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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:53 AM Feb 2016

S.C. poll: Clinton seen as better for African-Americans, those struggling financially

S.C. poll: Clinton seen as better for African-Americans, those struggling financially

Hillary Clinton's lead over Bernie Sanders in South Carolina shows few signs of decline more than a week before Democratic voters cast their ballots in the state's primary, according to the results of the latest Monmouth University poll released Thursday.

The former secretary of state leads the Vermont senator by a margin of nearly two-to-one and is seen as the candidate who is better suited to address the concerns of African-Americans, who make up a majority of the state's Democratic base.

Overall, Clinton earned 59 percent in the latest survey, in line with recent polls taken of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters in the state. Sanders took 30 percent, an increase from the 21 percent who said they supported him in the same survey in November but still 29 points below Clinton.

Asked how either candidate would do in addressing the concerns of African-Americans and those who are struggling financially, Clinton fared better than Sanders in that regard as well.

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/poll-south-carolina-hillary-clinton-219421#ixzz40d6ZFM7D
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S.C. poll: Clinton seen as better for African-Americans, those struggling financially (Original Post) MohRokTah Feb 2016 OP
This concerns me FBaggins Feb 2016 #1
So only states that will go blue in November should get a say in our nominee? MohRokTah Feb 2016 #3
Yah what an odd comment... Agschmid Feb 2016 #4
Not at all FBaggins Feb 2016 #7
Texas helped decide in 2008. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #8
Exactly. Skwmom Feb 2016 #6
So you believe Democrats in red states should have no say? MohRokTah Feb 2016 #9
No one is saying any such thing. cali Feb 2016 #10
Then why would you be concerned about red states determining the outcome? MohRokTah Feb 2016 #12
Reality. We stand no chance of winning those states. cali Feb 2016 #13
Most of the states Obama won in 2008 primaries and caucuses were red. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #14
Not relevant FBaggins Feb 2016 #17
Completely relevant and dismissed because you don't like the truth. eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #18
Hillary is the candidate with "workable solutions". nt oasis Feb 2016 #2
Good for Hillary casperthegm Feb 2016 #5
I guess we all process things differently. CentralMass Feb 2016 #11
If that premise was true, I'd be voting for her instead of Bernie. mmonk Feb 2016 #15
As a Black voter...I hate to say it but many in my community DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #16
maybe they looked at this census data: amborin Feb 2016 #19
Shes better for all minorities and we will vote for her in large numbers.SC is only the beginning.nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #20
Can you enlighten us on why she is better ? Maybe you can change some minds. CentralMass Feb 2016 #21
How? By Opening Up More Prisons? DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #22
Lets see...pie in the sky fantasy or things that can actually happen in real life.. workinclasszero Feb 2016 #23
Yes, we can continue to get screwed and no we can't. CentralMass Feb 2016 #24

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
1. This concerns me
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

She may win the nomination on the backs of states that she cannot win in a competitive election.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. So only states that will go blue in November should get a say in our nominee?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:00 PM
Feb 2016


The vast majority of Obama's wins in the 2008 primaries and caucuses came from red states.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
7. Not at all
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:29 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not advocating that we change the current process. In most years, the nominee is the most liberal of the mainstream candidates.

I'm just concerned that the way things could work out this cycle could hurt us. I'd hate to have Texas decide our candidate when the only way we're going to win Texas is if we've already won by 100+ EVs.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. Texas helped decide in 2008.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary won the primary but Obama won the caucus. Had he not won the Trxas caucus he very well might not have won the nomination.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. Reality. We stand no chance of winning those states.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:39 PM
Feb 2016

Concern doesn't mean opposition to democrats in red states having their say in the primary process. This is not rocket science.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
14. Most of the states Obama won in 2008 primaries and caucuses were red.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:42 PM
Feb 2016

Your "concern" is duly noted for the value it actually holds.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
17. Not relevant
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:58 PM
Feb 2016

Unless you're trying to argue that Clinton/Obama were perceived as being as far apart as she and Sanders are - which of course is silly.

Your not even thinly veiled "concern troll" accusation is beneath civil debate. Is that really your style or is it desperation?

casperthegm

(643 posts)
5. Good for Hillary
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:08 PM
Feb 2016

But once Bernie wins Nevada I suspect we'll see the snowball effect gain more momentum heading into SC. More people will learn about Bernie's history and his authenticity, while at the same time they will gain insight into how the two candidates compare on issues like Wall Street, the environment, foreign policy, etc. As more and more people learn about each candidate and are able to compare and contrast when given this information I think we'll see the gap close. Hillary will still win, but the truth is spreading.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
11. I guess we all process things differently.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

In the 8 years, and the period preceding it, we had a democratically controlled Congress pass TARP . Senator Obama voted for it.

As president he did not follow through on his promise to repeal the Bush tax cuts. In fact in 2010 when the Bush cuts would have sunsetted on their own, he lobbied members of the lame duck democratic majority Congress to extend them.

The number of people living in poverty 8 year ago on this day, was 32.6 million. Today 8 years later there are 42.3 million living in poverty.
The black and Hispanic communities have been particularly hard hit. 38% of black children in this country are living in poverty and the unemployment rate is also disproportionately high in this demographic.

Corporate profits are literally at a record high yet wages as as share of the GDP have not been this low since 1929.

We have ballooned the national debt by over $11 trillion dollars under this democratic President in order to bailout the financial industry that took the country to its knees and maintain the status quo with a regressive tax policy that continues to dole out of corporate welfare by the billions.

You want more of the same ? The party is actually going after Sanders for criticizing this ?

Good luck with your candidate


mmonk

(52,589 posts)
15. If that premise was true, I'd be voting for her instead of Bernie.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
Feb 2016

But I live in reality at least considering where I've been and where I am now.

16. As a Black voter...I hate to say it but many in my community
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

Are making a major mistake thinking Hillary would be better for Black people. Anybody who seriously believes that isn't living in reality & may not genuinely understand what's at stake.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
19. maybe they looked at this census data:
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

New Census Data Show No Progress in Closing Stubborn Racial Income Gaps


Today’s Census Bureau report on income, poverty and health insurance coverage in 2014 shows that with the exception of non-Hispanic white households, median household incomes were not statistically different from 2013.

Measured incomes .......declined for African-American (-$497, 1.4 percent) and non-Hispanic white households (-$1,048, 1.7 percent).

As a result, no progress was made in closing the black-white income gap between 2013 and 2014—the median black household has just 59 cents for every dollar of white median household income.

The Hispanic-white income gap narrowed from 66 to 71 cents on the dollar.

Weak income growth between 2013 and 2014 also leaves real median household incomes for all groups well below their 2007 levels.

Between 2007 and 2014, median household incomes declined by 10.5 percent (-$4,137) for African Americans, 0.7 percent (-$294) for Latinos, 7.2 percent (-$4,662) for whites, and 8.8 percent (-$7,158) for Asians.

Asian households continue to have the highest median income in spite of large income losses in the wake of the recession.


http://www.epi.org/blog/new-census-data-show-no-progress-in-closing-stubborn-racial-income-gaps/
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
23. Lets see...pie in the sky fantasy or things that can actually happen in real life..
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:54 PM
Feb 2016

So hard to choose....not.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
24. Yes, we can continue to get screwed and no we can't.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe you should turn that into a campaign message .

This reminds of the Dennis Moore skit in
Monty Python, :Rob from the poor and give to the rich."

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