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Despite NH loss, Dem insiders boost Clinton's delegate lead
WASHINGTON Bernie Sanders won big in New Hampshire, but Hillary Clinton is still adding to her wide lead in the delegates who will decide the Democratic Party's presidential nominee.
Over the past week, Clinton has picked up the endorsements of 87 more party insiders known as superdelegates, according to a new Associated Press survey. Sanders added just 11 superdelegates.
If these delegates to the party's national convention continue to back Clinton overwhelmingly and they can change their minds Sanders would have to win the remaining primaries by a landslide just to catch up. He would have to roll up big margins because every Democratic contest awards delegates in proportion to the vote, so even the loser can get some.
After the initial contests in Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders has a small 36-32 lead among delegates won in primaries and caucuses. But when superdelegates are included, Clinton leads 481-55, according to the AP count. It's essentially a parallel election that throws Clinton's lopsided support from the Democratic establishment into stark relief.
The disparity is sparking a backlash among some of Sanders' supporters, who complain that the Democratic nominating process is decidedly undemocratic, rigged in favor of Clinton.
Some are contacting superdelegates who have publicly endorsed Clinton, and their message isn't subtle, or always welcome.
"I'm sick and tired of them," Cordelia Lewis-Burks, a superdelegate from Indiana who supports Clinton, said of the Sanders backers. "It's very aggravating to be bashed on my own computer by these people who it's probably the first time they've ever voted. I've been in the trenches since I was 20."
Superdelegates automatically attend the national convention and can support the candidate of their choice, regardless of whom the voters back. They are the party's leaders members of Congress, party officials and members of the Democratic National Committee.
There are 712 superdelegates, about 30 percent of the 2,382 delegates needed to claim the nomination at this summer's national convention.
The Republicans also have some automatic delegates who can support the candidate of their choice but not nearly as many.
Over the past week, Clinton has picked up the endorsements of 87 more party insiders known as superdelegates, according to a new Associated Press survey. Sanders added just 11 superdelegates.
If these delegates to the party's national convention continue to back Clinton overwhelmingly and they can change their minds Sanders would have to win the remaining primaries by a landslide just to catch up. He would have to roll up big margins because every Democratic contest awards delegates in proportion to the vote, so even the loser can get some.
After the initial contests in Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders has a small 36-32 lead among delegates won in primaries and caucuses. But when superdelegates are included, Clinton leads 481-55, according to the AP count. It's essentially a parallel election that throws Clinton's lopsided support from the Democratic establishment into stark relief.
The disparity is sparking a backlash among some of Sanders' supporters, who complain that the Democratic nominating process is decidedly undemocratic, rigged in favor of Clinton.
Some are contacting superdelegates who have publicly endorsed Clinton, and their message isn't subtle, or always welcome.
"I'm sick and tired of them," Cordelia Lewis-Burks, a superdelegate from Indiana who supports Clinton, said of the Sanders backers. "It's very aggravating to be bashed on my own computer by these people who it's probably the first time they've ever voted. I've been in the trenches since I was 20."
Superdelegates automatically attend the national convention and can support the candidate of their choice, regardless of whom the voters back. They are the party's leaders members of Congress, party officials and members of the Democratic National Committee.
There are 712 superdelegates, about 30 percent of the 2,382 delegates needed to claim the nomination at this summer's national convention.
The Republicans also have some automatic delegates who can support the candidate of their choice but not nearly as many.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/despite-nh-loss-dem-insiders-boost-clintons-delegate-lead/ar-BBpFyl7?ocid=se
This is going to be one hell of an election, because of the (super)delegate issue on the Dem side to the farce that is the GOP side, the possibility of a last-minute third party and that of a brokered convention (probably on the GOP side). And that's not even counting any voting shenanigans (bad machines, chads, voting suppression).
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Tab
Feb 2016
OP
Cordelia Lewis-Burks' attitude proves that super delegates suck. She is saying that her one vote
CBGLuthier
Feb 2016
#1
Breaking news: The Superdelegates includes lobbyists. They control the innards of the party.
earthshine
Feb 2016
#3
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)1. Cordelia Lewis-Burks' attitude proves that super delegates suck. She is saying that her one vote
is worth more than thousands of peons.
If the DEMOCRATIC party insists on using super delegates the decent thing to do would be to change their name to something more reflective of their reality. Like maybe the "some off us are better than you" party.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)2. "Some animals are more equal than other animals", eh Cordelia?
Fuck you.
earthshine
(1,642 posts)3. Breaking news: The Superdelegates includes lobbyists. They control the innards of the party.
See this video now!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017331184
Jezus christ - this is getting out of control
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