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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:58 PM Feb 2016

Anyone here work for a big corporation? No way Hillary will release transcripts.

In my experience, a guest speaker at a corp event w/employees is paid to be a cheerleader for the company. The speaker will do their best to make you think you are lucky to work there, and that the corp can do no wrong.

That's how it is, no matter what Hillary says. Hundreds of thousands paid to her for one speech? You better believe she's going to say exactly what they want her to say.

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Anyone here work for a big corporation? No way Hillary will release transcripts. (Original Post) Avalux Feb 2016 OP
Are you saying she should not be held accountable for her words? seaotter Feb 2016 #1
I think the OP is suggesting that we *know* what she said, w/o transcripts ... Myrina Feb 2016 #4
True, if she does not release them she adds to her credibility issue. seaotter Feb 2016 #8
Yep, we don't need the transcripts to know (in general) what she did or did not say. LonePirate Feb 2016 #10
Pretty sure that's not what they're saying at all. gcomeau Feb 2016 #5
I'm sure tha do look really, really bad. seaotter Feb 2016 #9
She should absolutely be held accountable. CincyDem Feb 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author gcomeau Feb 2016 #2
Been there, done that. CincyDem Feb 2016 #3
As a corporate speaker, she might be better than Bill because Jarqui Feb 2016 #6
No Corporation is going to cut a $675K check.... Segami Feb 2016 #11
+1. Absolutely true. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #14
Yep, I've worked for several big corps, and it's exactly as you say! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #12
The terms of her contracts give her exclusive ownership of the content. Orsino Feb 2016 #13
So no non-disclosure clauses? GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #16
I'd like her to answer that very question. Orsino Feb 2016 #20
Agreed. These were in-house speeches so they're going to be glowing Arazi Feb 2016 #15
Hillary is in a tough position here casperthegm Feb 2016 #17
I thought she went there.. Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #18
If it is customary for speechgivers to be cheerleaders for the company, Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #19

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
4. I think the OP is suggesting that we *know* what she said, w/o transcripts ...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:04 PM
Feb 2016

... a 'guest speaker' isn't going to come in & say "... you're all criminals and if I'm elected President I'm shutting this shit show DOWN".

Transcripts or no, we can all GUESS at the general theme of her message to her pals.

 

seaotter

(576 posts)
8. True, if she does not release them she adds to her credibility issue.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

If she does, she's TOAST. Too bad, maybe she should just drop out now.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
5. Pretty sure that's not what they're saying at all.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016

Just saying that the reason Hillary will never release them is because they'll look really really really bad.

CincyDem

(6,364 posts)
7. She should absolutely be held accountable.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

For me, the issue is that she's let what is likely a very small molehill become a very large mountain. If she had said YES during the debate and then dumped all the transcripts the next day - we would all be past this.

Now, it's a big conversation of "what's she hiding"? If we ever see the transcripts, I think we'll all say "you fell on your sword for that ????"

Just my 2 cents. At this point, I'd like to see them released more on principle rather than content.

Response to Avalux (Original post)

CincyDem

(6,364 posts)
3. Been there, done that.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:04 PM
Feb 2016

Not sure how it works in the financial services business but in a more boring industry, that's actually NOT the case. Have seen many speeches from CEOs outside the industry, government folks, and academics...they usually had two themes. First - make you think about things in a way that you're not thinking now. Second - send a message about the real world that the senior management wants to send but not be a lay on.

I've also been to conferences in the financial services industry that may/may not be like the ones HRC spoke at. Saw Jeb, Mitt, Condi, Gates, Taleb, Frank...mostly political. They all gave canned speeches that said absolutely NOTHING new. Their main purpose was to be a "headliner" to draw a crowd to the convention.

By the way - best speaker of all...Jim Carvell. Wow he was so good to see in summer of 2012.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
6. As a corporate speaker, she might be better than Bill because
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016

she's been doing this all her life:
"she's going to say exactly what they want her to say"

even last night!

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
11. No Corporation is going to cut a $675K check....
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

for someone to spank & scold them for 45 minutes about their crooked ways.







Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. The terms of her contracts give her exclusive ownership of the content.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:16 PM
Feb 2016

Unless she has other, Secret contracts with G-S, the release is entirely at her discretion.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
20. I'd like her to answer that very question.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

If she is currently under contract to G-S, we ought to know.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
17. Hillary is in a tough position here
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
Feb 2016

And has one person to blame for it. Don't like being painted into a corner? Don't put yourself by accepting Wall Street bribes.

Deny and Shred

(1,061 posts)
19. If it is customary for speechgivers to be cheerleaders for the company,
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

and she knew she might run for President one day, she shouldn't have done it. She now must endure the criticism becuase she took the money. Another unforced error.

Why doesn't she own her choice to be cozy with Wall St? The NY Times just ran a piece telling how some Wall St execs are calling the strategy shots at her campaign meeting. In the first debate, she defended the relationship because of 9/11. Maybe she should go back to that.

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