Sanders criticism grows pointed at black community forum

[MrWendel]

MINNEAPOLIS – A warm, welcoming African-American crowd grew increasingly frustrated with Sen. Bernie Sanders on Friday evening, complaining that he’s too scared to talk about specifically black issues.
Sanders was here for “A Community Forum on Black America,” introduced by the local congressman, Rep. Keith Ellison, one of Sanders' only two endorsers in the House, But unlike many of the packed rallies that have greeted Sanders in other parts of the country, neither the folding chairs nor the bleachers in the gym here at Patrick Henry High School were full.

And the crowd and the panel grew lukewarm on Sanders, saying his focus on economic inequality looks past the entrenched problems they face as African-Americans.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-black-community-forum-219232#ixzz40BCCv899

[beam me up scottie]

1. Recycling day again?

[nc4bo]

7. Garbage day... it's always garbage day. nt

[beam me up scottie]

8. Gotta stir that compost pile! Can't let it get too cold.

[loyalsister]

18. It appears there is great love for that misleading headline

The quick scan of that title translates to "Sanders Blames Black Community" because we look for the important nouns and the verbs in headlines. It's a filter that propagandists count on. It's a way of repeating an implicit lie.

[beam me up scottie]

21. They've been using that tactic for months.

One even bragged about the fact that most people never read past the headline. Speaks volumes about them and their candidate and what they're willing to do to win.

[wyldwolf]

24. hysterical to read Bernie followers complain about recycling..

[beam me up scottie]

32. "Hysterical"?

[OilemFirchen]

33. It's been literally MINUTES since I've seen a new Photogate thread.

Most.Hilarious.Scandal.Ever.

[valerief]

51. When they have nothing else...

[wendylaroux]

2. here is some more on that forum.

http://www.startribune.com/sen-bernie-sanders-appears-in-north-minneapolis-at-forum/368674581/

[Mike__M]

9. The Star Tribune's reporter saw the same forum I watched on YouTube

Politico's reporter . . . I don't know

[wendylaroux]

14. I agree 100% nt

[azmom]

11. Thank you for that. Much more

balanced article.

[wendylaroux]

15. Quite welcome

[cali]

3. Lol. Funny, local news has a different. Hilly too scared to even show uo

and too arrogant.

[Mike__M]

4. Politico's failure

to recognize, or at least report, who Clyde Bellecourt is, disqualifies this story from consideration, imo.

[Vattel]

5. Comically bad hit piece

[azmom]

6. Were they this frustrated with Hillary?

[azmom]

13. Never mind. Just read she did not attend.

How do you feel about Hillary not even attending?

[nc4bo]

22. I thought you asked a wonderful open question.

But no.... she skipped out on that forum.

Reminds me of the net roots forum.

[azmom]

26. She skipped out on the minority issue forum too.

http://therightscoop.com/watch-organizers-at-minority-issue-forum-chant-where-is-clinton/

What the fuck is going on?

[nc4bo]

31. Pssst......You know or at least suspect.

But remember, caaaaaaaares.

Could at least have sent a Hallmark card.

[Empowerer]

69. She was attending a different forum on minority issues in SC at the time

[SidDithers]

10. DU rec for all kinds of reasons...nt

Sid

[litlbilly]

12. Love this trash can

[Duckhunter935]

16. how was Hillary received?

Do tell?

[thereismore]

19. She remains the pure one by default.

[thereismore]

17. Clinton wins this forum by not appearing.

[oasis]

35. Hill's got nothing to prove. The Clinton record speaks for itself.

Bernie's "once they get to know me " campaign is the one seeking familiarity.

[azmom]

37. She sure as hell does. She is taking POC

For granted. She needs to show up and answer our questions.

[oasis]

40. She was addressing another group at the time. She's busy

doing it her way.

[thereismore]

41. What group, enlighten us. nt

[azurnoir]

43. she was getting her campaigns palms greased

she couldn't even be bothered to show up and snarf down a piece of sweet potato pie lie she did in Detroit on her way to the money, but then again the AA community in the Twin Cities is quite small barely a demographic blip when the state is taken as a whole

[Empowerer]

70. Not true - she was attending a town hall on racial disparities in SC that day

[azmom]

64. Fuck that noise.

[mgmaggiemg]

38. agree

[JackRiddler]

20. I would more readily trust Foxnews than Politico to report on this.

[left-of-center2012]

23. Shouldn't this be in the Hillary group?

[mgmaggiemg]

25. great post

[azmom]

34. No, it's not. This is the third minority issues

Forum, that I know of, that she has skipped over.

Not good, not good at all.

[mgmaggiemg]

36. I don't want to put words in your mouth

but I assume you are meaning youth/education criminal justice reform issues?

[azmom]

39. Netroots, this black forum and the minority issues forum.

Here's an article on that last one.

http://therightscoop.com/watch-organizers-at-minority-issue-forum-chant-where-is-clinton/

[mgmaggiemg]

42. yeah there was this

Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:00 PM - Edit history (1)

thing about people thinking that Iowa's minority graphics were too small to make a difference..

.maybe she didn't want to appear with sanders and omalley...that's a possibility....it's pretty classic to avoid conflict with your competition right before a vote....


I saw the video of her meeting with black lives matters....while her tone was a bit rough her basic stance was I am going after the structural things....housing, health care education...

.you guys need to do the raising awareness part (which you are doing)..

.in other words she didn't just want it to be the wizard of oz thing...seeing if she can get more equality/funding on the housing education and health care. in congress..

local communities can organize themselves around what they need most.

...also she's been brave and come out against gun violence...specifically gun violence by the state toward minority communities....

she went into new hampshire on that btw even tho new hamphshire is the number one guns and ammo producing state in the nation ...bernie won't do it..

.so specifically I know she has decided to stand with mothers whose children have been victims of state gun violence and she is standing with loretta lynch while she prosecutes municipalities that are engaging in this state violence against minorities..


.because if you don't prosecute nothing will change.

.also she is standing with the victims of the ame massacre.

families/ mothers/parents whose children were victims of violence by the state..(i consider ame state violence...dylann roof did not have a background check....if he'd had one he would not have passed...this was the states fault)

.she's been making the connection for a while and has met with them all a while ago and they are behind her campaign because she has made this promise to support prosecution of state violence and also to pursue gun control..

.so there you go...those are her things really housing, education, health care and gun control and prosecuting state violence against minorities...she is there..

..I don't really think she is "leading" on the criminal justice reform because the republicans have decided to come out and be non-partisan about it and participate....so I think she sees that as an issue where she is now one of many not a standout for that.....

but I will give her kudo's for going to flint and speaking out about government accountability and I do think she thinks safe water is part of safe housing...that's why she went to flint...

.I am taking an educated guess that the reason she didn't go meet with minorities in Iowa...was to avoid competition and conflict right before a vote....and that as they say is politics.... that if she'd had an audience to herself it would be more to her liking...

this is pretty obvious in her campaign style....again politics....

[ebayfool]

48. Huh?

My glasses can't handle this. Sentence breaks, paragraphs, something - anything! - would make it more readable. Please!

It has to be read to be understood, yes?

[mgmaggiemg]

53. yes

i do tend to throw it out there casually. so you are asking me to edit it ok

[ebayfool]

54. TY! n/t

[azmom]

55. Agree. I can't get through it either.

[mgmaggiemg]

59. ok ebay fool

very roughly edited...just for you enjoy

[azmom]

63. You are giving her a pass because she is playing "politics"

But, as a POC, I can't do that. It's not politics to me. It is my life. My mother's life, my sisters life, my husband's life, my daughter's life. They matter and I matter.

She gets no pass from me. Hillary needs to attend our events and answer our questions. End of story.

[mgmaggiemg]

65. bernie plays politics....

you play politics...the internet, the media, the corporations the candidates...it's one big "trueman show" (jim carrey.0..the guy who begins to suspect his family/friends are actors and the life he is living is not real but part of a show for someone else's entertainment/profit/ benefit

if you feel overlooked you should contact her people and tell them that....or follow her schedule and see when she's going to be in your area...submit questions for answer....I do think there's more than one way to do it and it's a two way street....Cheers, maggie

[Eric J in MN]

27. Youtube video of the full Q & A.

Bernie Sanders is willing to face a tough audience and answer questions. He said he wants more federal investment in poor neighborhoods, and more small business loans.

[Nanjeanne]

28. I thought this was dissected on the day of. I know I watched it live

And sure didn't need politico reporter to tell me what I didn't see.

As I said before Bravo Sen Sanders for showing up and engaging in a real way with an audience that wasn't prepicked and questions that weren't prescreened. That's a leader.

[Arazi]

29. Conveniently leaves out the standing ovations

[NurseJackie]

30. Great post. Excellent story at link.

It looks like Bernie blew his chance.

[azurnoir]

44. this seems fever dream imaginings from edward-isaac-dovere whom I seriously doubt was there

in fact his puff piece seems based on recycled smear material or he figured it's plausible enough it was a small crowd how many of my readers were actually there

[Nanjeanne]

45. While pundits write about what they "think" happened - read what the actual audience members thought

http://www.attn.com/stories/5932/bernie-sanders-black-voters?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=internal

[azurnoir]

46. That should be a thread

[Nanjeanne]

47. It is - I posted it a few minutes ago

here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511233588

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. Thanks I prefer to read

what participants say of these forums. I have found that many a times people come into writing these pieces with a certain slant.

Mind you, reading hte Politico story also has it's value.

[Nanjeanne]

52. That's why I think this article is important - it was an audience that challenged Sanders and

It was good for Sanders to be challenged that way. Sharpens him and makes him think - and he won some votes at the same time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. exactly

this is important

[jfern]

50. Hillary avoids talking much about the issues at all

[Peregrine Took]

56. Deja vu all over again!!

I do believe I've seen this post before!!

[orpupilofnature57]

57. No It Doesn't, all his remedies will help AA as much if not more than anybody else . He won't use AA

issues to woo votes, he'll tell it like it is .

[craigmatic]

60. He needs to come out for reparations if he wants the vote. We just paid Israel $12 million and the

US didn't run one gas chamber in Germany. If you can promise universal healthcare, Bernie, you might as well promise reparations too. I hate to say it but he's acting like Hubert Humphrey. Either you're for full social justice or you're not.

[TheFarS1de]

61. What is Hillary's policy on reparations ?

...... I will await you answer .

[craigmatic]

62. Don't get my criticism twisted as if I support Hillary because I don't. She'll do less than him for

blacks. Bernie at best is neutral but Hillary and Bill actually hurt black people with those tough on crime laws in the 90's. I really don't expect her to have a reparation policy at all but I expect more from a socialist like Bernie.

[LWolf]

66. It sure did.

Here's What Black People Are Saying About Bernie Sanders

MICHAELA DAY, LOCAL ACTIVIST WITH JUSTICE4JAMAR AND BLACK LIVES MATTER

"His stance on racial justice, and justice for marginalized groups in the past, before he was campaigning, that's what actually does speak to me. I don't feel like he's just feeding us a line of complete B.S., because he hasn’t flip-flopped the way Hillary has. If you look at his stance 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago it's pretty much the same as today. [It's] as radical then as it is now, but it's sad that this is what they consider radical."

SHARE YOUR OPINION
Do You Think Bernie Sanders' Policies Will Help Black America?

YES (94%)

http://www.attn.com/stories/5932/bernie-sanders-black-voters?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=internal

[Iliyah]

67. Its making the rounds

K & R

[Gothmog]

68. Sanders is an one issue candidate

[uponit7771]

74. +1

[liberal_at_heart]

71. trash thread.

[Number23]

72. What the hell??

"This is a black forum,” Newby said, trying to cut Bellecourt off before Sanders quickly acknowledged Native Americans’ difficult history, and headed for the door to his next event to the tune of David Bowie’s “Starman.”

[uponit7771]

73. Would it be cynical to say he doesn't want to offend white people by talking about PoC issues? tia