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moriah

(8,311 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:46 PM Feb 2016

Don't know how I got subscribed to Bernie's mailing list, but it's nice to hear his insults...

... to his primary opponent.

In this afternoon's email:

By contrast, Hillary Clinton left the campaign trail today and is in New York City hosting a fundraiser with financial service executives where self-described “champions” give her campaign the maximum amount of money allowable under the law.

Here’s the truth: The Clinton campaign would not be leaving the campaign trail unless they were finding it difficult to keep pace with our historic numbers of individual contributions. And they also wouldn’t do it unless it was for a grotesque amount of money from a small number of super rich people. Probably at least $500,000.


In fact, this has been planned since before losing NH, and in 15 minutes she will be speaking at the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture about breaking down barriers for African-Americans.

In contrast, I've never seen Hillary insult Bernie with false and misleading information in her mailers to me.
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Don't know how I got subscribed to Bernie's mailing list, but it's nice to hear his insults... (Original Post) moriah Feb 2016 OP
"In contrast, I've never seen Hillary insult Bernie with false and misleading information." Red Oak Feb 2016 #1
I clarified. Nt moriah Feb 2016 #2
Yes, "in her mailers to me" is a big clarification. Red Oak Feb 2016 #3
Yes, it is, and that's why I did it before your reply hit, because I realized it was an important... moriah Feb 2016 #9
She has people for that - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #16
I guess I got on her mailing list during that thing that happened roguevalley Feb 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author cosmicone Feb 2016 #4
Are you implying that Sanders supporters like me are part of the KKK? myrna minx Feb 2016 #19
No .. I meant "klan" as in "group" like "The Kennedy klan" cosmicone Feb 2016 #23
Clan is spelled clan - klan is very loaded and it's implications are quite clear. myrna minx Feb 2016 #25
Thank you. I'll keep that in mind in the future. n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #26
You didn't know that already? panader0 Feb 2016 #40
I didn't. I thought klan was the same as clan. cosmicone Feb 2016 #43
What kind of nonsense is this? Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #37
See post #43 n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #44
If you say so. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #50
So did she or did she not host a fundraiser in New York City for some fat cats ?? Is there not a berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #5
Andrew Cuomo had planned this event for the break... moriah Feb 2016 #13
So yes she is having a fundraiser for New York City fat cats... it's ok...it's just a fact that is berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #15
I just donated 27 the other day! Karma13612 Feb 2016 #52
Ahhh, so the fact that this was planned some time ago makes it all okay. SheilaT Feb 2016 #27
It makes his implication a lie. Nt moriah Feb 2016 #31
He's not "implying" anything jham123 Feb 2016 #38
Where are the insults? Qutzupalotl Feb 2016 #6
That's what I was going to ask. panader0 Feb 2016 #41
I somehow got subscribed to BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #7
I don't see the insults, did you forget to post them? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #8
The truth Mnpaul Feb 2016 #60
I'm not kidding Maddi!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #10
No, it was what I meant, and I am not able to see edit history on this device, but... moriah Feb 2016 #17
Okay, I'll take you at your word. How about everything else I said? cui bono Feb 2016 #22
Thanks for clarifying ... beedle Feb 2016 #11
Same here Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #12
Sometimes the truth is insulting. Now since the data breach I have been getting emails Autumn Feb 2016 #14
I don't know how they got lists, but I ended up on a lot at once. moriah Feb 2016 #30
"Shortly after she helped UBS settle a lawsuit with the IRS, the company gave $1.8 million directly GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #18
there is no smoking gun. 6chars Feb 2016 #55
Hate to say it but he's not far off: Jarqui Feb 2016 #20
Well said jham123 Feb 2016 #39
Have to echo the sentiments above: where are the insults? Maedhros Feb 2016 #21
When facts become insults to you, you should figure out you're backing the wrong candidate. cui bono Feb 2016 #24
I think I found it tk2kewl Feb 2016 #28
Oh. My. God. Fundraising? BURN HER!!! randome Feb 2016 #29
It is apparently True-$2700.00 to Get in fredamae Feb 2016 #32
How is Hillary going back to Wall Street for a big money handout an insult? Avalux Feb 2016 #33
So - where's the insult? Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #34
So, in Hillary World, the truth is considered an insult? nichomachus Feb 2016 #35
Not insulting in the least. azmom Feb 2016 #36
it's a shame that you think the truth is insulting. kath Feb 2016 #42
I think I'll sign up too! Thanks for the idea Moriah. Lucinda Feb 2016 #45
Moriah, don't give up. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #46
I was watching her speech, and then Obama's press conference. moriah Feb 2016 #49
Why do Hillary supporters think the truth is an insult? jillan Feb 2016 #48
You've come all this way to show saltpoint Feb 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Trajan Feb 2016 #53
Well, there was that issue where Bernie's campaign hacked the DNC server itsrobert Feb 2016 #54
So, no insults then? frylock Feb 2016 #56
some days it's bizarro world around here.... smiley Feb 2016 #57
Wait until you unsubscribe BainsBane Feb 2016 #58
Oh yeah, YOU'RE getting insults. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #59

Red Oak

(697 posts)
1. "In contrast, I've never seen Hillary insult Bernie with false and misleading information."
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

You are kidding, right?

moriah

(8,311 posts)
9. Yes, it is, and that's why I did it before your reply hit, because I realized it was an important...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016

... distinction to draw to be fair.

But yeah, her emails have included a request to donate to the children of Flint, a petition to let Obama's replacement for Scalia to get an up-or-down vote, etc.

No insults to her primary opponent.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
47. I guess I got on her mailing list during that thing that happened
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

with the thing because i NEVER gave a nickel to that woman. Ever.

Response to moriah (Original post)

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
23. No .. I meant "klan" as in "group" like "The Kennedy klan"
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

I self-deleted to avoid any misinterpretation.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
43. I didn't. I thought klan was the same as clan.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

English is my fourth language, so please forgive me.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
5. So did she or did she not host a fundraiser in New York City for some fat cats ?? Is there not a
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:55 PM
Feb 2016

a substantive difference on where Hillary gets her money support and where Bernie gets his ? I know you want these facts to melt away into the background.. but they are relevant and informative and trying to classify them as smears is futile.. The Political Revolution is rolling.. jump on board !

moriah

(8,311 posts)
13. Andrew Cuomo had planned this event for the break...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

... between NH and NV/SC before the NH primary and the flood of donations to Bernie. He's a Democrat, not a Wall Street mogul. The fundraiser will be tonight.

Saying she was only doing it because she couldn't keep up is a lie, and saying she was abandoning the campaign trail as a result when she is also using her time in NY to talk about issues that matter is like suggesting that Bernie was "abandoning the campaign trail" too when he, quite rightly, went to Minneapolis.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
15. So yes she is having a fundraiser for New York City fat cats... it's ok...it's just a fact that is
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

who she gets her money from... I take it from your response you are not to proud of it... especially compared to the grassroots support for Bernie... average of $27bucks

jham123

(278 posts)
38. He's not "implying" anything
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:47 PM
Feb 2016

And the fact that it has been planned for a "long time" means that the DNC has been broke for quite some time and the establishment candidate has to return to the 1%ers to beg for more money to keep the establishment status quo.

Not sure what you've been watching

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
7. I somehow got subscribed to
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:55 PM
Feb 2016

his list - post the December data breach, in fact - and have since unsubscribed so I can't speak to what his current mailers say.

But I absolutely concur with your last sentence. Never once.



Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
60. The truth
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

is insulting to the Clintons. We can't have any of that around here. If Bernie takes them down, it will seriously cut into their earnings potential.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
10. I'm not kidding Maddi!!!
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:57 PM
Feb 2016

Yeah, she just wants to fool all the people by skewing her campaign contribution stats and make them think she is getting small donations from tons of people just like Bernie.

And, I don't see where he insulted her. Can you point that out please? Or maybe you missed them when you copied and pasted?

If you think what you posted is an insult then you must be HORRIFIED by the campaign Hillary is running with all the lies about Bernie's policy proposals and vile attempts at character assassination.

I see you are limiting your outrage to mailers after being called out on this. That doesn't change who is running the dirty campaign. We all know who it is.



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moriah

(8,311 posts)
17. No, it was what I meant, and I am not able to see edit history on this device, but...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

... the edit should have been in tbe 1:46 -1:47 area, might have officially cleared at 1:48. But as soon as I hit submit I realized that wait, that was a possible misstatement, even though National Nurses United IS listed as a SuperPAC in OpenSecrets (even though I agree labor PACs shouldn't be counted the same). I was referring to direct campaign emails to her supporters.

Then saw the first reply, and replied that I had clarified.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
22. Okay, I'll take you at your word. How about everything else I said?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:29 PM - Edit history (1)

You're fine with Hillary's dirty politics? Her smear campaigns? Her lies?

Her attempt at deceiving the voters by manipulation?

#imnotkiddingmaddi

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beedle

(1,235 posts)
11. Thanks for clarifying ...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:00 PM
Feb 2016

... the fact that she is not taking these corporate bribes (opps, donations) is a state of panic and has instead planned this bribery (opps, corporate fundraiser) for months now.

So which barriers will she be breaking down today again?

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
14. Sometimes the truth is insulting. Now since the data breach I have been getting emails
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

from Hillary and others that I have never signed up for. I just unsubscribed.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
30. I don't know how they got lists, but I ended up on a lot at once.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

It might be totally unrelated to the official data breach, because it's been limited to email and not paper mailers/calls.

If any of us signed left-leaning petitions, one might have email addresses that were for public consumption. But if both sides started getting unanticipated mailers at the same time...

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
18. "Shortly after she helped UBS settle a lawsuit with the IRS, the company gave $1.8 million directly
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016
to her husband

A few weeks into Ms. Clinton’s position as Secretary of State in 2009, she helped UBS settle a lawsuit with the IRS, saving them millions of dollars. Shortly after, her husband received $1.5 million in speaking fees from UBS, while donations from UBS to the Clinton Foundation increased exponentially.

Clinton advisors have also lobbied to repeal many reforms enacted by Dodd-Frank. Ms. Clinton’s campaign staff includes many former lobbyists, like her chief pollster and strategist Joel Benenson, who ran a consulting firm retained to lobby on repealing parts of Dodd-Frank—legislation meant to regulate the financial industry in the post-2008 economic recession, by the Financial Services Forum. The brother of the Clinton Campaign’s Chairman and lobbyist, Tony Podesta, told The Hill in a 2015 interview that he anticipated President Obama’s ban on lobbyists would not be continued by a Clinton administration.

The enormous speaking fees and donations racked up by the Clintons from the financial services industry represent much more than the “artful smear” Ms. Clinton attempted to dismiss during the 5th Democratic Debate. Ms. Clinton’s record of getting paid substantially by large financial firms suggests her allegiance is aligned with their interests, rather than the American public. Nothing in her record or rebuttals suggests otherwise.


http://observer.com/2016/02/why-wall-street-gives-hillary-clinton-millions-of-dollars/

So Sanders isn't the only one to notice the connection. Laughing, deflecting and calling fouls is only going to get her so far. She will have to defend her income from this activity.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
20. Hate to say it but he's not far off:
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:14 PM
Feb 2016
Here’s the truth: The Clinton campaign would not be leaving the campaign trail unless they were finding it difficult to keep pace with our historic numbers of individual contributions. And they also wouldn’t do it unless it was for a grotesque amount of money from a small number of super rich people. Probably at least $500,000.


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/13/hillary-clinton-plans-event-to-tap-big-dollar-donors-for-democrats/
Tickets per guest are $33,400, and attendees can write an additional $10,000 check to each of the various state parties


Greek-American Community Organizes $2,700 per Plate Fund Raising Event for Hillary Clinton
http://usa.greekreporter.com/2016/01/25/greek-american-community-organizes-2700-per-plate-fund-raising-event-for-hillary-clinton/

Scooter Braun Hosts Hillary Clinton: What to Expect From the Glitzy $2,700-Per-Plate Fundraiser
http://www.thewrap.com/what-to-expect-from-scooter-brauns-glitzy-2700-per-plate-hollywood-fundraiser-for-hillary-clinton/
This will be Clinton’s third trip to Hollywood since the launch of her second presidential bid in April. The former Secretary of State raised $3 million in a single day as she attended three separate events Beverly Hills in May.


There was another in San Antonio that was "small" 250+ women, $1,000/plate - she was in and out in about 90 minutes with a quarter mil.

And she's been trying to do these things without the media knowing. The way it seems to work is: set up a fundraiser for big bucks and then find something in the area to distract the media. She doesn't need to be in Harlem - she should be in a SC community. But she needs that Wall Street money to keep flowing in.

I could go on and on and on.
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
21. Have to echo the sentiments above: where are the insults?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary supporters don't seem to have a problem with her raking in dump-truck-loads of campaign cash from sketchy sources - in fact, they cite it as one of her advantages over Bernie - so why would it be insulting for the Sanders campaign to point out that fact?

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
28. I think I found it
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016
By contrast, Hillary Clinton left the campaign trail today and is in New York City hosting a fundraiser with financial service executives where self-described “champions” give her campaign the maximum amount of money allowable under the law.

Here’s the truth: The Clinton campaign would not be leaving the campaign trail unless they were finding it difficult to keep pace with our historic numbers of individual contributions. And they also wouldn’t do it unless it was for a grotesque amount of money from a small number of super rich people. Probably at least $500,000.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. Oh. My. God. Fundraising? BURN HER!!!
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
33. How is Hillary going back to Wall Street for a big money handout an insult?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

It doesn't matter when she planned the event, she's doing it, and she keeps doing it. She got big money from the fracking industry the other night. She's holding big money fundraisers in Mexico.

I can't believe how easily Hillary supporters shrug off this sort of thing. It's disturbing.

Nanjeanne

(4,976 posts)
34. So - where's the insult?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:41 PM
Feb 2016

Perhaps Sanders team read the Politico article: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-fundraising-super-tuesday-219329 Clinton makes pre-Super Tuesday cash dash
Hillary Clinton’s top bundlers and donors are getting ready for a prolonged fight with a cash-flush Bernie Sanders.

Oh my - the insults!

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
45. I think I'll sign up too! Thanks for the idea Moriah.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

Will be interesting to watch what they are doing.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
46. Moriah, don't give up.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

Keep posting. Your posts are informative and they don't personally trash people who disagree with you.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
49. I was watching her speech, and then Obama's press conference.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

My tablet, my only device to watch stuff and surf/forum on atm, doesn't let me run livestreams in the background, so couldn't really play more.

The worst I've seen from Hillary in any of her campaign emails about Bernie was that he was, in fact, outperforming her on donations. Not anything negative about that, in fact it could be considered complimentary.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
48. Why do Hillary supporters think the truth is an insult?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

Did she or did she not go to a fundraiser with banksters?

Oh! she did!!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
51. You've come all this way to show
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:08 PM
Feb 2016

us the insults and then plum forgot to bring 'em.

Well, in any case, stay subscribed to the Sanders mailing list. He's a great candidate.

Response to moriah (Original post)

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
54. Well, there was that issue where Bernie's campaign hacked the DNC server
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

and grabbed data from the Clinton campaign.

Maybe that's how you got on their mailing list?

It's okay, I think they fired one person as a sacrificial lamb.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
59. Oh yeah, YOU'RE getting insults.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

I'm just over here in the Leftist Tea Party according to Bill f'n Clinton, but let's talk about how sad a -mailer- made you.

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