2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumROFL!!!! Los Angeles Times: "The Pond Is Getting Fished Out" Hillary Is Running Out of MONEY!
Hillary Clinton faces one problem she didn't...
Now, at a critical point in the race, Clinton finds herself under financial stress. The Bernie Sanders money machine keeps churning, sweeping up millions of dollars more than the Clinton campaign has been able to find of late, positioning the democratic socialist from Vermont to compete in states where he was never expected to be a threat.
As Clintons network of fundraisers in cash-rich regions like Los Angeles and the Bay Area struggle to fill events where tickets typically cost $2,700 -- the maximum a donor can give in the primary -- Sanders is not holding any. His money comes almost entirely online, and keeps coming and coming, far faster and more steadily than small donations do on Clintons website.
Clintons rainmakers have grown anxious. She began the year with $10 million more in the bank than Sanders, but that cushion is disappearing fast
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-money-20160218-story.html
12 hours ago ... The pond is getting fished out. Everyone is sending invitations to the same group of people. And those people have already given as much as ...
trillion
(1,859 posts)a new link to dirty money or a lurking progressive scandal.
Today I found... She went on CNN 45 times to support the TPP, She shilled for Monsanto and the Clinton foundation (which is her and her husband) took large donations from them, She voted against gays on the Defense of Marriage act, Her Fracking and Keystone XL support likely does connect her to Koch lobbyists and I'm not halfway though the day. Every day is more dirt on her.
Sanders should have no problem going after her. I google him and he keeps being on the right side of the issues from the start.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)And her supporters will argue all day long: BUT NOW SHE'S AGAINST IT?!!! AYFKM?
If she actually won, how long would it be before she triangulated around to signing it?
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)One of the greatest computer scientists in the field's history.
6chars
(3,967 posts)then she will do what she can to stop it.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and all the moles are popping out of their holes these days. Too bad, so sad.
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trillion
(1,859 posts)Gophers!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...she and her family are doing 30+ fundraisers this month.
trillion
(1,859 posts)weeks ago.
She has the biggest campaign - made up of more people than all the other campaigns together. She also has dedicated people to each sector of the population to get the vote from them, including by race.
frylock
(34,825 posts)For shame.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)The WH is NOT pleased about the (increasing) possibility of a non-New Dem as the next President.
I think this is the DLC's Waterloo- they'll commit whatever they have left to try and win...and if they don't, it's all over for them.
grasswire
(50,130 posts).....will be the president the Democratic base thought Obama was going to be.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)But I feel that's the real fear. The grand "legacy" in in jeopardy if there's another Hoover/FDR thing.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)A Sanders presidency would render a third way Obama presidency pale.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in that comparison. Obama kept the car from going over the cliff but now it's time to head in a new direction.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)That's what I've been thinking as well.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Rig the election and alienate an entire generation of voters, or let it all play out and take their lumps.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)They're already irrelevant, but they refuse to give up the power they've stolen. They're still very dangerous, perhaps more dangerous than ever, though...but:
"Like the dinosaur...you've had your time."
MisterP
(23,730 posts)"just like a house payment, student debt, or medical bill! I'm just like you little people!"
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...of what is happening to a lot of oil and gas companies with the low commodity prices. They took on a lot of debt from the banks when oil was $100+. They spent a lot of money to lease people and in some cases those leases force them to drill a certain number of wells no matter what.
So then they have to drill wells they really don't want to drill at $30 oil just to meet their lease obligations along with having to pay debt back to the banks. Meanwhile those wells can't turn a profit at $30 so the oil companies just keep losing more and more money on top of all the debt they already piled up in the first place.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)plus5mace
(140 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)She won't need all that much money to finish out the primary season.
Once the general election funding starts, she has new sources to tap, and - IIRC - she can probably go back to donors as this is a new contest, just like Bernie is currently raising money for his presidential bid as a D and his next Independent run in Vermont.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Bernie can go all the way to the convention. Hillary may run out of money before Super Tuesday.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)She thought her campaign was fine, and just happened to run into a once in a lifetime opponant.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)and is screwing it up. Can you imagine if she was president and had to make timely decisions?
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and the humility of Napoleon. And, it seems, the ethics of Richard Nixon.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I often steal good remarks, but that is all mine.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)But Hillary doesn't have to do that, DWS is standing nearby waiting to do the "honors".
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Speaks for itself, methinks.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)A picture truly is worth a thousand words!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)calls to mind for some reason of one of the dimmer sort of courtiers one finds in a Terry Pratchett novel.
"...bovine supplication." Best. Post. Ever.
trillion
(1,859 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)certainly not herself.
The buck should stop with her, but it's easier to blame the underlings.
trillion
(1,859 posts)Feb 8th.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...she'll just go into large amounts of debt just like last time. And just like last time, she'll expect the regular folks out there to pick up the debt bills for her. Last time it was Obama's supporters that bailed her out.
frylock
(34,825 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)you can go for the knockout or you can plan to drag it out.
without trying to get into a prediction fight, it seems almost certain she will win more delegates on Super Tuesday. With a lead in both elected delegates and super delegates, she may have so much momentum that any disparity in funds after that is immaterial.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)will they continue to bet on their falling star
Hydra
(14,459 posts)But it's really late in the game here- and if they have to go indy, if the party higher ups openly support someone outside the party...
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)She's going to have a hard time hanging in there until the convention. Shades of 2008. We can keep digging in to our pockets for Bernie.
Rumor mill loud that Jeb is nearly out of money too. Donors not willing to pony up given poor results to date.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)But not in the gangsta sort of way...
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NCjack
(10,279 posts)sending my usual donation to Bernie2016. I'm doubling it if Hillary says Bernie "can't win the GE" or what we want is "impossible". The Repugs and DINOs said that about FDR's campaign.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)It's always good to set achievable goals.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Poor thing.
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EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)She believed in her campaign enough to invest some of her 10s of millions.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)than Bernie, the predicted loser?
What am I missing here?
frylock
(34,825 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Maybe she can liven up her gigs for the banksters and demand a higher payoff.
Logical
(22,457 posts)lasttrip
(1,013 posts)Peace.
LT
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)just like Obama did.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)that's for damn sure. She'll have more time to hang with her pals Blankfein and Kissinger.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I can't picture Bernie hiring Hill even to keep his enemies close.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Nothing more.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)then I'm ready to call her Madame Ambassador!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)home of Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Going to have to google origin.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Obama suckered me into it before but this time if she runs up bills she knows she cant pay she can go see what her banker pals will give her .
A.dozen speeches should cover it
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)just goes into warp drive every time Herself attacks. And is a seemingly bottomless well as his contributors don't max out.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I'm well into the hundreds, but I'm nowhere near maxed out.
Oops, deleted dup. *Bad* computer.....!
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Generic Other
(28,979 posts)just like she doesn't need my vote, so I gave my contribution to Sanders. Oops.
840high
(17,196 posts)quantumjunkie
(244 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)Maybe she can sell some Hillary stuff on the Home Shopping network to raise cash? Or she could go to one of the Payday lenders that poor people have to use. That would be poetic justice.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)it'll be the hot ticket for the yuppy duppies