Hillary Clinton just can’t win: Democrats need to accept that

[Matariki]

Hillary Clinton just can’t win: Democrats need to accept that only Bernie Sanders can defeat the GOP

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/19/hillary_clinton_just_cant_win_democrats_need_to_accept_that_only_bernie_sanders_can_defeat_the_gop/

In one major poll, Bernie Sanders is now leading Hillary Clinton nationally. In most others, he’s not far behind from the former Secretary of State. Vermont’s Senator already has an “edge over Clinton in matchups with GOP opponents,” dispelling Clinton’s electability myth. In an average of national polls, Bernie Sanders is less than eight points from Hillary Clinton, after being over 50 points behind in 2015. In addition, there’s only one person capable of challenging a Republican in 2016 without James Comey declaring national security was jeopardized by a private server.

Bernie Sanders is the only Democratic candidate capable of winning the White House in 2016. Please name the last person to win the presidency alongside an ongoing FBI investigation, negative favorability ratings, questions about character linked to continual flip-flops, a dubious money trail of donors, and the genuine contempt of the rival political party. In reality, Clinton is a liability to Democrats, and certainly not the person capable of ensuring liberal Supreme Court nominees and President Obama’s legacy.

The precious and all-knowing polls already show Bernie Sanders defeating Republicans in a general election and Robert Reich has already explained why Sanders can easily win the presidency. In a Huffington Post piece titled “6 Responses to Bernie Skeptic,” Reich debunks the trusted myth of Clinton supporters and Republicans:

“He’d never beat Trump or Cruz in a general election.”

Wrong. According to the latest polls, Bernie is the strongest Democratic candidate in the general election, defeating both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in hypothetical matchups. (The latest RealClear Politics averages of all polls shows Bernie beating Trump by a larger margin than Hillary beats Trump, and Bernie beating Cruz while Hillary loses to Cruz.)

more at link

[nashville_brook]

1. from the article...more people trust Donald Trump 59 to 67%. yowza.

[seaotter]

2. Too much baggage, no credibility, nothing she does seems to change the math.

Her nomination equals a republican victory. For the good of this country she should step away from the microphone.

[Orsino]

3. Premature crowing.

But I'll cross my fingers.

[Matariki]

4. Agreed

I don't trust the polls. In either direction. But the criticism against Sanders' electability is easily demolished in this and other articles.

[Broward]

5. She'd make a terrible candidate and a terrible president.

[EdwardBernays]

6. Spot on

Nominating Clinton is electoral suicide.

[hack89]

7. H.A. Goodman - what a surprise. nt

[Matariki]

10. ad hominem

ad ho·mi·nem
ˌad ˈhämənəm/

adverb & adjective

1. (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"vicious ad hominem attacks"
2. relating to or associated with a particular person.
"the office was created ad hominem for Fenton"

[hack89]

12. It is an opinion piece by a decidedly biased pro-Bernie supporter

my only point.

[Matariki]

13. And it's full of truth

Clinton is really, actively disliked by Republicans and many Independents - and increasingly by progressive Democrats. Her chances in the General Election are worse than Sanders. That's been consistent in polling - which has nothing to do with the author's opinion.

You might not like it, but those are the facts. Attacking the messenger doesn't change that.

I get the sense that Clinton and her supporters think they can rely on 'do you want Trump to win?' as her 'firewall' in the General.

[hack89]

16. Right.... nt

[MisterP]

8. she's not liked, trusted, or has anything to offer

(except maybe the old infantilizing guilt trips about "do you want the Republicans to win?" they've increasingly used to extort our votes for two decades)

[leftofcool]

9. I didn't have to click the link to know this was HA "I love Rand Paul" Goodman

[Matariki]

11. see post #10

[Gothmog]

14. The author of this silly article could make some good money

The author of this article could make some good money if they really believe this silliness and would open an Irish brokerage account and put their money where their mouth is. http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination

[Gothmog]

15. I should have guess that this was a piece of fiction from Goodman

Goodman is a joke

[Tarc]

17. A shame that national polls do not matter in a primary

and that Clinton leads in 10 Super Tuesday states by 25-30 points.

"Can't win" indeed...