Chelsea Clinton: Bernie Sanders’ plan to end mass incarceration is ‘worrying'

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by Rachael Revesz, New York

Chelsea Clinton said Senator Bernie Sanders’ proposal to end mass incarceration in the US is "worrying" and insinuated that her mother’s rival does not understand what is “possible” to achieve in Government.

Speaking to a packed town hall in Cleveland, Ohio, Chelsea Clinton took the opportunity to denounce Senator Sanders’ proposed criminal justice reforms when she was asked about her mother’s “vagaries” towards African American policy.

She replied that Senator Sanders advocated the end of mass incarceration, aiming for the US to no longer be the country with the highest number of people in jail by the end of his first term in 2020 - but his plan "worried" her.

The US currently has 2.2 million people behind bars, 600,000 more people than China.



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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/chelsea-clinton-bernie-sanders-plan-to-end-mass-incarceration-is-worrying-a6875986.html

[saltpoint]

1. Perhaps Chelsea Clinton could maybe

do a little research or something on a few topics.

On several topics, actually.

Sooner would be better than later, Chelsea. Get a library card and get to work.

[Moostache]

84. I would prefer that she (Chelsea) simply shut up completely...

The "Clinton Dynasty" of familial careers in politics makes me gag.

Chelsea, please, just go the fuck away and live your kushy life of luxury and allow the rest of the grown ups to handle the real problems of the world. You need to actually DO SOMETHING before you launch a political career banking on your genetic lottery results.

[debunction.junction]

93. Amen to that. Why would anybody with half a brain give a shit about anything Chelsea has to say?

For God's sake, what the hell is wrong with all the blind followers. Disgusting!!!

I love your sig line.

[UglyGreed]

131. Well she does have an inside

track to Wall Street money since all she has to do is talk about funding at the breakfast table....

[EdwardBernays]

2. lol

I'm reminded of the paranoid Clinton supporter who told me earlier today that we need to vet Jane Sanders, because she "distrusts the Sanders".

They are pretty scary.

[Roy Rolling]

95. "Worrying", as in, I should be scared?

Yeah, Chelsea, you say that's a very scary story. But I told it around the campfire last night and nobody was scared.

[mhatrw]

134. SUPERPREDATORS ON THE LOOSE!!!

We need to bring them to heel!

[Warren DeMontague]

137. Debbie Wasserman Schultz spotted this one just the other day!

quick, call for backup!

[beam me up scottie]

140. Terrifying.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. I guess Chelsea supports private prisons

[840high]

15. Just like her Mom.

[Duckhunter935]

17. I am sure they have made lots of money

On them

[Cassiopeia]

120. Chelsea supports whatever she's told to support.

This is the Family business. A business is exactly how they see it as well. Profit margins are the only objective.

[MisterP]

4. worrying because mass pardons would be be "monarchical" or because they're "those people"?

[Hydra]

116. I vote for "Those people"

And a side of "Our bribes from private prisons would be threatened!"

[Wilms]

5. She's still at it?

OK.

Rec for Exposure

[CharlotteVale]

6. Yeah, I'll bet it's worrying for the private prison industry.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

7. And we should care what she thinks because.....?

[beam me up scottie]

8. Is she afraid they're going to rob her, assault her, smoke a doobie on her doorstep?

What a spoiled child, the people in prison that Bernie's referring to are victims of the system.

[Babel_17]

9. Sanders at the wholesale level, wrong. Dad at the retail level ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich

[grasswire]

10. Chelsea's last NYC apt had 6 1/2 bathrooms.

She gave it up for something better.

I'll bet that families whose heads of household have been imprisoned for possession of an herb will not think highly of Chelsea's ideas about criminal justice policy and practice.

WTH

[whatchamacallit]

11. Nothing like a dumbass with the megaphone of entitlement

[hifiguy]

52. Blammo.

Drop the mic.

[JEB]

99. +1000 nt

[SixString]

143. +1.

[Kall]

12. I don't think the Clintons worry

about the things most people do.

[Arazi]

13. What's crazy is this is probably the easiest promise to keep

48.5% of federal prisoners are nonviolent drug offenders (@110,000 could be released immediately )

Release them via a pardon and get those into treatment who need it immediately.

End the war on drugs and stop arresting MORE people, especially MJ possession of any level

Begin active work with the bi-partisan groups already working at the state and county levels to similarly end incarceration for drug offenses.

There is bi-partisan support for this as evidenced by the Senate passing a bill to reduce mass incarceration just last fall

It's actually the promise Sanders is most likely to be able to keep.

Except HRC is in bed with Big Prison so yeah, of course Sanders' plan is "worrisome"

[UnBlinkingEye]

33. Prisons for profit is a repugnant idea.

No ethical person could support them, could they?

[PyaarRevolution]

126. Just think...

Of all the Black people who are most likely getting pushed into prison because of this bs and support of companies like CCA that pay Hillary. But I thought Hillary wanted prison reform, to see that Black people aren't unfairly getting thrown into prison.
Oh wait, if you fix a stacked system, how will CCA make their money?!

Everyone here should listen to the "Democracy Now" interview with Harry Belafonte.

[7wo7rees]

14. Chelsea needs to stop talking. Just IMHO.

She is not very knowledgeable about much except being exceptional. Sorry.

My other thought is, what a privileged brat.

[jwirr]

56. Yeah, I wonder if she realizes that her dad apologized for the

mess he and her mother made in criminal justice issues that caused the mass incarceration?

[pangaia]

16. My god, I just actually read the rest of the article.. well most of it..

Well, thank you Chelsea.


"“We are not electing a king.." You know what? We are not electing your mother either.

[TBF]

19. "You know what? We are not electing your mother either"

Rimshot.

[pangaia]

39. I'm a drummer. I actually have probably played 100,000 rimshots.

[hifiguy]

49. Here ya go.

Complete with pony!

[pangaia]

66. Why.....thank you. Mr. Guy...

Except Pinkie Pie didn't play a rimshot.

[hifiguy]

67. Close enough for jazz.

Far beyond the requirements of rock 'n' roll.

[pangaia]

70. :>))) touche....

[jillan]

59. You win the Internet!

[senz]

64. She didn't say anything about a queen, did she?

[hifiguy]

68. I see what you did there.

[senz]

86. Eh, you're quicker than me, hfg.

I don't even know what I did there. But thanks!

[TBF]

18. Spoiler: CC will be running as a republican. nt

[Cassiopeia]

121. Well that would be the first honest thing she's done.

[Waiting For Everyman]

20. Says the hedge funder.

She has one boatload of nerve. A family trait, apparently.

[noretreatnosurrender]

21. Aim LOW

Chelsea sure takes after her mother. Don't aim high, settle for less right off the bat so you can claim you personally succeeded even though you didn't. This is why this is STILL AN ISSUE.

[DefenseLawyer]

22. Between Chelsea and Tom Cotton, I may have to rethink this whole thing

Quite a power duo.

[earthshine]

23. Terrible spokesperson. Does not do well for her parents here. nt

[frylock]

24. Criminal Justice expert, Chelsea Clinton.

[Punkingal]

25. How ludicrous that she has come out of her bubble to tell us what to think.

pftttt to her

[TeeYiYi]

26. I don't think he's planning on...

...letting out mass murderers, Chelsea. Get a grip! ...Unless, of course, you've got an investment portfolio that includes the privatized, for profit prison system, in which case,...you need to seriously take a step back and shut the fuck up!

TYY

[Bluenorthwest]

27. That means the people on DU who are against mass incarceration when blaming Bernie for the Clinton

Crime Bill will today be strongly in favor of keeping them locked up now that they have been brought to heel or something.

[senz]

75. Good point, Bnw.

[thesquanderer]

28. Chelsea sure seems to "worry" a lot.

See also...

"Sen. Sanders wants to dismantle Obamacare, dismantle the CHIP program, dismantle Medicare, and dismantle private insurance...I worry if we give Republicans Democratic permission to do that, we'll go back to an era -- before we had the Affordable Care Act -- that would strip millions and millions and millions of people off their health insurance."

I guess when you don't have anything you really have to worry about in your life, you have to make things up.

[dorkzilla]

96. Terry Jones from Monty Python sings a song about her...

[Live and Learn]

29. Well, we gotta be best at something, might as well be jailing people.

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Finally, something Hillary Can Do.

[amborin]

30. worrying to Hillary's private prison lobbies? this really takes the cake; she wants blacks and PoC

unjustifiably behind bars

[hifiguy]

63. Money trumps everything for grifters.

And her hedge fund hubby probably has a nice chunk invested in the prison-industrial complex.

[Truprogressive85]

31. Worried about what?

coded language runs deep in the Clinton family I see

All those A.A and Hispanics being free how dare Sen.Sanders even thinking on freeing them

[thereismore]

32. Chelsea, like her mother, is afraid of super-predators. nt

[whatchamacallit]

37. Can't just let them out, too many to bring to heel

[Maedhros]

34. Why the hell should I pay any attention to what Chelsea Clinton says regarding prison policy?

Being the daughter of a former President does not grant one special insight. Might as well go ask Jenna and Barbara Bush who should succeed Scalia.

[Raster]

42. Ka-Ching!

[Milestone]

44. Ain't it the truth.

[jeff47]

72. Because Hillary Clinton is sending Chelsea Clinton out to speak for her campaign. (nt)

[jfern]

35. OMG, under President Bernie Sanders we might not have the highest incarceration rate

in the world? We even might not have more prisoners than China and India combined? The sky is falling!

[senz]

80. I hope someone puts it to her that way, jfern.

Maybe she'd wake up and Feel the Bern. Or at least wake up.

[JI7]

36. i can't figure out what she is trying to say

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

38. Hedge Fund Chelsea, born on third, thought she hit a triple

Bankster wife, hedge fund manager

Why should any liberal give two shits what she has to say? What has she ever done for our side?

[Mike__M]

40. Aww, she's so kind hearted

I think she cares about the incarcerated so much that she wants to keep them locked up, because that is the pragmatic way of delivering health care to them.
You know, since Bernie plans on eliminating health care for everyone else.

[mike_c]

41. the Clintons are creatures of the status quo....

It treats them very well.

[nichomachus]

43. When your whole world view ranges from trust fund to hedge fund

You're prone to saying stupid things.

[Marrah_G]

45. Well since she is wealthy, young white and female...

...then she probably won't ever have to truly worry about prison.

[hifiguy]

46. Let me give you some advice, Chelsea.

You're a grown woman saying mind-numbingly stupid things in a public forum, so pay heed for a second:

Go home, STFU, and count the money your hedge-fund, Goldman alum hubby is stealing and will never pay taxes on.

Jeebus fucking Christ on a unicycle juggling fish.

[dorkzilla]

98. She doesn't strike one as possessing superior intellect, does she?

Maybe brilliance skips a generation. Too bad her parents didn't use theirs for the betterment of mankind.

[Oilwellian]

115. I know many intelligent people

who don't have a bit of common sense. My brother, a conservative, is extremely smart but has no common sense. When he was 18, he asked me how to make a long distance call. LOL I still tease him about that.

Personally, I think Chelsea should continue campaigning for her ma and sing her little black heart out.

[liberal_at_heart]

47. changing the status quo is scary to those who make their living making sure

that status quo is all we get.

[azmom]

48. Proceed Chelsea.

[retrowire]

100. This.

Don't stop your opponent when they're making a mistake.

[Cassiopeia]

124. yep

[AzDar]

50. Huh. She was " worried" about Bernie's Single-Payer system, too. She is either horribly neurotic...

...or she's a concern-troll.
Since she's a Trust-Funder who has never had to work a damned day (really) in her life, I'll go with the latter.

[brentspeak]

51. Chelsea's and hubby's hedge fund investments stand to suffer if too many private prisons shut down.

[liberal_at_heart]

53. ah, interesting point. Their hedge fund would probably suffer if insurance companies

couldn't make billions off of denying people healthcare too.

[farleftlib]

58. +1

Those incarcerated, harmless stoners are providing her with a lifestyle she could not otherwise enjoy.

All her hand-wringing and worrying is for the perks she could possibly lose.

[NowSam]

54. She may be worrying about her allowance

in the "for profit" prison system.

[jberryhill]

55. Where's Willie Horton?

[Skwmom]

57. They have no shame. n/t

[senz]

83. Yup, so many similarities between Clintons and Republicans.

[cherokeeprogressive]

60. A "packed town hall". A hallway?

[senz]

61. Chelsea's not afraid of "those people" is she?

It makes me sick that she favors keeping so many of her fellow Americans behind bars.

[hifiguy]

62. Poor little rich girl.

Only worth an estimated $15 million http://gonetworth.com/chelsea-clinton-net-worth/

For doing what, exactly? Do enlighten me...

[DemocraticWing]

69. Selling the Clinton brand.

It's actually a bit like Trump's business model too...they get paid for being rich, powerful, and famous. I know it seems crazy considering they wouldn't be rich, powerful, and famous if people didn't give them money, power, and fame simply for being who they are, but that's how it goes.

[Kalidurga]

65. She IS an IDIOT.

Sorry for the caps sorry not sorry. She IS an IDIOT. Thank god SHE isn't running for President.

[hifiguy]

73. In due time if HRH manages to make it.

Maybe even if she (most likely) doesn't. She is The Crown Princess, after all.

[Kalidurga]

77. Gack

To think I had some respect for her. Not Hillary her spawn.

[gollygee]

71. If prison weren't profitable for people we'd probably have less of a problem with this

And the government can certainly solve that. Not Bernie alone (or Hillary alone for that matter) but one of them might have a more agreeable Senate at least (if not Congress) after the midterms.

[MrMickeysMom]

74. He's done more in one afternoon than she ever will in her whole fucking life...

If she didn't have the Clinton name, she never would have been given press for this ignorant claim.

“My mother understands how the government works,”

Wonderful.... So, let your mother make the case to be president, Chelsea. The last I knew, she was running for president, not you.

[Generic Other]

76. Chelsea and Bristol

Two young women who have accomplished very little on their own and whose views are not significant enough to matter to me.

[nc4bo]

78. ....and she would know this how?

No disrespect but STFU Chelsea. Your children will never have to worry about the problems facing the little people.

I'm tellin ya, this team needs to go doooooown.

[hifiguy]

79. Like the friggin' Hindenburg

[lastone]

81. She's learning

The family ways!

Trying to do whatever lying gets their corporate masters buying!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

82. Hillary's new campaign song....

How she sees us:

[RoccoR5955]

85. I guess Chelsea wants her

husband who is a hedge fund manager to go to prison when he makes illegal deals.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

87. Eeek!! We might lose the prestigious Most Prisoners Championshit!!

We have to increase the numbers right away. Only Hillary can defend the MPC Cup!!

[billhicks76]

88. Evil

She's dead to me now. Mind blowing she isn't afraid to show her true colors. I hope she rots in Hell for advocating breaking up families and destroying lives using the excuse that "helping" people.

[Jack Rabbit]

89. Please come back when you can talk sense, Chelsea

What's wrong with ending mass incarceration, sweetheart? I think the land of the free has far too many people behind bars.

[GuardianOne]

90. Worrying

The possibility of your mother losing is what's really worrying you, dear child. The possibility of her winning is what's worrying us.

Bernie for President

[farleftlib]

91. Awesome first post

Welcome, GuardianOne.

[saltpoint]

101. Welcome, GuardianOne. I liked

your post. And I like your candidate.

[d_legendary1]

107. Welcome to DU! And awesome post!

[passiveporcupine]

111. Very good!

Welcome to DU!

[GuardianOne]

145. thank you

I'm not a novice, I was Lordship for a while and then LordshipLadyship with my wife. I went through this when Hilary was running against Obama. The right person won. Let's hope it happens again. Thank you for welcoming me back.
Bernie for President

[ucrdem]

92. I'm sure that isn't close to what she said but K'n'R for Chelsea speaking truth to Rove

[jpb33]

94. Why would anyone listen to Chelsea?

I just don't get it. Besides being the daughter of Hillary and Bill Clinton what qualifications does Chelsea have to be speaking about this topic or just about any topic of policy?

Yeah she can have an opinion, but what makes it worthy of being listened to? Other than getting jobs due to nepotism and her last name I just don't see why anyone would listen or respect her opinion on this subject, healthcare, or any other important policy subject.

[Geronimoe]

97. Very worrying

If there are vacancy at prisons, that makes room to incarcerate banksters and hedge fund managers.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

102. Chelsea Clinton will make a great Senator someday. I hope she doesn't wait too long. nt

[DefenseLawyer]

109. Are you for real?

You are already putting Chelsea Clinton in the United States Senate? Based on what, other than your bizarre worship of all that is Clinton?

[longship]

103. Chelsea Clinton is worrying.

No scare quotes necessary.

[Mufaddal]

104. This is right up there with Bill's recent "we're all mixed-race" comments

And together, tone deaf comments like this continue to demonstrate how totally out of touch the Clintons are with the American public.

Incidentally, can we talk for a minute about how Chelsea, who is effectively advocating a familial dynastic presidency, also said, "we aren't electing a king?" Or, as one tweep put it, "'We are not electing a king' says the millionaire white person trying to continue a line of family rulers." (https://twitter.com/dresdencodak/status/699426556012171265)

God, that was weird.

I'm hoping that will come back to haunt her not only now, but when she invariably launches a presidential bid further down the road.

[7wo7rees]

105. She lives in a very special privileged bubble.

It is that affluenza bug she is afflicted with.

[peace13]

106. Every time she speaks she takes something out of context.

It must be a genetic thing!

[passiveporcupine]

108. She is doubling down

on her Mom's comment about gangs of kids being super predators with “no conscience, no empathy'.

But Ms Clinton's daughter argued that reform needs to come in the shape of education and the promise of jobs, citing her mother’s “cradle to education and cradle to jobs pipeline”

Hillary said:

She suggests that rather than trying to understand how poverty and social exclusion may have led children to make certain choices, it is more important to first “bring them to heel.”

Yep, while we are working on this idea of education and jobs (like she has some magic answer to that), in the mean time we must still bring these kids to heel and keep putting them in for profit prisons. Eventually it will all work itself out.

No comment on the war on drugs and how that has also had an impact on kids in jail...or the discrimination blacks face with the police and justice system. Oh no...she can't fix that. It's too hard.

Nor does she address the issue of not jailing people for drugs, but instead treating them for drug addiction.

[jalan48]

110. Plutocrat in training.

[Respect 88]

112. Go See "Where to Invade Next" Michael Moore movie

Where to Invade Next is a movie just released on Monday.
AWESOME!

There is long segment in the movie regarding humane incarceration in other country's.

Go see the movie for yourself and learn.

[americannightmare]

113. Spoken like a true...

one-percenter!

[XemaSab]

114. Good luck winning black voters with that!

[libdem4life]

117. Both times she's been let loose, she blows it. Clinton v.3 is just that and clueless.

[Lancero]

118. Hmm... Her campaign says she's going to take a stand against racism in our justice system...

Her campaign takes money from the for profit prison industry, and now her campaign is 'worried' about bringing a end to the mass incarcerations - Something that disproportionately affects the AA community - that helps to sustain the FPP industry.

Ah well, thankfully the Clinton Campaign can't be swayed by money so I'm certain that her campaign has a perfectly reasonable explanation for why it doesn't want to end mass incarcerations.

[berningman]

119. wow prison good Bernie bad

[Warren DeMontague]

123. Welcome to DU!

It's fucking mind-blowing. "Single Payer Health Care is AWFUL, you socialists just want FREE STUFF, and by the way the drug war is GREAT, it is totally wonderful that we fill our prisons with pot smokers derp herp"

[bigwillq]

141. Hello

Welcome to DU!

[Warren DeMontague]

122. Yes, indeed, not putting people in prison for smoking pot is a "worrying" proposal

derp

[cascadiance]

130. When I can personally do things to help drive us to drug amnesty laws here in Oregon, so can Bernie!

I was inspired last right before last election to take the marijuana initiative this state passed further and wrote a resolution to provide amnesty for past marijuana offenses, which one of us in our platform group ultimately produced a final county resolution for that was passed, and ultimately had many of our legislators pay more attention to this and pass some ground breaking legislation this last year to start the path of forgiving people for past drug offenses, and other felonies actually too if you note the article here.

http://sfevergreen.com/in-oregon-legalization-includes-amnesty-for-past-pot-crimes/

If I myself can help push people to do the right things in this state to start pulling us back from the clutches of the prison industrial complex, certainly Bernie can do so as well. He has a lot of people behind him!

[Warren DeMontague]

136. EXACTLY. Spot on.

And good work!

[me b zola]

125. And here I thought this was going to be from the Onion

Just wow.

[NowSam]

127. She owns stock in the profitable prison industry?

sounds like it to me.

[CoffeeCat]

128. I have come to the conclusion that Bill and Chelsea are conspiring to help

HRC lose the election. They want her home, not Presidenting.

It's the only rationale for the looney stuff that they are saying.

[KingCharlemagne]

129. Born on third base with a silver spoon in her mouth and thinks

she hit a triple.

Who gives a Fuck what little Ms richey-rich thinks?

[PonyUp]

132. Chelsea worried? None of those released would be allowed to knock on her $10 million apartment door.

[Vinca]

133. So Chelsea is saying we shouldn't bother trying?

I don't get Hillary's popularity among black people. She was by her husband's side, in agreement, when he signed the bills that ended up causing mass incarceration. (I say bills because the "welfare reform" he signed had to have caused people to commit crimes just to survive.) She's not her husband, of course, but if her solution is "it's not possible," why is anyone of color voting for her?

[EndElectoral]

135. We're #1 in incarceration. It's something we're good at. Chelsea sees that.

Nothing like playing on people's fears for votes.

[merkins]

138. Chelsea Clinton can pack a town hall in Cleveland?

God help us, where did we fail a a society?

[bigwillq]

139. What's worrying is the thought of another Clinton in the White House

Go away, Clintons. Far, far away.

[blackspade]

142. Worried? In what way?

[markpkessinger]

144. I seem to recall that in the last debate . . .

. . . her mother made a point to emphasize that there was very little difference between her and Bernie Sanders on the issue of criminal justice reform.

So, Chelsea, which is it?

[polly7]

146. Is she offering information on any policies adopted by her mother that would undo the damage of

her father's crime bill that made mass incarceration worse? http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/15/politics/bill-clinton-1994-crime-bill/

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/24/black-thinkers-bernie-sanders-studied-clintons-true-cost