2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWe have two candidates who are great on racial and gender issues. But racism and sexism are....
...wedge issues in the primary campaign.
That's just sickening.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Just a 'wedge' issue you say?
Hey y'all!! We are just WEDGE issues!!!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You want to talk about race in the general Election against some Republican who wants to cut the safety net, disenfranchise black voters, push a "law and order" agenda, keep out and track Muslims, cut off all programs intended to advance minority rights, deport immigrants and deny the path to citizenship, etc. I'm with you.
But in this primary with these candidates? No. Their differences are not over those issues.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Giving a free pass to ignore the issue in the primaries does not help US one bit at all. We should never stop bringing it up every day, it exists everyday, it effects us everyday, it harms us everyday, so f that we gon discuss it in primaries. Y'all don't make up the rules for us. Thats too easy.
Then we gon talk about in the general too. We ROP. We run our own program.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)and I'm getting damn sick of it being used as a divisive issue in this particular primary.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)that's called democracy
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cause If I'm alive, it WILL COME UP
Armstead
(47,803 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)These wedge issues are just that - wedges - to drive us apart so that the powerful can maintain their power.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Funny. It's a big issue to BLACK PEOPLE
Avalux
(35,015 posts)It won't be solved by the next president either. Racism is woven into the fabric of our society and must be driven out by all of us over time. Not any single one person can fix it, there's no panacea no matter what Hillary tells you.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)And hillary tells me nothing. But the fact that folks want us to shut up about it and minimize it as not important tells me that they are not the side who will ever even try to do anything
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Sure, some people use racism and sexism to be divisive, but we can't ignore the differences between our own candidates on these issues. How will things ever improve, if we brush these issues under the rug?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)It is the economy stupid.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)forgive me but after doing a shit load of reading into things like 1996 Welfare Act, if one side insists in using it as a wedge, it is time to point out the damage that has done to single AA women, and their children and the growth of poverty. And how fundamentally that was a way to reduce the rolls from people who were traditionally denied access to welfare.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Punches require counterpunches.
I am just sickened by the whole dynamic of it all being casyt in those terms....Much as I get worked up about the arguments about "socialism" and stuff, they at least are valid points of dispute.
In regards to 1996 Welfare Deform, for example, while it may have had that effect disproportionately, it had a larger impact, and typified the gutting of the social safety net and the shrinking of opportunities for anyone to get ahead.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)this election is about 1996, and the Crime Control Act of 1994... as well as Reagan and even both Bushes.
This is a battle for the soul of the nation. (Why I am working on that hard reading) I need to get my ducks (data) on a row as it were.
But I think that we are getting to the point that if that is the road some want to hoe... well somebody will have to answer and it will not be nice.