Hillary Clinton's Authenticity Problem

[Avalux]

This is the overarching issue I have with her. I don't trust anything that comes out of her mouth and for good reason. Why would I trust her with my future and the future of my children?

To me, authenticity means that the outer is aligned with the inner. Our external words, gestures, looks, and tone all accurately mirror our internal thoughts, feelings, and intentions. There’s not a disconnect between the two.

When I listen to Hillary speak, the disconnect between her inner and outer worlds comes across loud and clear. It's something I can't ignore and it makes me uncomfortable.

The stakes are high in a presidential race and a candidate has two choices. Either be authentic and win that way, or construct a facade of memorized talking points and use manipulation tactics to win.

Hillary chose the latter. All she can do is hope she fools enough people to pull this one off.

[Dragonfli]

1. There is good reason your instincts tell you what they do. (from another post of mine to explain)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1250272

Issues don't matter when one creates one's own reality, one where one can change one's view several different times within the course of a day, let alone a year.

All it really requires to create such a reality, is to not to actually hold any belief in any stance on issues at all, but rather to form them as needed, for whomever is in the room or election at the time, and finally, identity politics that provide supporters gullible enough to either not care that ever changing views are proof of not actually holding consistent or true views at all, but rather proof of the one that is the identity of those identity politics to continue "view plasticity" until the bitter end and that do hold views but not the ones expressed.

There is something called Neuroplasticity, it allows the brain to change as necessary in order to adapt and survive, it is even such a powerful attribute of the brain that after parts of it are damaged beyond repair, other parts can change function and replace the job of the damaged ones.

What we see with Hillary is realityplasticity, the ability to change her beliefs at will in order to adapt to what a group of people tell her that those beliefs should be if she is to win votes.

She literally has the ability to change the world, or rather her world beliefs on a dime and seemingly with little to no effort.

Her ability to change her reality is quite impressive and a valuable asset to the modern day politician, but the gift is also a curse in that once it is recognized, in is impossible for an objective person (or voter) to truly believe in her changing realities, it also strengthens opinions that such a reality shifter is really not gifted at all, but merely an unapologetically deceptive liar.

[Avalux]

6. Good post. She tells people whatever they want to hear.

There's no passion behind it because she doesn't really care.

[hifiguy]

16. It's Nixonitis. There's no there there

only the desire for self-advancement by any means at hand. No core beliefs except entitlement.

[frazzled]

2. Then you have the problem, not her

What is "inauthentic" about Hillary Clinton? She is who she is, WYSIWYG. And it seems to me from reading a lot about her, from her college days to law school and her legal practice, from Senator to Secretary of State, she pretty much has been the same consistent person: that girl who studied hard and got good grades (people hate those kind of smarty-pants girls!), the policy wonk who knows all the details and works hard. Kind of boring, no?

What you see is what you get. You don't "trust" her, eh. That's your decision. Go ahead and go with your gut, that was old Shrub's modus operandi. But it's not necessarily a convincing argument to others. Maybe some people don't trust your gut.

What the hell insight do you have into her "inner" world?

[Avalux]

5. I have a problem with liars who refuse to own up to it. n/t

[frazzled]

8. Me too

And I'm convinced that Bernie Sanders is lying about a multitude of things: the costs and savings of his health care plan and college tuition plan, his ability to deliver on either of those plans, his promise of "revolution," and many other issues. (Not to mention all the dirty shenanigans his campaign has been up to.) That's why I won't be voting for him.

My gut tells me he is incredibly inauthentic. He said he was a "Democrat" so he could get into the NH primary and participate in the Democratic primary system, but he's not, and never has been. He's seems to be a self-indulgent, egotistical type who always thinks he has all the answers and nobody else counts. Yet he has few convincing details and never gets anything substantive done (if he had, he wouldn't have to be saying the exact same two sentences for 50 years). He's always making excuses.

And he calls people liars with no evidence whatsoever. Incredibly inauthentic fellow in my book.

[farleftlib]

11. So how about starting your own thread about it?

I'd love to see a link or video clip of him calling anyone a liar.

[amborin]

22. Bernie has always caucused with Democrats; whereas Hillary has voted with Republicans

[hifiguy]

26. Shhh. You're not supposed to remember that.

That's "bashing."

[libdem4life]

9. Her trustworthy ratings are devastating. You can't get that from brains or hard work

or being a wonk. It's an inner personality flaw.

In HR, when you have candidates for the job, the Resume certainly gets you in the door. Yet, you can be the most well-qualified on paper, but if the interviewer does not get that certain "vibe", someone else will get the job. I'd say it's about half and half. Interviewers are experts in "seeing and feeling" a person's essence.

Actually we all are able to tell, to a certain extent, but in this case, instead of just a Resume, we have videos and speeches and actions and political records and other things to help us make our political decisions.

Back to the interview situation...there usually comes the point when the interviewee senses it's not going well and starts to try harder to impress...which only makes it worse.

[jillan]

3. I think what she does is compartmentalize.

Compartmentalization is an unconscious psychological defense mechanism used to avoid cognitive dissonance, or the mental discomfort and anxiety caused by a person's having conflicting values, cognitions, emotions, beliefs, etc. within themselves.

Compartmentalization allows these conflicting ideas to co-exist by inhibiting direct or explicit acknowledgement and interaction between separate compartmentalized self states

I've known people like that. They really believe what they say when they are in that moment, that group of people and then have the ability to really believe something else when they are in a different moment.

[libdem4life]

10. You just described my ex-husband...exactly.

[jillan]

12. Lol. Mine too. That's why I know all

About it.

[azmom]

4. Totally agree with you.

Then you learn more about her and your choice becomes clear.

[gyroscope]

7. Unlike her husband Bill

Hillary is not a very good actor.

[farleftlib]

15. They didn't call him Slick Willy for nothing

He is the consummate politician and had me fooled for many years. She just can't pull it off.

Phony and haughty on top of it.

[hifiguy]

21. She positively radiates a huge sense

of entitlement. Barf.

[speaktruthtopower]

17. She may be more idealistic at the core than Bill, but not as good a poltician

[hifiguy]

13. I find her complete phoniness and

untrustworthiness to be profoundly authentic. It's who she is.

[treestar]

14. Which was made up by the right wing media

and should not be used by Democrats.

The POTUS alone does not control the future of your children.

[hifiguy]

19. It's not "made up."

It's blindingly obvious.

[amborin]

24. Her many flip flops & outright lies have been documented & called out by Democrats;

[cali]

18. Spot on.

[SHRED]

20. Henry Kissinger alone is enough to vote for Bernie

[hifiguy]

23. "I take advice from mass-murdering

war criminals." What's not to like about that?

[SHRED]

25. I know, right?

[bigwillq]

27. I Don't trust her at all.

I Don't believe anything she says or does.

I just want her to go away. lol

[CharlotteVale]

28. K&R