Axelrod and Plouffe told O to hold back.

[Cattledog]

His Washington coaches say O didn't follow their advice and be aggressive. Now we have infighting. Not
a good sign for a campaign.

[warrior1]

1. where did you pull this out of?

[ejbr]

4. Howard Fineman on Hardball

although having in-fighting is not necessarily a bad thing, so I disagree with that assessment.

[madinmaryland]

20. Fineman. Figures it would be him pedalling that BS.

[phleshdef]

2. Um no, there is no infighting. Thats bullshit.

[Cattledog]

3. Just on Tweety

[hrmjustin]

5. don't let them talk to obama again.

[shraby]

6. The media needs fud in order to keep it a horserace. If Romney's team is at odds,

then surely Obama's should be, even if it has to be manufactured.

[gabeana]

7. What was the reasoning?

the good thing we know Obama will be aggressive from now on

[warrior1]

8. oh it's out of Chris's ass.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. This makes no sense. They told him to hold back and he didn't follow their advice?

You mean they told him "not" to hold back and he didn't follow their advice.

[Cattledog]

10. His debate coaches said be aggressive...

A & P said hold back, take the punches. O listened to A & P.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. Ahhh Washington coaches. Got it. I always assumed they were the coaches. In any case I'm not

surprised.

[LisaL]

14. Somewhere in the middle would have been good.

[oswaldactedalone]

19. I knew this was on Plouffe

and Axelrod. It was obvious after the debate their shock at what had happened. A ridiculous plan and huge misstep. Really shocking for two guys who have been terrific otherwise.

[Nostradammit]

28. Oh FFS!

Do you people really think this is helping your side, "oswaldactedalone"?!

[ailsagirl]

40. I noticed that-- thought wtf???

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

41. That was my mistake. I thought he was referring to Axelrod and Plouffe as the Washington coaches. nt

[ailsagirl]

42. You didn't err-- the poster wrote a confusing title

And the body of the post was pretty confused, too.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

44. Thanks. I feel a little less dumb now :-p

[ailsagirl]

46. I interpreted it the same way initially.

Glad you questioned her because I was just too lazy to!

[JaneQPublic]

11. They should have The Big Dawg coaching Obama

Who better to teach Obama how to present arguments in terse, understandable language and how to attack Romney without looking mean and petty about it?

[polichick]

16. I was thinking that too, but wonder if the President...

...would agree to it - they've had their problems.

[budkin]

13. Infighting always happens when a candidate gets obliterated in the media

It'll be ok though.

[VirginiaTarheel]

15. Whoever told Obama to hold back should be fired or reassigned.

Their foolish advice has resulted in a catastrophic turn in the polls. Their advice is obviously toxic and harmful to Obama and Dems.

[flamingdem]

17. Before it was telling him to curtail Bain attacks

.. wonder if it's the same person/s

[RBInMaine]

21. Obama UP 5 in Gallup, UP in Ras, WAY WAY UP in Nate Silver's predictions. JUST CHILL OUT.

[Jennicut]

45. Notice most of us old timers weather the storms better?

Sigh. I think to be on DU less. Some people just cannot handle Presidential races.

[Nostradammit]

29. catastrophic!

Oh the humanity!

[ailsagirl]

34. Loaded words

Foolish?
Toxic?
Catastrophic?
Harmful?

Surely you exaggerate, especially now that the President is leading in the post-debate polls!



Nitt was astonishingly mendacious--just AWFUL, doncha' think?

[chille1]

18. Nations No1 issue is :(Money Saturated,News,By , Corporations.)M.S.N.B.C:

I have been listening to all the chatter and I have concluded that the information we recieve from ,Since I watch M.S.N.B.C is not news at all 3% news and 97% opinion ,And we have become so entranced with hearing how good President Obama is ,How many lies Mittwitt is telling that we forget The Media is comprised of 1&2%ers ,Nobody we listen to has any real skin in the game ,They may have at one time but Today they dont ,Everyone was expecting the October surprise well Surprise!! ,The Media prefers Mittwitts lies over President Obamas truths ,Prefers ratings to truths ,Prefers sponorships over an informed electorate ,The debate was the shiney object they dangled in front of us ,and it worked ,It did away with any substance ,and has us thinking on this collective narrative so now the polls change,in the blink of an eye ,And Mittwitt spent another day of press free lieing ,Because now they want us to believe President Obamas campaign is in trouble ,Tomorrow who knows what they will give us to play with as long as we dont focus on MITTWITTS Lies ! Think about it all I ask!!!!!!!!!!!!and where are the Tax Returns !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[oswaldactedalone]

22. Plouffe and Axelrod

Better get their shit together. There was no three dimensional chess being played on Wed. night. Just a disastrous plan initiated by Obama's closest advisers. WTF were they thinking?

[Whisp]

37. the disaster was Romney

but you go ahead now. are you Tweety Beak's script writer?

[Onlooker]

23. That performance was all on Obama ...

... and Axelrod and Plouffe are taking the fall for him. Obama needs a major makeover for the next debate. He must at least hold his own, and let's forgot that Rmoney not only has always been a good debater, he's been preparing for these debates since July.

My feeling is that Obama should answer each question with a mini campaign speech. It's what Obama is best at. He shouldn't argue the points. He should simply try to inspire the audience.

[VirginiaTarheel]

43. No, he needs to be specific

People are saying he lost partly because he was so transparently general and lacked plans, whereas Mitt sounded smarter with his litany of plans and stStistics. Yes Mitt lied, but the media don't care and neither do voters. They are using the debates to hyper mainstream Conservative memes that Obama is lazy, arrogant, disinterested, weak, not presidential, and dismissive.

[Avalux]

24. What a fucking bullshit post, straight from the mouths of the GOP. n/t

[ailsagirl]

39. Bullseye!!

I'm going to trash it. Now.

[FrenchieCat]

25. Yawn.....

but thank you!

[Azathoth]

26. It's believable, since Axelrod and Plouffe were the ones telling Obama to sing Kumbaya

during the debt ceiling travesty. I guess they still haven't learned their lesson.

[awake]

27. Nice, Obama might not have won the debate

But Chris & Big Ed LOST THE SPIN. Why can we not get any help from anyone in the media. These sh*t heads need to remember what their moms told them "If they can not say anything helpful do not say anything at all"

[NCLefty]

33. Are the media supposed to be helping us?

[awake]

36. why not? one can hope for sanity.

[Mutiny In Heaven]

30. Horrible.

Inept advice, inept performance by President Obama.

Romney is a sitting duck, a sitting duck that has an almighty struggle not falling on his face every half hour. Obama can still win this, but he needs to give the duck a big fucking push. Call him out for his truth aversion, make him stutter and look as socially awkward as he is, and the first debate looks like a blip. Wed to the job numbers, it will look like Romney simply capitalised on a preoccupied President.

Obama has to force the issue though; don't snarl, have some quips ready to take out of the oven, but be imposing and well-versed on all of Romney's personas.

[DonCoquixote]

31. get ED, Rachel and Mike Moore

sorry, this is a fight now, and we need bloodletters

[Dawson Leery]

32. Obama needs to do better in the next debates.

[awake]

38. Yes but as I keep saying we need to "Win the Spin To Win"

how do you think the Repuks got Bush for 2 terms (besides cheating)

[NightOwwl]

35. Again, the media needs some meat to chew on

or they are out of a job.

So Howard says there is infighting. For all we know, Howard's definition of infighting could be a phone call between the two groups discussing their ideas for the next debate, agreeing only 98% of the time.

But that would be booooring, hence he spreads the infighting meme.