2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)She's not a Leader. As in all things, she waits for everyone else.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Then she's probably cooked. Expect Team Hill to work overtime to push the meme that they are not important, and everyone does it. Hillary says!
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Talking points for tomorrow are a higher priority. Gotta get everybody on the same chapter, if not the same page.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)Do you think those transcripts are important to anyone other than BS supporters hoping to find a "gotcha" statement?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)enough: she just told them to "cut it out" right? If she wants the Electorate to take her at her word, release the transcripts, and the subject is closed. Easy peasy. Otherwise, it may make her look as though she has something to hide...
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... who might consider voting for her, why is it that only BS supporters are clamouring for the transcripts?
The only reason BSers want those transcripts is because they hope they'll find something negative to throw at HRC. Don't you Bernie supporters believe he can win the nomination on his own merits? And if you think he can, why are you so desperate to find something negative about Hillary if you honestly believe BS can win on his own positives?
Sorry - doesn't add up.
We HRC supporters are confident that our candidate will win the nomination without resorting to digging up negatives about Bernie. We don't think that Hillary needs to unearth a "gotcha" moment in Bernie's past in order to win.
"... it may make her look as though she has something to hide."
Actually, it may look - and does look - like Bernie can't win unless he can find something that Hillary wanted to hide. That doesn't sound like a candidate who is confident he can get the nomination otherwise.
frylock
(34,825 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)LonePirate
(13,426 posts)Is it really going to be surprising if she says something in favor of Wall St. in these speeches? What if she produces a transcript where she criticizes Wall St?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)regulations on said industry...it seems unlikely, doesn't it? Yet, that's what Hillary has claimed...
If ONLY there were someway to prove this, one way or the other...
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)Then again the mere history of the paid speeches to the Wall Streeters serves as sufficient proof otherwise. I'm not expecting anything new or surprising in these transcripts so I guess I don't care if they are released or not.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)But if someone can extract a line from those speeches where she says something less than fawning, it will be used against her critics as a blunt instrument.
The first rule of investigative reporting still applies: Follow the money.
We know where the money (and lots of it!) came from, and we know where it went.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)That if she had them, she would release them?
Everything I've read on the topic indicates her people are the ones who have them.
If I'm wrong or heard wrong I apologize
azmom
(5,208 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)...that might lead us to investigate for months the possibly-cozy relationships among the candidate and the bankers, but I'd like to know what she says when she thinks we can't overhear. If it amounted to "cut it out" or stronger chastisements, I suspect we'd already be able to read those speeches, and be pleased or even proud.
If there was an agreement to keep them secret, I think we ought to know about that right away.
But no drama is necessary. The campaign can release these documents whenever they like, or a reason why not, and until then many of us are going to remain suspicious of the roaring silence.
Was Clinton NDAed, do you think?