Bernie won

[angrychair]

I think that was very clear...so far the only poll I've found.
If you think Hillary did better, tell me why. Thanks!

http://heavy.com/news/2016/02/democratic-town-hall-who-won-poll-msnbc-sanders-clinton/
Currently :
91% Sanders
8% Clinton

[nichomachus]

1. Hillary was ON FIRE

Well, actually only her pants were on fire -- as usual -- but her gang will spin it for all they're worth.

[jeff47]

2. I think it's telling that we don't have a bunch of threads by them claiming victory. (nt)

[jillan]

4. Yes she was - she was Feeling the Bern!

[reformist2]

11. LOL. There were times her hair was on fire too.

[Betty Karlson]

32. Clinton was BERNED.

(as she should be)

[Myrina]

42. You mean, she was BREATHING fire ...

Would have hated to be her offstage handlers after last night's Q&A.

[Merryland]

51. good thing Judge Judy wasn't there...

[CentralMass]

54. Pants on fire doesn't count.

[Punkingal]

3. I agree with you.

I thought Hillary acted angry and ridiculously manic.

[lob1]

6. Yes, and she didn't answer a lot of questions.

[angrychair]

8. Thanks

Not to over sell it but I honestly think this was hits best, from beginning to end, his best appearance yet.

Clinton supporters are often critical of his huge events and I think his small group interactions, like these townhalls, have clearly shown he handles himself very well and enjoys them greatly. Despite the talking points, he not "new" to this. He has been campaigning for one office or the other for over 30 years, his win-lose record is very impressive. Amazing effort right and more importantly, I think he did a great job actually answering the voters questions, not just telling them what they want to hear.

[Punkingal]

14. The contrast between them was amazing.

He was attentive to the questioners...she was saying hello to friends in the crowd. I thought that was bizarre. She was like a performer...he was serious and engaged. I get very depressed at the thought of her winning.

Also, I thought his answer to the Muslim doctor was beautiful...the doctor looked very touched.

[OhZone]

7. Hillary was great!

I'm always so impressed with her poise, knowledge, and strength.

BTW - Online polls mostly reflect activists and freepers. I haven't bothered with them in ages. The vast majority of people don't bother with them.

[angrychair]

9. Online polls

Are a direct correlation to supporter enthusiasm. Therefore, they are a fair representation of "likely" and "very likely" levels of voter support for the candidate of their choice.

[OhZone]

18. I love Hillary and I cannot wait to vote for her.

But I don't do online polls.

So -

no.

[artislife]

37. Seems to be a h supporter trait.

But carry on...being invisible online. There must be some kind of strategy in it...

[OhZone]

40. The trait is that I have a tough job and only so much time.

I take a glance at DU and a couple of other sites, but like most people, I'm not going from site to site looking to push a cause.

I had more time to do that when I worked from home full time.

Oh well.

[artislife]

44. And yet you woke up

and started posting here in earnest in this last month.

oh well

I even know your catch phrase.

[OhZone]

45. OHYEAH!? hahaha nt

[artislife]

47. Yup

I have so many others on ignore, that anyone new has stood out since December.



It is funny, for sure.

[OhZone]

46. Seriously -

You'd be surprised where I used to debate.

[artislife]

49. I would be surprised

if the word debate would be used as an adjective to describe your postings.

[OhZone]

50. Ha! You'll never know -

Cause my forum has the debate/flame forum closed to authorized users and not Google searchable!

[UglyGreed]

43. So motivated

yet so uninspired

[OhZone]

48. Naw, I'm very inspired. Can you imagine actually having two -

Democratic administrations in a row? WOW.

[Chichiri]

23. When you say supporter enthusiasm...

...you mean keyboard warriors who think that such polls are worth a damn and spend time doing them, consistent with taking the path of least resistance in many parts of their life. Little wonder that the guy offering free stuff has them in his pocket.

I know there are many, many Bernie supporters who work hard, use common sense, and keep things civil. I just wish they would come to DU.

[Beacool]

25. I don't do online polls either.

They mean very little.

[bkkyosemite]

10. "poise" no angry, attacking and egotistical.

[OhZone]

17. Yeah how dare a woman be strong.

She needs to go back to the kitchen, right? She's just angry and egotistical!

[white_wolf]

27. Um no...That isn't even remotely related to what the poster said...

Women, just like men, can, in fact, be angry and egoistical. Those are common flaws found throughout humanity. Now personally I didn't watch the debate tonight, but Hillary and Bill both have always came across as arrogant.

[vaberella]

28. She wasn't being strong. She was aggressive and I thought she verbally attacked the guy.

She came across angry, hostile, defensive and belligerent. She did not come across strong. That was my interpretation of her actions as a woman.

[Merryland]

52. It was like a prolonged snarl.

[demwing]

30. oh for gawd sake STOP

you're killing me!

poise?

[senz]

34. Nastiness and egotism are human weaknesses, not strengths.

Neither has anything to do with gender.

[Fearless]

24. That you don't like activists is very telling.

And very sad.

[Motown_Johnny]

41. Poise!?!?!? Seriously?!?!?!?

Wow.

[basselope]

12. I thought she was uncomfortable to watch.

She seemed annoyed to be being questioned by people.. as if this type of event was beneath her.

Granted, I am a Bernie supporter, but still watching her tonight reinforced why I could never vote for her.

[Merryland]

53. This type of event WAS beneath her -

People didn't pay thousands of dollars to get in.

[valerief]

13. Thanks

Bernie Sanders 91.44% (4,882 votes)

Hillary Clinton 8.56% (457 votes)

Total Votes: 5,339

[artislife]

38. Well, along with not wanting single payer

it is totally legit not to show any enthusiasm for your candidate in an online poll.

[deathrind]

15. President Sanders

Has a nice ring to it.

I sincerely hope it turns out that way. I have not always agreed with HRC's position on different issues but I have nothing but respect for her and the accomplishments she has achieved as First Lady, Senator and Sec State. But I think Bernie is what this country needs right now to get us back to the democracy we should be....a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Not the bought and paid for government we currently have.

[Beacool]

26. I sincerely hope not.....

[angrychair]

29. Why

[Beacool]

31. Because I think that he's over promising by a country mile.

I don't think that he's dishonest, the things he talks about he's been talking about for decades, but I don't believe that he will be able to deliver them. Calling for an uprising and a "political revolution" is, IMO, a fantasy. The next president will face a reality on the ground that they will have to deal with, whether they like it or not. The Republicans hold the largest majority in the House that they have held since 1929. Experts think that there won't be a chance to flip the House until 2020 or 2022. If Obama barely got the ACA passed when he had a Democratic majority in the House, how will Sanders get single payer passed? Sanders at the time even said that there were only 8-10 votes for single payer in the Senate. What would change?

[angrychair]

39. With all due respect

Nothing. In my humble opinion, nothing will change with the "status quo" approach Clinton and her supporters propose. It is not my intent to sound short or disrespectful. I respect your decision and opinion, I just don't see it as a long-term winning strategy. Not with these Democratic voters and the electorate as a whole.

Let me explain.

So, we can't hope to flip the House until 2020 or 2022 and the mindset for Clinton and her supporters is to cling to what we got, offer moderate, centerist proposals and a willingness to make modest compromises, veto and filibuster attempts to revoke or gut the ACA and any number of other things and hope in 2020 and/or 2022....what? That maintaining a centerist, modest and realistic approach will inspire Democrats, these young Democrats, to support a massive effort to flip the House in 2020 and/or 2022? Now who is dreaming pipe dreams.

Look, do I hope we can, in Bernie's 4 or 8 years in office, make achive debt-free tuition for college? Yes. On universal healthcare or a medicare-"like" solution for healthcare? Yes. On paid family leave? Yes. I hope and think we can achive success in these issues and more. The margin of success, the real progress, on those issues depends a lot more on voters like us than it does in Sanders. He will be the first to tell you that.
What it will do, at the very least, is set the stage for that next "Bernie Sanders" like person. And the next one. And the next.
Real change isn't made by politicians though, it's made by voters. The people who were fighting for civil rights didn't take the modest, centerist, realistic approach. They were and did, in some cases, die to achieve their goal.

We didn't put a man on the moon in 10 years taking the modest, centerist, realistic approach. We pushed the envelope on our knowledge and what we could make work with known technology.
If you really want to flip the House in 2020 and/or 2022, take risks, he bold and yes, dream a lot.

[antigop]

56. " nothing will change with the "status quo" approach Clinton and her supporters propose"

Some people actually benefit from the status quo.

[angrychair]

57. Yes

Those currently benefiting the most are called "millionaire" and "billionaire".

[antigop]

58. and some just want a female prez soooo badly. nt

[quantumjunkie]

16. K&R

[onehandle]

19. 100%!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/nkorea-election/6247491/

[frylock]

21. Try and enjoy your weekend.

Saturday night is going to be a buzzkill, but there's always Sunday Funday.

[azmom]

20. He did great. Answers questions unlike Hillary.

[stopbush]

22. BSers whistling past the NV caucus graveyard.

[KMOD]

33. Hillary rocked it!

Bernie was sucky, as usual.

[elljay]

36. Why Do I Dislike Her So Much?

I didn't use to hate Hillary. I voted for Bill, holding my nose as ever when voting for the lesser of evils, but really didn't have anything against her. However, I have now reached the point at which I just can't listen to anything she says. I had to turn the tv off within a minute of her part of the Town Hall. It is not that she disagrees with the candidate I support - I didn't feel this way about Martin O'Malley or any of the other Democratic candidates who ran against Obama. There is just something about her, perhaps the smug way she lies and misrepresents, assuming that I and other voters are too stupid and uninformed to know better. I may be forced to vote for her in the Presidential election, but I will spend the next four years working to make sure she is a one term President.

[yourpaljoey]

55. A portent of the slaughter to come?

The People are waking from their deep slumber of apathy.