Nevada Democrats vow legal action against people who falsely register as Dems to support Bernie

[Cali_Democrat]

In an effort to blunt caucus mischief, the state's Democratic Party vowed Friday to pursue legal action against those who "falsely" register as a Democrat to caucus on Saturday and then participate in Tuesday's Republican primary.

“After reviewing Nevada law, we believe that registering under false pretenses in order to participate in the Democratic caucuses for purposes of manipulating the presidential nominating process is a felony," state party Chair Roberta Lange said in a statement. "The Nevada State Democratic Party will work with law enforcement to prosecute anyone who falsely registers as a Democrat to caucus tomorrow and subsequently participates in the Republican caucuses on Tuesday.”

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The sharply worded statement follows an announcement from the College Republicans at the University of Nevada, Reno, encouraging members to "capitalize on, if they see fit to" on rules that would permit them to caucus Saturday and vote in the GOP primary on Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/nevada-caucus-double-voting-219504#ixzz40eLboowz

This is in response to a story about Republicans in Nevada urging their supporters to vote for Bernie in the Dem caucuses.

From MSNBC:

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Ralston noted yesterday that “organized” Republican efforts to intervene in the Democratic contest are now underway. This includes College Republicans urging members to support the “socialist” in order to help the GOP candidate “prevail” in November, and coincided with work from a prominent conservative activist in Nevada encouraging Republicans to intervene with a similar message.

Read more:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/nevada-republicans-eye-electoral-mischief-dem-caucuses

[Gothmog]

1. Nevada College Republicans are trying to vote in Democratic caucus to support Sanders

The Nevada college republicans are going to cheat and vote in the Democratic caucuses for Sanders because he is the weakest possible Democratic nominee http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/nevada-republicans-eye-electoral-mischief-dem-caucuses

Ralston noted yesterday that “organized” Republican efforts to intervene in the Democratic contest are now underway. This includes College Republicans urging members to support the “socialist” in order to help the GOP candidate “prevail” in November, and coincided with work from a prominent conservative activist in Nevada encouraging Republicans to intervene with a similar message.

Here is the flyer that the Nevada college republicans are using to encourage Nevada college republicans to vote for the socialist



Again and again, it is clear that the GOP and their affiliates want Sanders to be the nominee because he is the weakest possible nominee

[mhatrw]

37. LOL. It was RALSTON himself, a Clinton operative, who brought this loophole to their attention!

And nowhere in the press release does this tiny chapter of college Repukes advise Republicans to vote for Sanders!

All this is is Clinton operatives preparing a preposterous narrative for the whipping they know they are facing tomorrow.

[Ferd Berfel]

52. Many of these republicans will probably end up voting for Bernie in the GE too

[Gothmog]

63. So Ralston is an officer of the Nevada College republicans?

He seems a little old to be a member of this group

[mhatrw]

71. Can you read the top of the second page of the image posted below?

I thought you could.

[litlbilly]

2. the corporate hurt is in full bloom. :)

[BlueMTexpat]

3. Good to hear this.

Ever since I heard about the possibility of GOPers being able to vote in BOTH the Dem and the GOPer caucuses, I have been outraged.

I am glad to hear that this is being taken very seriously, as well it should.

[Fawke Em]

7. That's a problem with the law, then.

We shouldn't be participating in voter suppression.

[JimDandy]

51. The caucuses are a privately held election run by the Democratic Party,

a private corporation..They are not subject to state or federal election laws. Oversight of them is strictly within the purview of the Party. At caucuses I've attended, we simply signed a statement during sign-in attesting that we would not vote in a caucus/primary of any other party. It sounds like it would be a civil matter if someone then violates that written contract.

[JimDandy]

46. The Nevada Democratic Party is a non-profit corporation.

as is the Republican Party. It is unlikely that the caucuses, which are privately held elections run by a private corporation, would be subject to state laws that govern public elections.

[Joe the Revelator]

4. This title is classic voter supression tactics.....

shameful

[geek tragedy]

40. suppressing registred Republicans who prefer Ted Cruz from participating in the selection

of our nominee is a good thing

[Joe the Revelator]

70. Thats not what the title says. Its clearly aimed at independents and others who may not consider...

themselves "democrats". The actual title of the article would have been more appropriate.

[Jester Messiah]

5. Sue the base!

That'll get 'em to the polls in November. Fuck's sake, how incredibly stupid can these establishment boneheads get?

[Cali_Democrat]

19. Republicans aren't the Democratic base. nt

[Jester Messiah]

78. Sure... THAT's who this is targeting.

Wake up. Or, alternatively, don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining.

[Cali_Democrat]

80. You're not thinking about this logically

If you're part of the democratic base, wouldn't you have already been registered a democrat?

[Jester Messiah]

81. Not necessarily. A lot of people prefer to remain Independent but usually align with the dems.

But because those folk are gravitating towards Sanders, you see this sudden outbreak of "concern" from the Hillarites.

[Cali_Democrat]

82. I suppose we have a difference of opinion

In my opinion, the base refers to the stalwarts of the party, not self-declared independents who "usually" vote Democratic.

I suppose we can agree to disagree.

[Jester Messiah]

84. It seems so. [nt]

[geek tragedy]

39. Why do you consider Republicans to be part of 'the base?' nt

[Fawke Em]

6. I think this hilarious.

First, that they're stupid enough to think he's the unelectable one when he clearly beats all of their candidates with a broom much more than Hillary does; and,

Second, that anyone, including the Democratic Party, thinks they can look at someone and "know" they're falsely registering as a Democrat. What? If you wear a Ralph Lauren golf shirt, talk through your teeth and your girlfriend's name is Muffy, you're disqualified to vote as a Dem?

[mythology]

8. How do you tell the difference between

Somebody voting sincere and somebody voting in an attempt to cause trouble?

[Nanjeanne]

22. I think they throw you in a bucket of water and see if you sink or float.

[questionseverything]

76. perfect idea

worked so well with witches

[MohRokTah]

27. You compare the names of those who attend the Dem Caucus to those who attend the GOP Caucus. eom

[kelly1mm]

30. Well it is not like they have to show ID's or anything ..... nt

[JimDandy]

74. The sign-in sheets aren't public record. The Republican Party,

whose caucus isn't until Tuesday, is under no obligation to give the Democrats their caucus sign-in sheets.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. What could be nicer?

Republicans vote for Bernie.

Republicans get sued.

It's a twofer!

[Android3.14]

29. You win

If Clever were a country you would be monarch.

[Skwmom]

10. My money is on trying to INTIMIDATE Republicans who want to vote for Sanders.

And this is this attempted cover by Team Clinton.

[cui bono]

18. Good take on this!

I'm betting with you.

By hook or by crook... who cares what the voters actually want.

.

[jfern]

47. There are plenty of Republicans who would vote for Bernie

in the general. That's why he polls better than Hillary in the general election. But the Democratic party seems determined to shrink the party rather than grow it.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

11. Let's keep it clean. Never take your eyes off the GOP; they'll do the dishonorable thing every time.

[libtodeath]

12. Let me guess,this will be the excuse when she loses.

[Skwmom]

13. Probably one of Clinton's Republican pals started the ball rolling so they could make people afraid

to vote for Sanders.

In the GE they can hammer Clinton for voter suppression.

[MissDeeds]

15. I think you nailed it

Building an excuse in advance.

[AtomicKitten]

33. + 100000

[libdem4life]

14. This is beyond desperation. How does someone EVER illegally change parties.

And then prosecute?

However, after Bernie wins, they will have a lot of time on their hands. Bluster and Cow Pies.

[Cali_Democrat]

17. From MSNBC:

Republicans closed their registration rolls on Feb. 13, and that is the file that will be used on Feb. 23. Democrats are allowing same-day registration on Saturday.

So: A Republican registered by Feb. 13 could show up at a Democratic caucus site on Saturday, switch to the Democratic Party, vote and then still participate on Tuesday because the party switch would not show up on the GOP caucus rolls.

Clark County Voter Registrar Joe Gloria confirmed Monday that this could happen. And he also pointed out that the Republican-become-Democrat could switch back to the GOP in time to vote in the June primary.

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Ralston noted yesterday that “organized” Republican efforts to intervene in the Democratic contest are now underway. This includes College Republicans urging members to support the “socialist” in order to help the GOP candidate “prevail” in November, and coincided with work from a prominent conservative activist in Nevada encouraging Republicans to intervene with a similar message.

Read more:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/nevada-republicans-eye-electoral-mischief-dem-caucuses

[libdem4life]

20. Thanks for the info. I don't support that from either party.

[kristopher]

28. I don't either, but i seriously doubt the legal threat has any teeth.

Tempest in a teapot to give Hillary cover for a loss.

[libdem4life]

42. Yeah...tied up in court until the next election...LOL. n/t

[cui bono]

16. Laying the groundwork to excuse Bernie's win I see...

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. How do you prove Mr. Smith is part of Op Chaos?

Mind scanners, what you wear? What?

For the record, I expect some of this dirty trickery. But like voting multiple times, (and voter ID laws) this is going to be mostly mythical

[panader0]

23. How does one "falsely" register?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

24. Who fights against voters?

...

[frylock]

72. Conservatives.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. Such nonsense.

If an eligible voter registers as a Democrat then they are registered as a Democrat and can participate in the caucus.


How is anyone going to prove "falsely registering"?

[workinclasszero]

26. Proof that the republicans are trying to get Bernie

the democratic nomination because he would be an incredibly weak push over in the GE!

[mhatrw]

36. Show us the proof. There is NOTHING here.

There in NO organized effort to get Republicans to vote for Sanders that I can tell.

If you can present some evidence to this effect, please do so.

[DesertRat]

31. Good! n/t

[NV Whino]

32. Another reason to eliminate caucuses and go to primaries.

The parties should have thought of the problems, and solved them, long ago.

And if the Republicans think skewing the dem caucus to Bernie will give them the GE, they are going to be very surprised.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. Some primary states are closed

some primary states are open.

Thankfully I live in an open primary state. Ergo I can proudly be a member of the fastest growing "party" in the state. INDIES

That said, I think the caucus system is highly undemocratic and that goes for both parties.

[NV Whino]

59. Me too.

[applegrove]

34. Called rat****ing. It is Nixonian. And it is on the DU too.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

41. People at DU are trying to get Republicans to vote in two caucuses? Let me at 'em. Where are they?

[applegrove]

44. GOP trolls are on the DU creating a climate of hate for Hillary. They were beside themselves

with seething when Hillary went to Flint. One would think 'FLINT WATER BAD, HELP PEOPLE OF FLINT' would be a settled issue on the DU. But no. Bernie Bros were quite apoplectic.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

45. Well, you're interchanging "Bernie Bros" and "GOP trolls" in your post, and I disagree.

Awhile back, I decided that if defending my candidate from smears made me a Bernie Bro, I'd wear the label, and in so doing, weaken it. I like to think of myself as a middle aged regular sort of person, but some like to call me a Bernie Bro. But I dont', and won't, have relations with the grand old party, thanks.

[jfern]

49. You talk about a climate of hate

And then smear Bernie supporters with the insulting "Bernie Bros" label. Talk about hypocritical.

[applegrove]

50. Bernie told the Bernie Bros to behave.

[jfern]

54. Bernie Bros is a term invented by Hillary hacks trying to divide and conquer

I do not vote for candidates of hate.

[applegrove]

56. Bernie told to Bernie Bros to stop it.

[jfern]

64. He never said Bernie Bros exist

[catnhatnh]

58. It's called pandering

...anyone here recall that she was also going to whip autism and Alzheimer's???You know who does-credulous people who's lives are negatively affected by these diseases. Typical bullshit trying to get people to believe you want to help them when it's really about hustling votes on the cheap.

[applegrove]

60. Right. So Clinton cannot be for regulations for people's health because you say so.

[nadinbrzezinski]

66. The term irony comes to mind here

And it is actually quite funny

[frylock]

73. Zero self-awareness.

[mhatrw]

35. LOL. And the "evidence" for this supposed chicanery is an email sent out to 142 people

saying that is they do this they WILL get arrested.

And a press release from a College Republican chapter that does not advise Republicans to on who to vote for?

[frylock]

38. Is this the new excuse for a Hillary loss after 'NV is 80% white' didn't get any traction?

[ismnotwasm]

43. Good

because that's some bullshit right there. There is nothing wrong with being independent, no one should resort to dishonesty.

[MohRokTah]

48. There may be some felony charges against some members of the College Republicans

Whomsoever put out the fliers encouraging people to engage in this felonious activity is just as guilty under the law that they will prosecute the miscreants who commit voter fraud by voting in both caucuses. Simply encouraging others to do it is also a felony.

[JimDandy]

62. What law? The Democratic Party is a private corporation.

Like a union, their caucuses and elections are usually not subject to state election laws. But, if they have participants attest in writing, when they sign in at the caucus, that they will not participate in any other political party's primary/caucus, then they may have a civil case against anyone who they later find has provably done so. I could be wrong. If you know of a specific law that states doing so is a crime, would you please cite it. As a long-time election protection activist, I'd be very interested in learning about any such law.

[winter is coming]

55. I've lived in open primary states. Usually, they stamp your card with the party of the

primary you voted in, to keep people from voting in more than one primary (or from voting in the other party's run-off election if there is one). Surely, Nevada's got some mechanism in place to ensure one voter, one primary.

[JimDandy]

65. Political party caucuses are not considered public elections

since they are run by a private corporation. Both the Republican and Democratic parties have caucuses in Nevada, so I don't see how this could violate any state or federal law. Might be a violation of a civil contract law though if the caucus participants state they will not participate in another political party's elections snd then in fact do so.

[oldandhappy]

57. so much for democracy!

[Bohemianwriter]

61. LLLLOOOOLLLL

Seems like another 2008 tactics are being used with a new twist.
Contest any vote for Bernie!

This is so special

...Or shall we say...fail to epic fail?

&list=WL&index=17

DNC and DLC do take after their ideological cousins in GOP...

[Cheese Sandwich]

67. Who doesn't remember all of these:

[Matariki]

68. How in the world is that going to be proved???

[basselope]

69. Its 2008 all over again.

Clinton made these IDENTICAL accusations that people were crossing over to vote for Obama.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/us/politics/03crossover.html?_r=0

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23394070/ns/politics-decision_08/t/texas-republicans-cross-over-vote-obama/#.Vse4IPkrKUk

Does Clinton have no shame at all???

Don't bother with an answer.. we all know it.

[KingFlorez]

75. Good

Republicans have no business trying to manipulate the results of the Democratic primary process.

[Uponthegears]

77. Sounds like an excuse

For Hillary's party operatives to try to intimidate/hassle Pro-Bernie caucus attendees. This isn't like a primary with a secret ballot. Hillary's people will know exactly who to target. It reminds me of right wing poll watchers trying to intimidate PoC in Philadelphia.

[Ken Burch]

79. Bernie's campaign is surging on the merits in NV

Every vote for Bernie in NV is just as legitimate as every vote for HRC.

Bernie is gaining because DEMOCRATS agree with his message.

[Bluenorthwest]

83. '08 Recycled-Obama Accuses Clinton of Suppressing Nevada Vote

Since last Saturday's Caucus, the Obama campaign has logged 1,000 complaints -- including tactics by Clinton supporters that interfered with voting.
David Plouffe-
"We currently have reports of over 200 separate incidents of trouble at caucus sites, including doors being closed up to thirty minutes early, registration forms running out so people were turned away, and ID being requested and checked in a non-uniform fashion. This is in addition to the Clinton campaign's efforts to confuse voters and call into question the at-large caucus sites which clearly had an affect on turnout at these locations. These kinds of Clinton campaign tactics were part of an entire week's worth of false, divisive, attacks designed to mislead caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself."
Hillary- "Sen. Obama lost and now his campaign is acting out."

http://www.alternet.org/story/74840/obama_accuses_clinton_of_suppressing_nevada_vote