2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDid Bernie Sanders say that it would be a good idea for President Obama to face primary opposition?
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Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)It gave me a chance to use one of the features of AdBlock2.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)It is the voters I wish to appeal to
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)go with the phrase got to love the internet!!!
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)And her new greatest hit "All the lies I don't remember telling."
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Bernie Sanders is against fracking and the TPP and more wars and increased H-1B visas, and Hillary is not.
THAT is what should determine a vote, the things that actually affect Americans.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)He has championed the Republican cause at every turn
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)idea for Obama to face a primary opponent. This is not a mark of death for Democrats as some of us are "okay" with platform breakaways that other are not okay with. Do we have to walk lockstep? (<<<rhetorical question--I hope).
Please people, another plea to keep to the stuff that actually matters.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)..Obama was flirting with a"grand bargain " and floating chained CPI for Social Security.. So give it up! Bernie said nothing wrong!
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)and other crap previously stated here.
since then he has rammed TPP down out throats.
YES HE NEEDED to be primary-ed Too bad he wasn't. It might have made a better human being out of him. and a better Democrat
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)and.....voila....
took about two seconds...
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)MrWendel
(1,881 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Glad you noted my question mark.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)because...............democracy. Was it illegal? Is it unethical? Is Bernie the Only one who said it? If not that? What the heck are people so up in arms about over this? What specifically was Wrong?
However, he said it in response to a question from a radio show listener.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And totally ignoring the actual context of the statement?
There really should be an un-recommend button to recognize nonsense like this.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)BTW... Hillary release those transcripts yet?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)the Democratic Party is a losing strategy.
But as the Clinton vs. Sanders primaries indicate, Sanders is pushing Clinton to be far more progressive, at least during the primaries, than her record supports.
Clinton, like Obama, is a center right Democrat. Both could have run as Republicans 40 years ago. And it is this center right positioning that has many voters believing that there is no substantive difference between the two parties.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)and I would have voted for one that was against TPP
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Is it "blasphemous"?
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)You cannot show any link that Sanders said this. You might find some blog or some Ask.com forum but you will not find a creditable link where Bernie Sanders said "only Obama should be primaried"
Why dont you go back Cali and dig up all the racist comments Bill Clinton and Hillary had for Obama during the 2008 Primary?
Why dont you find the quote where Bill Clinton said about Obama " Just a few years ago he would have been carrying our luggage"
Why don't you dig up all the nasty racist comments Bill Clinton made about Obama and Rev. Wright.
Dont forget Cali Bill Clinton grew up in Arkansas and he and Hillary might be out there trying to corral the African American votes
but I don't believe he outgrew his racist views because he was so open with his comments just a few years ago
Note the comment is in this article "this guy would have been carrying our bags a few years ago"
Do you think Obama appointed Hillary as Secretary of State because she was the most qualified? think again. Obama had some rough patches with Democrats and he didn't want Hillary to primary him in 2012.
Here is a link and i will give you more about Bill /Hillary Clinton and what they were all about when it came to challenging President Obama
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/bill-clinton-made-racist-remarks-about-barack-obama-in-2008-report-498484
Mr Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte isn't until Wednesday night, but the former President is getting attention for remarks he has already made, the New York Post reported.
Mr Clinton has, for example, on earlier occasions called Mr Obama "incompetent" and "an amateur" who has no clue about how the world operates, according to an article in Sunday's Post by Edward Klein, author of The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House.
"Obama doesn't know how to be president," Mr Clinton told friends and political advisers last year, the article added.
"He doesn't know how the world works," Mr Clinton had said. Mr Klein said Mr Clinton had convened a meeting at his Chappaqua, Westchester, home to urge his wife to challenge Mr Obama for the 2012 nomination.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)All the claims that he was "pushing" for Obama to face a primary opponent are dishonest.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Should a Democratic president ever offer to cut Social Security in a deal with the GOP? My answer is "absolutely not." What do you say, Cali_Democrat? Anticipating crickets rather than an honest response.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Create your poll.
I won't stop you.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)appalachiablue
(41,182 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)All candidates should face a primary challenge. If Sanders wins in 2016 and runs in 2020, Sanders should face a primary challenge.
And the same if Hillary wins in 16 and runs in 20.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Perhaps you can explain.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)... so I'm not sure why some folks are making such a BFD out of it ...
Shandris
(3,447 posts)Bad Thoughts
(2,536 posts)If you are a Democrat, of course.
appalachiablue
(41,182 posts)African American, grandson of slaves, decorated Korean War veteran, attorney, and a Virginian and southern. Wilder has also served as Va. State Senator and Mayor of Richmond elected in 2004.
Lawrence Douglas Wilder (D), Former Governor of Va. (1990-1994) was the 2nd black governor of Virginia and the first since Reconstruction. In his recent memoir, "Son of Virginia" Wilder discussed some of President Obama's approaches, differences and areas of concern notably in the first term. It's Wilder's opinion and his judgment, and of course freedom of thought and politics in effect.
- In His New Memoir, "Son of Virginia" Former Virginia Governor L. Douglas Wilder Writes That President Barack Obama Has Been "Overly Cautious" Especially on Race Matters.
"Wilder Criticizes Obama in New Memoir", Richmond Times Dispatch, Oct. 3, 2015.
http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/article_a4f0c9e4-c36c-529f-89d8-140be30fe23d.html
http://www.biography.com/people/douglas-wilder-39254
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If by some insane miracle he not only gets the nomination but also wins the presidency. (Snort)
I will be calling for him to be primaried when he doesn't deliver one damn fairy tale rainbow pooping unicorn promise that he's making in the primaries.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)We live in a democracy (supposedly), it's good for our democracy to have a choice. Do you have a problem with that?
Gothmog
(145,715 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Beacool
(30,253 posts)He wasn't a sitting president then, he was her opponent.
Big difference.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Obama campaigned as a progressive, but after he took office he made a right turn. Kudos to Hillary in that video, I totally agree, Democrats should not attack one another on universal health care.