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Nanjeanne

(4,981 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:51 PM Feb 2016

What Killer Mike Actually said: Quoting feminist and activist Jane Elliott

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Which I think everyone should agree with. Even Clinton supporters. Policies should matter most.

just the facts here.

I thought I'd add who Jane Elliot is just in case someone wants to say "what does she know"

Jane Elliott (born May 27, 1933, in Riceville, Iowa) is an American former third-grade schoolteacher, anti-racism activist, and educator, as well as a feminist and LGBT activist. She is known for her "Blue eyes–Brown eyes" exercise. She first conducted her famous exercise for her class the day after Martin Luther King, Jr. was shot. When her local newspaper published compositions that the children wrote about the experience, the reactions (both positive and negative) formed the basis for her career as a public speaker against discrimination. Elliott's classroom exercise was filmed the third time she held it with her 1970 third-graders to become Eye of the Storm. This in turn inspired a retrospective that reunited the 1970 class members with their teacher fifteen years later in A Class Divided. After leaving her school, Elliott became a diversity trainer full-time and has been on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and The Ellen DeGeneres Show. She still holds the exercise and gives lectures about its effects all over the U.S. and in several locations overseas.

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What Killer Mike Actually said: Quoting feminist and activist Jane Elliott (Original Post) Nanjeanne Feb 2016 OP
THANK YOU!!! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #1
Thank you! Jane Elliott is an amazing woman. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #2
nice how that works Hillary attacks Feminists... oops PatrynXX Feb 2016 #10
The truth will set them free! n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #3
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #4
K & R. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #5
He's dancing backward - he DID say a "uterus doesn't qualify you to be president." George II Feb 2016 #6
No. Jane Elliott said uterus. And what's wrong with the word? Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #7
Oh good grief! passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #13
Yes, while quoting a known feminist activist, who actually said it to begin with. phleshdef Feb 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Feb 2016 #18
Read this: George II Feb 2016 #28
I didn't know her name, but my school showed us the film when I was about 8 or 9 years old. Lucky Luciano Feb 2016 #8
She taught at my school. emmadoggy Feb 2016 #11
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #9
I'm with Jane! zentrum Feb 2016 #12
Maybe if they focus on the problems with their candidate... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #14
They've no clue who they are stampeding over in their zeal to take down a black man. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #16
Surely you're talking about Sanders supporters' "zeal" to take down John Lewis, right? George II Feb 2016 #19
Lewis took himself down noiretextatique Feb 2016 #25
No he didn't. George II Feb 2016 #26
yes he did. are you another 'black expert'? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #30
What is a "black expert", and what do you you mean by "a lot of you"? Pretty offensive. George II Feb 2016 #31
i mean white clinton supporters who keep claiming they know what black people think noiretextatique Feb 2016 #32
Shameful. Just... SHAMEFUL. AzDar Feb 2016 #17
Amanda Marcotte (of BernieBro fame) is over at Salon ... mariawr Feb 2016 #20
and Duke and UVa fame MisterP Feb 2016 #21
And, via Huffington Post, Jane Elliott has this to say.... Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #22
Thank You Jane. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #23
Thank you for clarifying this. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #24
Thanks for clearing that up. LWolf Feb 2016 #27
K&R SMC22307 Feb 2016 #29
Thank you for posting this Oilwellian Feb 2016 #33

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
10. nice how that works Hillary attacks Feminists... oops
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:27 AM
Feb 2016

course Bernie is a Feminist, don't necessarily need to be female to be one

Nanjeanne

(4,981 posts)
7. No. Jane Elliott said uterus. And what's wrong with the word?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

She also said you have to have policies. Ain't that the truth.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
15. Yes, while quoting a known feminist activist, who actually said it to begin with.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:37 AM
Feb 2016

You aren't scoring any points by pretending that he walked anything back. You might make yourself feel better but you aren't convincing anyone else.

Response to phleshdef (Reply #15)

Lucky Luciano

(11,261 posts)
8. I didn't know her name, but my school showed us the film when I was about 8 or 9 years old.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

Very cool woman.

emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
11. She taught at my school.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:36 AM
Feb 2016

She taught 3rd grade for many years, though I didn't have her at that time. I later had her for Jr. High Literature class. A cousin of mine was in the original "Blue eyes/Brown eyes" group. She is not someone you ever forget.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
14. Maybe if they focus on the problems with their candidate...
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:35 AM
Feb 2016

I.E. Hillary Clinton -- and less on what Killer Mike said about a organ nearly every Woman has...it would make the most sense.

However, the Clinton Campaign is making less and less sense by the minute....

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
25. Lewis took himself down
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:19 PM
Feb 2016

it was an embarrassment. He lost a lot of respect among african-americans i know.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
32. i mean white clinton supporters who keep claiming they know what black people think
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

yes...it is offensive. and a big complaint from black clinton supporters about bernie sanders supporters.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
21. and Duke and UVa fame
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:27 PM
Feb 2016

(no wonder most of what she and Valenti say about men applies to *AA* men)

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
22. And, via Huffington Post, Jane Elliott has this to say....
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

"I think the reaction is because a man said what I said. If a woman had made that statement there would have been no problem, but because a man said it, it becomes a sexist statement. It's a ridiculous thing to be upset about," Elliott told The Huffington Post. "It should be a fact of life that neither gender nor skin color should determine whether you are appropriate for leadership of the government of the United States of America."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/killer-mike-sexism_us_56c48340e4b0b40245c881be

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
24. Thank you for clarifying this.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 05:03 PM
Feb 2016

I have FB feminist friends who are quite upset with Killer Mike and by extension Bernie Sanders.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
27. Thanks for clearing that up.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

I'm sure we all want honesty and integrity from the media and from campaign talking points.

I agree with Jane Elliott.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
33. Thank you for posting this
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:11 PM
Feb 2016

The attempted slur toward Killer Mike was so slimy. Now Ms. Elliot's words will get even more attention. Love how it backfires like that.

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