd Feb 2016 #27
Yes, indeed Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #30
That's the message I got from your post. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #32
Good Post, LAS. leftofcool Feb 2016 #5
I'm not looking for grit and poise... Paka Feb 2016 #8
Right on Got it Feb 2016 #13
Welcome to DU! Paka Feb 2016 #17
Word whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #25
K&R DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #9
Maybe she tells us how she does it in those speeches for Goldman Sachs Android3.14 Feb 2016 #11
Yes, the fact that she set up a private server! to conduct GOVT business on while also working RiverLover Feb 2016 #12
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #15
+100000 Paka Feb 2016 #18
Does anyone know why post #15 (below) was locked 6-1? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #26
Citing Glen Beck's web site would be my guess. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #33
I see. I should've guessed. Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #34
Lol. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #14
It would be nice if the FBI would wrap up its investigation. Vinca Feb 2016 #16
Great post. Thanks for posting. nt kstewart33 Feb 2016 #22
Reply to message #15 LAS14 Feb 2016 #23
A possible federal indictment makes you think she's the best person for President? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #24
How does she do it? Dodging all that sniper fire in Bosnia made her a fighter! Oh wait ... nt kelly1mm Feb 2016 #28
Oh yes the poor dear, she's had to endure so much! Avalux Feb 2016 #31
Cool story Bruh. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #35
The ability to deflect and hide information is a recommendation? Armstead Feb 2016 #36

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
4. Nope the only failures are Republicans.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:35 AM
Feb 2016

Those Republicans who have spent years trying to find anything on the Clintons. I know how much you wish that there was just one little thing in one little email with which to hang Hillary. Even if there was a snowballs' chance in hell of finding anything, Bernie will still never be President of this country.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. She has virtually all the advantages of an incumbent
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:54 AM
Feb 2016

He as nothing but the enthusiasm of regular people. He started off with huge handicaps. She should have swept Iowa a d NH. She didn't.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
3. She has all the disadvantages
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:07 AM
Feb 2016

of being someone who has been publicly attacked for more than 25 years, and who also is a woman.

Bernie has all the advantages of being a shiny new presence (since few really knew much about him until a few months ago) who has not yet been vetted, plus of being a man in a game that so far is men 44, woman 0.

See how you can simply argue the other way around?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. Sure, but Hillary has the advantages of being a woman too
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:36 AM
Feb 2016

That works both ways. And she brought on some of the attacks. In any case, her advantages far outweigh her disadvantages. She has the democratic establishment putting both hands on the scale. Hillary's worst problem is... Hillary.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
10. I would have to disagree
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:28 AM
Feb 2016

While there are some, like me, who like the fact that Hillary is a woman, there are a lot more people who are subconsciously react against her, judge her more harshly, etc., because of that. History, even modern history, does not exactly show being female as a huge advantage when it comes to public life.

Yes, having the Democratic establishment can be an advantage. Except in an Age of Anger, which we clearly are in. There is no doubt that at least part of Bernie's success so far has to do with the anti-establishment anger that has developed over the last several years. (Trump benefits from the right wing version of this, although of course he and Bernie have little else in common.)

The reality is that Bernie has a lot going for him. Hillary has the advantage of being a known figure and of having the establishment for her. But those can also be disadvantages, and I must say, the Bernie campaign has very successfully turned those into disadvantages for her. Bernie has the disadvantage of being a relative unknown, to be sure, but with an electorate that likes shiny and new, and in a time of anger, that can be an advantage.

I'm not saying any of this to diss your candidate (I like him just fine, although I strongly prefer Hillary, for various reasons). I just think that the picture is complex, and both candidates have things going for and against them in the primaries, just like either one would have things going for or against them in the general.

Qutzupalotl

(14,335 posts)
29. This Bernie supporter appreciates your balance.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:12 PM
Feb 2016

I don't disagree with anything you said (except your preference).

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
27. So you're saying she is a victim of her gender?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

And we should feel sorry for her and vote for her because her genitals are not those of a man's?

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
30. Yes, indeed
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:27 PM
Feb 2016

that is EXACTLY what I said. It all comes down to genitals. The moment a woman's gender is mentioned, it's just genitals everywhere.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
8. I'm not looking for grit and poise...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:02 AM
Feb 2016

...I'm looking for integrity and a strong moral compass.

GO BERNIE!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
11. Maybe she tells us how she does it in those speeches for Goldman Sachs
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:38 AM
Feb 2016

Or maybe she had an epiphany when she was dodging those bullets from the sniper?

Maybe she gained the ability to "do it" when she voted for the Iraq War Resolution.

Grit and poise in a dissembling, democracy undermining, lying puppet of the corporations is a lousy attribute for a Democratic Party candidate.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
12. Yes, the fact that she set up a private server! to conduct GOVT business on while also working
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:43 AM
Feb 2016

with the Clinton Foundation establishes her 'grit' to be our president.

As my dad says, she's as crooked as a dog's leg.

I'm so incredibly ashamed such a corrupt person is being fully backed by my party.

And no one cares she is for job-killing trade that sends our jobs overseas so others can work at slave wages.

And no one cares she is the largest beneficiary of fossil fuel company donations, and wall street.

Do you think they want her to win because she will work against their profit over people agendas?

And she's against labeling our food so Americans can make informed choices on whether they eat GMO foods or not. BigAg gives big as well. Monsanto, Sygenta, Bayer....so much for giving a damn about our butterflies & bees.

War! Profiteers on our endless wars love Hillary too. Private prison owner who profit from more inmates as well.

The whole thing disgusts me. This OP disgusts me.

She is purchased & corrupt & is fooling a whole lot of people.

Enjoy your status quo corruption & the continued downfall of America if she wins & continues the trend Of republican policies in the name of the Democratic Party.

You can have it.



Response to RiverLover (Reply #12)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
26. Does anyone know why post #15 (below) was locked 6-1?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe I'm just slow this morning, but I don't see the controversy with that post.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
14. Lol.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:09 AM
Feb 2016

Yeah, the documented fact that the head of a gov't department set up her own email servers so she and her special buds could use them and not be subject to FOIA as long as they were emailing each other is EXACTLY like phony rumours that she murdered someone.

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
16. It would be nice if the FBI would wrap up its investigation.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:19 AM
Feb 2016

The majority of people are aware the FBI doesn't start an investigation unless they think a crime has been committed. If she becomes the nominee and still has that as a cloud over her head we could have a very bad outcome. If you've paid any attention at all to politics, you would know that facts don't matter. The entire Trump campaign as based on that and he's winning.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
23. Reply to message #15
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:47 PM
Feb 2016

I saw to my surprise that you can actually look at a message hidden by jury decision. I couldn't disagree more with the writer's opinion that this is worth pursuing, but I certainly think Dupper has the right to express his/her opinion! There was no obscenity. No ad hominem attacks. I didn't bother to follow the link,since it was just someone's opinion, but if Dupper was only pointing to what someone else said, then so what? The jury said it was "disruptive, insensitive, hurtful, rude, over-the-top or otherwise inappropriate.

You can see it by clicking SHOW, and I'd like to donate this post as a place where you can reply to it and agree all you want. Hillary, I'm sure, does not want to be "protected" by incursions on our precious right of free speech.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
24. A possible federal indictment makes you think she's the best person for President?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:50 PM
Feb 2016

I use different selection criteria.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
31. Oh yes the poor dear, she's had to endure so much!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

It's really sweet of you to come here and put us all in our place and set us straight. What about all the lies she's told, and the ugly campaign tactics she's using again Bernie? I supposed you want us to give her a pass on all of that, right? After all she can't help it, she's only trying to win what's rightfully hers.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
36. The ability to deflect and hide information is a recommendation?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:43 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe in certain authoritarian states....

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