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thesquanderer

(11,991 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:21 PM Feb 2016

"The Pragmatic Case for Bernie Sanders" (The Atlantic)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/the-pragmatic-case-for-bernie-sanders/462720/

On the pragmatics of electability, nearly every major national poll consistently shows Sanders equaling or bettering Clinton against all Republicans.
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Clinton’s most persistent attack—parroted by mainstream media—claims that Sanders’s agenda is perhaps laudable but unrealistic. Moderation is more effective, she claims. However, this is a misreading of American politics
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It is not pragmatic to hope that Clinton, by dint of her centrist leanings, can work with Congress on anything other than a centrist agenda—at best. To the extent that she gets things done with a Republican legislature, based on an electoral mandate of centrism, there is zero prospect of progressive reform on Wall Street, corporate accountability, wealth inequality, or campaign finance. In politics, if you demand a mile, you get a foot; demand a moderate inch, and at best, you get a centimeter.

On the other side of the ledger, history shows that political and social change emanate from persistent pressure—organizing and arguing for a more just world, not settling for what is deemed “realistic” before getting to the negotiating table. Remember when gay rights and gay marriage were “unrealistic”? Remember when voting rights, desegregation, and other basic justice were far from “pragmatic”? They became real through years of dedicated, principled, idealism—by insisting the unrealistic become real.
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Clinton’s other central campaign theme is her record of experience. As first lady, Clinton failed at health-care reform. She never pushed for single-payer health care...She also supported three of Bill Clinton’s signature measures, which all proved disastrous: welfare rollback, which unraveled safety-net supports for poor families, low-income women, and millions of working-class Americans; the omnibus crime bill with its three strikes and mandatory minimum sentencing, which contributed to a generation of long-term, largely African American inmates and felons; and NAFTA... In one undistinguished term as U.S. senator, Clinton opposed gay marriage, voted for the Iraq war, and supported the Patriot Act, among other positions. As secretary of state, while logging impressive global mileage, Clinton pushed for aggressive regime change in Libya, and she worked hard to expand corporate military contracts and fracking abroad. Whether the American public finds her record favorable or not, it is not one of progressive, forward-looking leadership.

Sanders has consistently demonstrated leadership, speaking out, introducing legislation, and laying the political groundwork on a wide array of issues, including: gay rights (long before they gained mainstream support), workers’ rights and union rights, universal single-payer health care, family and medical leave protections, and expansions of Social Security. On nearly every major issue—labor and economic justice, to the Iraq War and the Patriot Act, welfare reform, NAFTA, the Keystone XL pipeline, and the Transpacific Partnership—Sanders has taken clear consistent stands, while Clinton has waffled, backtracked, and leaned to the center.
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Clinton’s fatalistic pragmatism...insists that pushing for more is unrealistic and therefore capitulates before the fight even starts. On the other hand, it is entirely pragmatic to expect a President Bernie Sanders to fight hard for the justice and equality issues he has championed his entire political life—giving these ideas a chance, rather than no chance at all.
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"The Pragmatic Case for Bernie Sanders" (The Atlantic) (Original Post) thesquanderer Feb 2016 OP
Massive K&R..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
Yet another reason I love The Atlantic. K&R! n/t femmedem Feb 2016 #2
I have real hope for the first time in more than 30 years GeoWilliam750 Feb 2016 #3
Also posted at http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511238903 thesquanderer Feb 2016 #4
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #5
Did they run this by the senior editor, David (W speech writer) Frum? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #6
Second guessing motives is an endless game on all sides. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #7
I agree the points are "certainly reasonable". And it helps Sanders, which I like. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #8

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
6. Did they run this by the senior editor, David (W speech writer) Frum?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

Or does Frum, who is part of the old guard Republicans who is critical of the hard right /crazy tea bagger direction of his party and wants to go back to the more pragmatic, moderate (looking) GOP. ie...the more electable GOP, think that Hillary is exactly that candidate and does not want her to take away HIS party. And that with Sanders, at least he could differentiate his positions from. And thus, in his mind, could convince more to vote Republican.

thesquanderer

(11,991 posts)
7. Second guessing motives is an endless game on all sides.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 05:58 PM
Feb 2016

Either way, I think the article's points are certainly reasonable.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
8. I agree the points are "certainly reasonable". And it helps Sanders, which I like.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:04 PM
Feb 2016

I'm a glutton for motive guessing though. Could be that I just heard an interview of him on CBC radio, how great Reagan was etc... It was brought up that he was the senior editor of The Atlantic.

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