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Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:09 AM Feb 2012

How we get bush3

No republican can take the bruising of the pre-convenion primaries. There are too many total wackos (as opposed to just plain wackos that are main line republicans) tea-ing on the bonfire. So they toss romney and his money in to kill off the total wackos while sustaining mortal wounds in return. No winner.

The convention is brokered. And a very white knight emerges. jeb is "forced" to heed god's call and "reluctantly" takes the nomination. He bypasses all the republican in-fighting and can actually campaign as a moderate with something akin to bush2's bullshit compassionate conservativism. The public always goes the the shiny new thing. jeb gets a couple of months of msm fawning and we're in the final stretch. It could be close enough for the crooked voting machines to steal the election (again).

Just a thought I had when turd blossom "praised" romney by saying that the best thing about him was that he was willing to do what he was told. karl knows how that will play with the public. It was setting richy rich up to take the convention fall.

The republican primary season is kabuki.

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How we get bush3 (Original Post) Jakes Progress Feb 2012 OP
I think Jeb is waiting for 2016. tanyev Feb 2012 #1
Me too Auggie Feb 2012 #3
It's interesting Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #6
That's why I thought the primaries were staged. Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #10
I've been saying that right along peace frog Feb 2012 #12
Conventional wisdom says he should keep his powder dry until 2016, and I bought into it, BUT... Brother Buzz Feb 2012 #15
Very interesting food for thought Jake. Puglover Feb 2012 #2
I personally think that is the one thing Republicans could do Samantha Feb 2012 #4
I can see that. Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #8
If it's kabuki, izquierdista Feb 2012 #5
Well, republicans always Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #7
There will not be another Bush in the White House. sufrommich Feb 2012 #9
That would be good. Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #11
Can't agree, although I would love to peace frog Feb 2012 #13
Well, yeah, I never said he'd win. tanyev Feb 2012 #19
Interesting theory Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #14
You hit on something very important, there. sofa king Feb 2012 #20
Another thing I thought of Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #21
Three month's worth of postings... Craigtee3030 Feb 2012 #16
It's very likely that the general public is still very wary of the Bush name. We are still Cal33 Feb 2012 #17
I'm not sold on the brokered convention yet, PRETZEL Feb 2012 #18

tanyev

(42,634 posts)
1. I think Jeb is waiting for 2016.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:22 AM
Feb 2012

He does not want to face Obama in 2012, especially given what this group of clowns has done to GOP favorability numbers.

Auggie

(31,204 posts)
3. Me too
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:42 AM
Feb 2012

The Republicans in Congress will be content blocking any kind of reform or recovery for another four years while blaming Democrats and Obama for the bottleneck. Sets up Jeb nicely.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,445 posts)
6. It's interesting
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:12 AM
Feb 2012

that, despite spending his entire Presidency calling him "weak", accusing him of "leading from behind" or failing to lead entirely, accusing him of ruining the economy (or the new meme, he didn't do enough), pushed through a horrible anti-freedom, jobs killing health care reform plan, all of the GOP heavy hitters retreated from a race one-by-one that even the corporate media was essentially saying was the Republican Party's to lose. The election has, instead, been dominated mostly by a bunch of loons on the only reasonably "sane" candidates floundered and/or are floundering while all of the rest of the whack-a-loons have been getting their turn to "surge" to the front of the pack and delaying Romney's (still pretty likely) coronation.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
10. That's why I thought the primaries were staged.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:24 AM
Feb 2012

I could always be giving too much credit to the corporate stooges who run politics or too little to the electorate. Could be that things are just as stupid as they look.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
15. Conventional wisdom says he should keep his powder dry until 2016, and I bought into it, BUT...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:35 PM
Feb 2012

I've been rethinking it. Jeb can jump into the fracas knowing he'll lose, but also knowing he'll become the de facto GOP spokesman, and in that position he can do two important things for the next four years: Reel in the Teabaggers and the Evangelicals, and re-brand the Bush name.


Brace yourself for a four year campaign with Jeb Bush's face and soundbites popping up everywhere. The BFEE is here to stay.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
2. Very interesting food for thought Jake.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:22 AM
Feb 2012

I wonder if people are able to stomach the name "Bush". Christie would worry me more.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
4. I personally think that is the one thing Republicans could do
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:45 AM
Feb 2012

that would make apathetic Democratic and some Independent voters RUN not walk to the polls to vote against the man.

Sam

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
8. I can see that.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:21 AM
Feb 2012

Of course, either one turns the stomach of thinking people. But remember that bush2 "beat" Gore and Kerry. The electorate doesn't seem too discriminating.

Either could do it. Hell. huntsman could have. Even romney could stand a chance if he didn't have to pander to the tea party in the primaries. He's so twisted now, that either the republicans offer him up as fodder in an election they don't really want to win (economy still shot) or he gets tossed at the convention. Either way, no oval office in his future.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
7. Well, republicans always
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:17 AM
Feb 2012

have had a ready and abundant supply of bullshit. Just working with the medium they know, I guess.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
9. There will not be another Bush in the White House.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:23 AM
Feb 2012

I'm convinced the majority of people have seen enough of that family for a lifetime.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
11. That would be good.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:26 AM
Feb 2012

You have more faith in how wise and discerning the electorate is than do I. I mean the ass-in-chief did get a second term.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
13. Can't agree, although I would love to
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:13 PM
Feb 2012

The electorate has a notoriously short memory which can be seen in a fairly predictable voting pattern, so the 2016 election season will be one in which the WH is ripe for Repub takeover. No doubt Jeb will cast himself as vastly, completely different in all ways from his brother and the voters just might buy it, particularly if the Dem candidates are lackluster. No way am I counting Jeb out.

tanyev

(42,634 posts)
19. Well, yeah, I never said he'd win.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:30 PM
Feb 2012

But it wouldn't surprise me if he throws his hat in the ring in 2016.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,445 posts)
14. Interesting theory
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:34 PM
Feb 2012

however, unless everybody falls into line and rallies around Jeb (who's seen as more of part of the GOP "establishment&quot , the "base" might end up feeling like they were cut out of the process and didn't get the nominee they wanted and split and run a 3rd party candidate and/or refuse to vote. Plus, no matter how Sarah Palin spins things, I can't honestly see them winning a "perception war" with a brokered (can't spell "brokered" without "broke&quot convention. I mean, if there IS a brokered convention and Jeb or somebody else magically becomes the nominee, then the corporate media won't be able to report on the nominee without mentioning that they became the nominee because of a brokered convention. People will (likely & rightly) perceive the GOP as too disorganized and unable to "get it together" to select their own nominee during the conventional process at the RNC, especially compared to the Democratic unity the presently exists around President Obama and will be even more evident during the DNC. Democrats could also run a few ads highlighting this as well. Even Obama could bring it up during the debates (i.e. "Why would the American people want to put a party fully in charge of the country when they can't even nominate a candidate the normal way?" "Brokered=Broken&quot The Clinton-Obama contest was rough in 2008 but Hillary didn't take it to the convention and people clearly wanted one or the other, so it wasn't like the DNC would have had to come up with a brand new candidate like the GOP might. Right now, none of the four GOP candidates seem to be running away with the nomination, not even Romney, who has always been considered the "frontrunner". I would also add that, after fawning over a "broke(red)" Republican candidate for a few days (or weeks), stuff will eventually come out about that candidate who will have less time to counter it effectively.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
20. You hit on something very important, there.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:33 PM
Feb 2012

It doesn't matter what happens at the convention if Ron Paul breaks and runs as a third party candidate, beneficiary of a year of Republican backing and already raised to national prominence on their dime. No Republican has a chance to win if that happens.

If that, or a similar outcome results, and Jeb has been unwise enough to put on the wetsuit, that's it for him, forever. Candidates don't come back from electoral wipeouts, and Hurricane Barack is already blowing up an impressive swell.

Wisdom would suggest then that Jeb should just watch the wave crash from the shore. Unfortunately for the world, Bushes aren't concerned with wisdom.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,445 posts)
21. Another thing I thought of
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:38 PM
Feb 2012

If Jeb is floated as a "broke(red)" candidate, I wonder if those pics of him and poppy Bush at the WH (NOT pointing fingers at Obama) might come back to haunt him.

 

Craigtee3030

(25 posts)
16. Three month's worth of postings...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:40 PM
Feb 2012

Where I've talked about the RNC looking in EVERY DIRECTION for THE REAL CANDIDATE...

And, they've looked at a few...

...made Jeb the Bush du Jour. It was rock solid a few weeks ago, when he went to Maine to cost with his parents...on sjort notice...and with an entourage.

Caucus Interruptus - Part Douche! Thoughts at 3 A.M. http://thoughtsatthreeam.blogspot.com/?spref=tw

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
17. It's very likely that the general public is still very wary of the Bush name. We are still
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:06 PM
Feb 2012

suffering from the policies of Bush, Jr., even though the GOP is trying to put the blame
of what he had done on Obama, and there are plenty of dummies who believe the lies.

I don't think it's worth the effort to put up Jeb until 2016 or even later. The Repubs.
need to allow more time for the general public to forget.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
18. I'm not sold on the brokered convention yet,
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:18 PM
Feb 2012

but I just don't see Jeb being that white knight that some of the R talking heads are spouting.

They can't run fast enough away from Skippy and his eight year onslaught on our country. How will another Bush be able to run away from his own brothers administration?

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