Hillary avoided the Community Forum on Black America

[azmom]

Last edited Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:13 PM - Edit history (1)

This is the third forum focusing on minority issues that she has missed.

She was not present at the Netroots Nation forum, the minority issues forum in January and now the community forum on black America this past Friday.

I can understand a candidate having scheduling problems, but this is a definite pattern of avoidance. Why is she avoiding us?



Edited: I apologize if my link offended anyone.

[hoosierlib]

1. Because she thinks she has the minority vote on lock down...

It's called hubris...

[azmom]

3. She's got a surprise coming to her.

[hoosierlib]

70. One would hope...

[Bonobo]

2. She relies on message control because she can't keep track of her own positions. nt

[CorporatistNation]

69. Yep, She Wants To Avoid F Ups and Skirt Having To Answer In DETAIL The Hard Questions!

Not too difficult to figure out... She is play'n it safe... SHE THINKS!!!!

[HassleCat]

4. Probably a good strategy.

She enjoys popularity among black voters, so she takes a risk by showing up and perhaps getting in an argument.

[azmom]

6. So fuck our questions?

Not cool, not cool at all.

[HassleCat]

19. Pretty much, yes

Politicians weigh the votes they'll gain against the votes they'll lose. If you're too loud. too opinionated, too black, too anything, the average politician will avoid talking with you in public. This is unfortunate because it means candidates stick with the echo chamber, spending most of their time with people who tell them how great they are.

[PyaarRevolution]

68. So that is why...

Obama wasn't the Stokely Carmichael, Malcolm X or even MLK level guy that I, a White man, wanted in the White House. Shame.

[farleftlib]

5. Not important

because she has built relationships, her attendance is not required. Besides her busy schedule includes 32 fundraisers during the month of Feb.

[azmom]

7. Her attendance is required if she

Wants our votes.

[farleftlib]

14. My guess is

A) she thinks she has the AA vote sewn up and no further action is required on her part.

or

B) she is afraid of tough questions based on her record so she will avoid those questions and let the chips fall where they may.

or

C) she will rely on MSM smears against Bernie Sanders' civil rights past and hope she looks better by comparison.

[azmom]

17. She's making a huge mistake.

[mikehiggins]

78. This is hardly new to the HRC campaign.

It has to do, IMHO, with being totally out of touch with what we call, people.

Kissinger and wealthy donators are more her style.

[daleanime]

40. D....

all the above.

[Dragonfli]

39. With who? anyone not rich or a politician? Seriously, I hear this all the time

but I always see her with rich white folks and the occasional minority politician. I am not being snarky, I just want to know.

[thereismore]

8. The third?! Wow she is really confident in that black support.

Black people are not stupid.

[azmom]

10. The firewall is going to burn her ass.

She's gotta show up. It's not much to ask.

[99th_Monkey]

9. Hillary assumes she has her "firewall" locked down, in the bag already. nt

[azmom]

15. Presumptious abuelita.

[amborin]

11. didn't she say she would only talk to "white people"?

[thereismore]

12. Oooh I didn't think she was serious about that! nt

[Shandris]

13. Religious differences. They won't worship her. n/t

[Empowerer]

16. You DO realize that all black people don't meet up in one place every night and invite candidates

to come speak to them and if the candidate doesn't accept the invitation, it doesn't mean they're dissing all black people? In fact, it's possible for candidates to interact with black people in more than one place - and sometimes even at the same time.

In fact, While Bernie was at this forum, Hillary was in South Carolina at a "Corridor of Opportunity" town hall focusing on racial disparities - with some of the black people who weren't at Bernie's event.
See? Black folks are everywhere!

"The third forum focusing on minority issues that she missed?" She's probably missed more than that - and so has Bernie - since forums focusing on minority issues occur all the time and no candidate attends all or even most of time.

[slipslidingaway]

18. Bernie Sanders on BET: Criminal Justice Reform (11/21/15)

Clinton did not attend.

[azmom]

20. I knew there were more. No one

Should give her a pass for not attending these forums.

Our issues hardly get spoken about in the debates . These forums are our opportunities to focus on our particular issues and ask questions of the candidates. Shame on her for not attending.

[slipslidingaway]

21. In the comments someone said she attended a fundraiser that day and that might be true ...

just goes to remind us to never, ever take something for granted!

[Empowerer]

24. She attended a Town Hall on opportunity for African Americans that afternoon

The Minneapolis event was not the only event in the country that day focused on minority issues.

[slipslidingaway]

26. Link to a video or transcript of the event? nt

[m-lekktor]

34. I looked at an event schedule archive for Hillary for the day of Bernies Minnesota thing

and didn't see anything about a townhall for AA's. Maybe I missed something. I hope somebody will correct me if i am wrong. I am too tired to keep searching and searching.

[Empowerer]

41. Here you are:

http://counton2.com/2016/02/12/presidential-candidates-visiting-south-carolina-on-friday/

Presidential candidates visiting South Carolina on Friday
News2

The following campaign events are happening on Friday, February 12 throughout South Carolina.
...
HILLARY CLINTON

On Friday, February 12, Hillary Clinton will be visiting Denmark, SC for a “Corridor of Opportunity” town hall to discuss the disparities facing South Carolinians and communities of color. Clinton will outline her plans to build on President Obama’s agenda. Bamberg County is in the I-95 corridor, which includes the state’s poorest rural school districts.
This event is open to the public. Event Information.

“Corridor of Opportunity Town Hall” with Hillary Clinton
Where: Denmark-Olar Elementary School located at 1459 Soloman Blatt Blvd in Denmark, SC 29042
When: 3:00 PM
Doors Open: 1:30 PM

[cui bono]

63. That's not the day in question.

Bernie Sanders on BET: Criminal Justice Reform (11/21/15) is the day that is being discussed.

.

[slipslidingaway]

42. Thank you, I have not thoroughly looked at what Hillary did that day in November and why she skipped

this forum, but figured someone else might know the details.

[Empowerer]

35. Here you go

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc2/watch/live-clinton-on-issues-surrounding-race-621922371668

http://thetandd.com/community/clinton-visits-denmark-vows-to-bring-era-of-opportunity/article_b68b505d-0f91-5937-8185-811656ba0130.html

[m-lekktor]

37. The first link doesn't work. The second link works! I was looking on the wrong day I was looking

on an events archive for the 13th

[Empowerer]

44. Fixed the MSNBC link

[m-lekktor]

45. that's fine!nt

[slipslidingaway]

38. First link page not found, second link is not from the date in November but two days ago ...

what was the reason for missing the BET forum back on 11/21/2015, that was the question?

[Empowerer]

47. I don't know why she didn't attend that event in November

But, as I've noted, it's silly and kind of insulting to expect every candidate to attend every black event since black people hold numerous events every day all across the country. Only someone so unfamiliar with he black community that they think the only important activities we have are those that are highly publicized by the MSM would voice such a criticism.

It is laughable to lament that a candidate "missed four minority forums!" as if all "minority forums" are command performances when, in reality, minorities host forums every day, whether you know about them or not and no candidate is going to attend them all.

It's especially amusing to see Sanders supporters lobbing this accusation against anyone considering that Sanders hasn't exactly been a fixture at many "forums focusing on minirity issues" until he started running for president a few months ago and needed black votes.

[slipslidingaway]

52. No, you threw links at me that were not relevant and now you are trying to equate any event,

at any time, as being equivalent to events during a presidential election.

So I ask again, where was Clinton that day when she missed an event by BET on criminal justice?

Only Sanders, O'Malley and Carson attended.

This was an important discussion on racial justice, where was Clinton and why did she not attend?

Was it a fundraising event that she attended instead?

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2015/11/13/bet-livestreaming-20-20-leaders-of-america-forum-featuring-ben-carson-bernie-sanders.html

[Truprogressive85]

22. Fear

she wont ever attend an event like that, because she afraid to meet real grassroots black progressive like MN forum that take no shit

She did not Bet criminal justice forum nor the black and brown forum in Iowa

She only meets only black people who are going to stroke her ego and give her praises(establishment, old gaurds). She wont meet the people that actually are the ground .

No one will ever convince me she is a progressive

[SheenaR]

23. Nothing to do with firewall

She absolutely cannot attend an event where she does not have some modicum of control. An event where the questions can be completely random and hard hitting has never been her thing. Never.

This to me is very evident as to why she avoids events like this.

[MisterP]

25. in the old politics, she's "the X candidate"--so she can do whatever to Xs

AAs, millennials, Vietnamese, it don't matter none

[Duckhunter935]

27. she is taking the black vote

For granted. It should not be but sadly many will still vote for her after being disrespected like this.

[Ed Suspicious]

28. Just remember who is there. That's the guy who will work for your vote or at least work to convince

you that meeting him where he is would be prudent and in your best interest. Either way he's got you on his mind so you know he isn't taking you for granted.

Just remember who shows up.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. This will not go well for her

and she will not even understand why.

[onecaliberal]

30. Guess she thinks she has the black vote in the bag and doesn't need to answer questions,

Or show up for them.

[oberliner]

31. The Right Scoop?

That's the website you are going to link to here?

[azmom]

33. Did she or did she not attend the minority issues forum?

That's the point of this OP. She has now missed four minority issues forum.

[cui bono]

56. You can edit out the link and your OP still stands.

Then they can't complain about the link and will have to deal with the facts.

.

[azmom]

80. Thank you. Even though the jury voted

To leave it, I decided to edit it out.

[oberliner]

66. The Right Scoop is a far RW pro-Ted Cruz website

Here are their suggested links:

Places of Interest
Ace
Bad Blue News
Bible Atlas
Caleb Howe
CNS News
Daily Caller
Drudge Report
Fox Nation
Hot Air
Instapundit
iOTWreport.com
Johnny Dollar's Place
Mark Levin
Michelle Malkin
PolitiBrew
Rescue Christians

[LuvLoogie]

76. The Revolution is highly invested in anti-Hillary artillery from the Right.

It is their serendipitous proxy war.

[loyalsister]

32. fourth

She also skipped the "Putting Families First" forum in Jan.

[jillan]

36. Um - she couldn't remember what her position was on minority issues today?

[Dragonfli]

48. The staff member that talks to blacks for her and tells her her positions was out sick that day,

Give her a break, most of her friends are rich white people and the occasional mass murderer (but he is German so not much help).
You can't ask her to risk her life by being in a room full of super-predators that refuse to heel. Are you trying to get her killed! They scare the crap out of her, she could die of a heart attack or at the very least suffer a severe panic attack.

She cares about PoC more than anybody else in the world but severe phobias that cause one to see a black kid and think "super-predator" has a handicap and can not be held accountable for such an unfortunate illness.

If she grew up like I did, where I did, she would not be afraid to attend, but billionaire white people give me the willies, I keep thinking they are going to set me loose on the grounds and hunt me down for sport or something so you won't catch me alone in a room with rich sociopathic predators so I feel her so should the rest of you! Stop being so insensitive to her phobias, phobias are real and nothing to dismiss and joke about.

[azmom]

50. That super predator stuff is unforgivable.

Who says stuff like that, and why?

[Beausoir]

43. More nonsensical Republican Talking Points.

[azmom]

46. Oh, please elaborate.

[Empowerer]

49. Why not criticize Sanders for missing the "forum on minority issues" that Hillary attended in SC?

Because that would be stupid. Just as stupid as attacking Hillary for not attending the event in Minnesota that was held at the same time.

Because black people have events all over the country and no one can be expected to attend all of them ...

[passiveporcupine]

51. It wasn't a forum

It was a small town hall meeting. She likes to be in control, and be the focus of the small groups she meets with. She would not have wanted Bernie there to share the limelight with her.

[cui bono]

53. Jury Results...

Juror #4 here. And btw... I went to the site and they seem to be mostly criticizing a lot of the Republican candidates based on the headlines, so I'm not sure that the alerter was correct about that. Still, info in the OP is correct.


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Hillary avoided the Community Forum on Black America
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ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Alerted by one_voice: The source used is a far right wing source. look at their blog roll, they call it places of interest. This article is over a month old there's no need to post from a right wing source. It's not breaking news. After all the uproar about sourcing and keep things above board recently can we please not use right wing sources on DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND? please consider a hide. thank you.

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[one_voice]

54. I'm the alerter..

it's a right wing site

here's their blog roll..

Places of Interest

Ace
Bad Blue News
Bible Atlas
Caleb Howe
CNS News
Daily Caller
Drudge Report
Fox Nation
Hot Air
Instapundit
iOTWreport.com
Johnny Dollar's Place
Mark Levin
Michelle Malkin
PolitiBrew
Rescue Christians


here's their fb page

https://www.facebook.com/trscoop

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It's a right wing shit hole.

the comments from this story:

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Avatar
NYCFiredog • a month ago

She was resting her damaged brain.

timerunnersc • a month ago

A progressive means communist / socialist event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

imerunnersc longsleeves • a month ago

Since the day the democrats controlled the US Congress, US Senate and the white house it's been a constant fight against tyranny for America, American's and our US Constitution.
But there is no surrender, only freedom and liberty, so we stand.
The enemy is here inside our borders and tonight you'll see the face of evil as he speaks on worldwide TV.
Thankfully their time left in power is very short.

Another headline

Feminazi icon Gloria Steinem apologizes for saying young women ignore Hillary to chase BOYS!

Gotta love that.

Here's one for ya...see if you like this one as much...


Bernie Sanders’ ‘FREE’ COLLEGE will cost $70 BILLION… who’ll pay for it?

Not surprisingly, the socialist solution for hipsters having to be baristas after earning a PhD in 14th century lesbian Belgian studies doesn’t make much sense.

Wow. $70 billion dollars doesn’t sound terribly free to me.

But when you’re 20 years old you don’t have to think about such crap as long as you get free stuff.

http://therightscoop.com/bernie-sanders-free-college-will-cost-70-billion-wholl-pay-for-it/

and another

Abortion-lovers’ brains are IMPLODING over what Bernie Sanders said about Planned Parenthood!!

For abortion-worshipping freaks of the far left, Planned Parenthood is like Muhammed – you just don’t criticize him. If you do, then you face this kinda of backlash:

Awww they’re so sad they almost stopped murdering babies for a few seconds to wipe a tear. Almost.

LOL!! As I have said many times before, I love exposing liberal-on-liberal crime because the mainstream media goes out of it’s way to damage Republicans this way. Why can’t we do the same to even it up?! Also it’s just plain fun….

http://therightscoop.com/abortion-lovers-brains-are-imploding-over-what-bernie-sanders-said-about-planned-parenthood/



I stand by my alert. I don't do it very often, but this...YUCK! You can have it if you want it.

[cui bono]

55. Thanks for the info. So, what about the OP is false and hideable then?

As far as I know, that's the reason for not wanting right wing sites used. The OP could have been posted without the link. What if the OP edits the link out?

.

[one_voice]

57. For as long as I've been a member of DU...

we've never been ok with right wing sites being used as sources. Why would we give them the traffic? I'm sure that information is available from mainstream sites. The story is dated Jan 9. So it's not like it's breaking news.

I've seen it over and over, a story posted and if it's a right wing site the OP is told about it and asked to either replace or delete, until recently.

My alert said nothing about the OP being false.

[cui bono]

58. So if the link were edited out you would agree with the OP then.

I suggested upthread the OP edits out the link.

.

[one_voice]

59. My comment wasn't about the content of the OP

but rather the source.

I'm not debating the OP. I didn't hide from my alert. I felt strongly about it.

I've proven my case about the source, it's right wing. That was my complaint.

Right wing sources have NEVER been acceptable on DU as long as I've been a member.

Now I'm done.

[cui bono]

60. That's why I was asking/clarifying. Not sure why you seem to want this to be a fight. n/t

[one_voice]

62. I think wires are crossed

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I don't want a fight. I would just like to maintain the standard of not using right wing sources.

There was a time where we all at least agreed on that.

[uponit7771]

67. +1

[Amimnoch]

77. So are you equally okay with the daily caller article attacking Sanders wife?

The one with her getting away with loan fraud? Nearly bankrupting a college?

Or are you okay with that kind of right wing garbage being posted here.. as long as it's factual?

I'm not.

[cali]

65. I stand with you. Don't drag right wing slime here.

[Bobbie Jo]

75. Wow, just pitiful

what gets dragged and dropped up in here.

This place used to have actual standards. Can't say I'm too impressed with many of the new registrants. I came here 10 years ago to get away from the RW nonsense. Now, it's splattered all over this site.

I hope the PTB are pleased with their "new and improved" membership.

A click is a click, I suppose...

[Hekate]

84. Wow. The DU community has so much to be so fucking proud of these days.

JURY: The use of "fucking" in a subject line is now well within community standards. You should be proud, is all I'm saying.

[mhatrw]

61. Why spend time with your minority firewall when you can spend time with that Kissinger fireball?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

64. "Why is she avoiding us?"

[Odin2005]

71. Too many "superpredators", there, obviously

[BklnDem75]

72. She was at a town hall in Denmark, South Carolina...

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/politics/2016/02/12/hillary-clinton-holds-rally-denmark/80313410/


Raking someone over the coals for attending one minority forum over another? That's why I avoid links to RW websites.

[SidDithers]

79. +1...nt

Sid

[azmom]

81. That was a town hall. I'm talking about forums

Where both candidates are present and available for questions. She received invitations and declined all four of them.

[Octafish]

73. What is her stance on REPARATIONS?

I'd like to hear her speak about reparations for those who have suffered from slavery and their descendants.

[olddots]

74. her photo op advisors decided against these candid gatherings

flags and crosses are important backdrops for the royal scam .

[cherokeeprogressive]

82. Hillary and her cavalry take for granted the minority vote is inevitably in her corner.

Too bad.

[George II]

83. She didn't "avoid" it, she had a more important meeting with minorities at the time.