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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:34 AM Feb 2016

As much as I cannot stand Hillary, she will appoint a much better justice than any republican.

Nothing else will get better, she will have mired in a ground war in the middle east push corporate policies and place POC on the back burner, but at least we get something.

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As much as I cannot stand Hillary, she will appoint a much better justice than any republican. (Original Post) JRLeft Feb 2016 OP
Agree. I said that the other day as well eom Arazi Feb 2016 #1
Not enough. We have to get Bernie the nomination. He would appoint excellent justices & work for us peacebird Feb 2016 #2
Her greatest value to the country would be just that. I have no doubts about it. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #3
We'll definitely get the TPP and probably Keystone pipeline. JRLeft Feb 2016 #5
Yes, that is what she means when she speaks about being "realistic". n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #6
The sad thing is her supporters do not believe she push for these things. JRLeft Feb 2016 #7
Many don't and when I see that, I try and make the effort to look at myself Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #8
She unions backing her too, they will get it in the end too. JRLeft Feb 2016 #12
Yea, that is true, I agree. And again, what do we see, a disconnect with who the Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #13
Wait until they get a taste of the TPP. JRLeft Feb 2016 #14
Yes, that sledgehammer will be intense. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #15
Voters have no one to blame but themselves, they continue to support the same kind of candidates, JRLeft Feb 2016 #16
We'll see, it's far from over yet whether she will win the nomination but I hear ya. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #17
Probably bigwillq Feb 2016 #4
Most likely, but she can't win a GE. She's too untrustworthy & uninspiring. RiverLover Feb 2016 #9
I'm not falling for that anymore. earthside Feb 2016 #10
Reason enough right there. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #11

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. Her greatest value to the country would be just that. I have no doubts about it.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016

Aside from that, she will prove disastrous for the Democratic Party..for the most part.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. Many don't and when I see that, I try and make the effort to look at myself
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

and who and what I support...all their flaws, and remind myself not to fall into that trap.

It can happen to anyone when emotions/idolatry get the better of you.

Politics is so ugly, and why I am ready to fight to get money out of it.
I want a future that frees up our elected representative a much as
possible..you have to have your head in the sand not to see it on our side, it
is and has been such a pervasive poison. For the issues Bernie does not
reflect my views, although he does for the most part..the main goal is
confronting corruption. It hurts the most vulnerable among us the most
and how much more evidence do we need of its negative consequences?

That is why Sanders has appeal across the political spectrum, that and his
honesty rating. I remain hopeful for Bernie winning the nomination.



 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
12. She unions backing her too, they will get it in the end too.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:15 PM
Feb 2016

People on the left haven't taken a big enough ass whopping yet.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
13. Yea, that is true, I agree. And again, what do we see, a disconnect with who the
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:25 PM
Feb 2016

groups leaders endorse different than those they represent.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
16. Voters have no one to blame but themselves, they continue to support the same kind of candidates,
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:31 PM
Feb 2016

and complain when they're given the same results. Oh well at least it won impact my life.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. We'll see, it's far from over yet whether she will win the nomination but I hear ya.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:54 PM
Feb 2016

Consider spreading this around in the areas you campaign in,
no one can say he hasn't been consistent and honest all these
years:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511248548

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
9. Most likely, but she can't win a GE. She's too untrustworthy & uninspiring.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
Feb 2016

"No We Can't" & "That's what they offered" & all that "evolving" based on wind direction won't bring out the voters needed to win ag the rethugs highly motivated to vote ag her.

Add in all the Independents who will never vote for her.

She can't win.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
10. I'm not falling for that anymore.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:15 PM
Feb 2016

We always get that in the end from the Democratic Party establishment, especially in the last quarter century: You have to vote for the Democrats -- Supreme Court appointments!

Well, speaking for myself I'm not falling for that last desperate argument anymore.

I prefer a liberally oriented Supreme Court, however, the balance for me now tilts to fundamental (revolutionary) economic change so that I can afford to live and my children can afford to live and prosper.

Between theoretical Supreme Court appointments and trade deals that send jobs overseas and tax policies that make the rich richer and puts downward pressure on wages ... I'm voting for economic change.

Frankly, I actually don't trust Hillary Clinton on a Supreme Court appointment anymore than I trust her so-called opposition to the TPP.

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