2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew Pew poll has Romney gaining 7% more of the African American vote after the debate.
I believe Pew is a good polling firm. But I don't believe that kind of gain is reality. I think that much is an outlier.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)exactly, something smells pewey
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)budkin
(6,703 posts)Obama better kick ass in the next debate.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)This poll is through October 7. The job numbers haven't taken affect yet.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Before or after Friday.
Botany
(70,508 posts).... I don't buy this poll at all. Romney did nothing to gain support from A.A. by his
performance @ the debate.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)Bull and shit!
dkf
(37,305 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Obama and 95% and Rmoney had 11%?????
That don't add up.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)People need to factor in MOE, which is generally higher among sub-groups because you're dealing with smaller numbers. So, while a shift, it could just be noise ... or less pronounced than it appears. It's clear Romney gained across the board, so, it's not hard to imagine him pulling a few black supporters away from Obama. People get too caught up on the demographics and ignore the overall number ... which is generally correct. I believe Romney is leading in this poll.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)And I think they are honest about the way they find it.
I just don't think what they found there is accurate to what we will see on election day.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)Clearly voters judged Obama very harshly becauase of his debate performance and some changed their voting preferences based on it. Gallup and Rasmussen say Obama is rebounding, Pew and PPP say Obama now in very big trouble because of debate. At any rate, I think Dems should demand Obama clear his schedule and do debate prep nearly 24/7 now. His upcoming performances likely will decide the election.
qanda
(10,422 posts)It's the framing of the debate by the MSM that shapes most people's opinions. Everyone waits for somebody to tell them how they should feel about the debate and Obama got creamed by the reviews.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)No I do not believe that. Just from a debate performance? Something smells rotten here.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Granted almost everyone I know is a Democrat/liberal/progressive etc., but I get the sense that the Republicans are hated for all of the racial stuff they have pulled and are very unlikely to persuade many Black voters to cross over.