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Our new Virginia President poll is Obama 50, Romney 47. Just a slight shift toward Romney from 51/46 3 weeks ago
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Y'all asked for a preview of Virginia so here it is: Obama is still ahead there. Final numbers soon
TroyD
(4,551 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)That will help.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)If Romney can't win Virginia, he can't win the White House.
And if he can't get Obama below 50% in apt he aftermath of the Wednesday massacre, his goose is cooked.
Cha
(297,275 posts)Beak has seen to that.
Romney's stupid threats to fire Big Bird backfired on his lying ass.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and the remaining 6% are either fickle or indecisive.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)It is shit, it is all shit, the lead is gone.
Oh and that slight shift, it will shift back over the next couple of weeks.
But it is shit, it is all shit, we are headed to defeat.
Baitball Blogger
(46,723 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)the lead for Obama will re-expand in the next 2 weeks.
Baitball Blogger
(46,723 posts)I'm trying to determine if rufus is serious.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Yes it was sarcasm.
Baitball Blogger
(46,723 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)I to look and see kind of "dog" it was before I got it.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I don't want to hear it.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)SAAAA WEEEEET!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)NO, DAMMIT! I'M NOT DONE BITCHING ABOUT HOW OBAMA IS TANKING!
Tribetime
(4,697 posts)www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Damn IT! I wanted that next loss for the ToeJams.
The Utes looked much better though.
still_one
(92,212 posts)to carry to term if through rape or incest
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)what he was before in the first day of polling. Very good news.
I truly think this is Romney's high point of the campaign and it will go back down in the next week.
Per PPP:
"Friday was a strong day for Romney in our VA polling, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday were about par for the course of our work there this year."
Cha
(297,275 posts)it doesn't count much. But, my sister said she just found out her 92 year old republican mother in law told her she wasn't going to vote this year. She saw the debate and doesn't like mitt romney. Solid gop all her life and she just can't do it.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)He has had a lead for several months.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Raleigh, N.C. - PPP's newest Virginia poll finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 50-47 in the state, down from a 51-46 advantage three weeks ago. This is the closest we've found the race in Virginia the entire cycle, but Obama continues to find himself at the critical 50% mark in a state where Romney probably can't afford to lose.
Romney's performance in the debate on Wednesday seems to have helped his image with Virginia voters. They think he won the debate by a 61/28 margin, including 71/17 with independents. Compared to our last poll he's seen a 10 point gain in his net favorability rating from -2 at 47/49 in mid-September to now +8 at 52/44. The problem for Romney is that most of that gain has come with Democrats, from 6/90 to 21/76. But still only 8% of those Democrats are actually voting for Romney. Much of the improvement in Romney's image is people going from hating Romney and voting for Obama to respecting Romney but still voting for Obama.
The reason the race hasn't moved much despite the improvement in Romney's image is that Obama's held steady over the last three weeks in spite of his poor debate performance. 3 weeks ago 50% of Virginians approved of him and 48% disapproved. Now 50% of Virginians approve of him and 48% disapprove. There's been no movement whatsoever in perceptions of his job performance.
Obama leads Romney 52-44 with women while keeping things about equal with men, trailing Romney just 49-48. Romney's up 57-40 with white voters, but would need to win them by a lot more than that to overcome Obama's 90-8 lead with African Americans and
59-34 advantage with other nonwhite voters. The future is looking bright for Democrats in Virginia with voters under 45 supporting Obama 59-38. The race is only close overall because of a 55-43 advantage for Romney with seniors.
Weve been calling Virginia Obamas firewall state the entire cycle and this is just more evidence for it, said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. Even after one of his worst weeks of the campaign Obama continues to hold the lead there.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_VA_1007.pdf
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)Edited to say that the fact that Romney has the edge with seniors in ANY state boggles the mind. I guess his older supporters think he looks like such a nice man.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)I want Virginia to remain BLUE! . I still see no evidence in the Hampton Roads area. However, my 11 year old told me that he saw about 20 Obama signs when he was on the school bus Friday. Then he made a face and said he also saw two Romney signs. LOL
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)And I live in VA!
I have no faith in "polls."
I have faith in the other Virginians I talk to. Granted, I live in Northern VA, which is heavily Democratic.
Kaine appears to be ahead as well.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Yes, he's ahead in almost all the polls, sometimes by large margins.
I think Nate Silver gives Kaine about an 80% chance of winning.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)then he will be long forgotten.
i predict several missteps from the romney campaign next week as they will be become desperate after a Biden debate victory and fans of Big Bird screaming at them and the 7.8 unemployment rate that throws a wrench into mitt's plans.